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Old 01-02-2015, 08:56 AM   #1
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IMS bearing removal without special tool??

Hi, I am in the process of replacing my IMS bearing with a new one from LN. In doing research I have not come across any info on anyone removing the bearing without the special tool from LN.. I was curious if anyone has had any success in removal WITHOUT the special tool, and if so. How did you go about removal?

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Old 01-02-2015, 09:16 AM   #2
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Hi,

just build your own special tool.

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Old 01-02-2015, 09:26 AM   #3
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@small block

You wouldn't happen to have a step by step procedure of that fabrication would you? haha
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Hi, I am in the process of replacing my IMS bearing with a new one from LN. In doing research I have not come across any info on anyone removing the bearing without the special tool from LN.. I was curious if anyone has had any success in removal WITHOUT the special tool, and if so. How did you go about removal?

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It is not just a matter of getting the old bearing out, you also have to get the new one in without killing it. As some have actually gotten themselves in trouble using the correct tools but not following the correct procedure's, you would be well advised to get both the tools and instructions and do it correctly. You can always resell the tools later.
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I remember a few years ago when a DIY wrench tried to replace the IMS with out the tools or procedure. He meticulously documented as he FUBAR'd his motor. It was like watching a slow-motion train wreck.

Clue: Get the tools and if you don't have the knowhow or talent, hire it. Once the trans is out of the way it is maybe 2 hrs labor for a skilled tech.
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Old 01-03-2015, 01:06 PM   #6
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I didn't use the special tool, I just removed my engine took it apart and sent the IMS to LN and they pinned and installed a triple row bearing. No special tool required!! haaaaaa!
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Old 01-03-2015, 01:18 PM   #7
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Break down and buy the tool. I have done the R & R, to try to save a few bucks (and I'm the world's original cheap arse) would be pound wise penny foolish, Good Luck......
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I'd suggest getting the removal and installation tool. I did make my own tools for a single row bearing and they were barely adequate with the engine out of the car. I managed to damage the first replacement bearing shield installing it due to inadequate tooling and had to replace it. Not a big deal with the engine out, but if the engine was in the car it might have been a nightmare. The removal tool is the all thread / PVC / moulding blade combo (How's that for cheap!). The hook on the end is a threaded rod connector modified with an angle grinder and a torch to fit under the IMS nut.
This was barely adequate to pull a single row bearing, it is doubtful it would work for a double row bearing. The gray rings are what is left od a PVC fitting used for installation, and as stated earlier, I dinged the shield with it on the first bearing. Anybody guess what the bent screwdriver is for?

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Old 01-03-2015, 02:50 PM   #9
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I think the relevant question is, given the relatively low cost of the tooling, why exactly don't you want to buy the proper tools?
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I think the relevant question is, given the relatively low cost of the tooling, why exactly don't you want to buy the proper tools?
There's always a sense of achievement (and scratching the cheap bone at the same time). That's how I typically get myself into trouble.
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:32 PM   #11
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I didn't use the special tool, I just removed my engine took it apart and sent the IMS to LN and they pinned and installed a triple row bearing. No special tool required!! haaaaaa!
How much did LN charge you to pin your shaft and install that three row bearing?

To the OP, on Wayne's site he shows use of a gear puller to remove the bearing. The tools sure do make it an easy job.
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Actually I didn't mean you James. I've seen enough of your posts to know that this kind of thing is well within your abilities. If you were my next door neighbor I'd be pestering you for help all the time (be glad you're not!). I asked the question to learn a bit more about the OP as, given that he only has 2 posts so far, we don't know yet whether he is a kick-azz home wrench that could actually pull this off, or just another guy that reads too many magazines.
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Old 01-04-2015, 09:28 AM   #13
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Find someone to rent or borrow the tool from if you can not see it being advantageous to buy one. Or buy one and just resell on the forum at a lessor price once you are done.

Oh and if you do find someone to borrow the tool off of, do not keep the tool for extended periods thinking its no big deal. It the reason peeople do not loan tools out.

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Old 01-11-2015, 08:17 PM   #14
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**************************************** rents out tools for the R/R as I was looking for a reasonable solution. Think they charge $75 with core charge of $200. I assume you get back the 200 when you return the tools. Just purchased my 1st S model and thought of doing IMS but decided to put off till clutch time.
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I sold mine on eBay for what I paid to purchase it. Consider the shipping a 'rental fee' and be done with it.
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I have to imagine that any chance of a claim, should there be a part or engine failure, must go right out the window when you admit to having deliberately refused usage of the required tools.
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Old 01-12-2015, 07:37 AM   #17
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Just curious as to whether or not it had been done before. Completed new rms and Ims install along with new flywheel, clutch and pressure plate that will be going on today..



Also check out the old clutch.

Haven't driven the car yet, it needed a new clutch upon purchase.
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Not sure why you're in there. That clutch has at least another 20 yards in it.
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Not sure why you're in there. That clutch has at least another 20 yards in it.
sorry Flaps, you are wrong

At least 25 yards, especially if coasting downhill
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That had to be chattering like crazy.

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