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Old 03-01-2006, 03:53 PM   #1
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Question about pricing on 2005 leftovers

A local dealer has a new 2005 Boxster S available. It's sticker price is listed at $64,045. What kind of discounting can I expect on this car? Also, the car comes with the following options:
692 - Remote CD Changer (6 Disc)
P15 - Power Seat Package
P74 - Bi-Xenon Headlamp Package
680 - Bose Surround Sound System
M6Z - Floor Mats Interior Color
342 - Heated Front Seats
C02 - U.S. Standard/Emissions
446 - Wheel Caps with Colored Crest
PPB - Preferred Package Plus
982 - Supple Leather Front and Rear
551 - Porsche Windstop (Deflector)
403 - 19" Carrera S Wheel
P12 - Self-Dim Mirrors & Rain Sensor
Are there any other options on 2005 models that are must haves?
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Old 03-01-2006, 04:05 PM   #2
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You should be able to buy this car for 18-20% off MSRP including the $795 for delivery.

So a good deal would be ($64,045 assuming delivery is in this price) $52,517-$51,236.

Good luck!

Must have options, IMHO, would include heated seats, Bose w/windstop. Nice to have Bi-Xenon. I think power seats ($1,550) and climate control ($550) are a waste of money.

Your car looks very nicely equiped!
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Old 03-01-2006, 04:32 PM   #3
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Are there any other options on 2005 models that are must haves?
Thanks.

Be sure to inquire about the "getaway" option 495b.

It includes a steering wheel mounted red button that when pushed, releases oil behind the rear bumper to the roadway. Evidently thier standard on the Batmobile, and General Lee, just on the Boxster it's an option.

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Old 03-02-2006, 09:46 AM   #4
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I would evaluate it this way:

PPB is a package that encompasses the following for @ $5,000.00:
446 - Wheel Caps with Colored Crest
P12 - Self-Dim Mirrors & Rain Sensor
680 - Bose Surround Sound System
P74 - Bi-Xenon Headlamp Package
342 - Heated Front Seats
M6Z - Floor Mats Interior Color
551 - Porsche Windstop (Deflector)

C02 - U.S. Standard/Emissions - Obviously not even an option

In my opinion the following options are needlessly running up your price. Porsche options aren't generally easy to install/remove after build but I think you're in a position where you can more easily dictate terms on a car the dealer would like to unload:

692 - Remote CD Changer (6 Disc)
Do you actually listen to CDs? From personal experience I've found all OEM CD changers to be overpriced and not reliable. Plan on replacing this in three years with a new one (hopefully under warranty), if we're even listening to CDs in three years. If the dealer won't steeply discount for this option I'd have the dealer remove this. (Saving $650.00).

P15 - Power Seat Package - Despite limited adjustment capability I thinkthat you won't have a problem finding a good seating position with the standard adjustment.

982 - Supple Leather Front and Rear
Front and rear of what? the seats? Seats already have supple leather on the front, supple leather on the back adds llittle value and is likely to wear worse.

403 - 19" Carrera S Wheel
Unless you love this wheel pattern, you're getting yourself into a heavier wheel that's tougher to find and more expensive to replace the tires for, may compromise ride quality, and look very similar to the standard S wheels. One boarder with this wheel has posted about getting out of them. If the dealer won't steeply discount the price of these wheels, I'd have them swap these out with 18s from another S. (Saving $1,550)

I'd push for this deal at least
53000 MSRP
Less ten percent or so for model year.
48,000
+ 5000 for the PPB and other options.

$53000.

As far as your original question, from what I've heard, PASM adds alot of value.
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When Pioneer was closing out their last two 2005 models they had them for about $5000 to $7000 off sticker price.
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the key -- let the dealer know in no uncertain terms that this model is lacking options you want and has many options you don't want and don't need "after doing some research" -- make up a list of both what you want and don't want -- emphasis on "make it up" (out of whole cloth -- i.e. lie where applicable; he would lie about the benefits (exaggerate) of various options to make the sale at his price, imho) -- let the dealer know you don't REALLY want this car -- but will "settle" for it at the right price -- then dispassionately and relentlessly aim for the prices the others have thoughtfully listed above -- you are doing him a favor taking this interest-churning machine off their lot -- if you are seen as a motivated buyer you won't get near those prices -- save any and all outward displays of lust until after you sign -- and be prepared to walk away; the first step out the door might get you that price -- good luck! you will love this car or one like it in the end!

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Old 03-02-2006, 05:38 PM   #7
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the key -- let the dealer know in no uncertain terms that this model is lacking options you want and has many options you don't want and don't need "after doing some research" -- make up a list of both what you want and don't want (out of whole cloth -- i.e. lie where applicable; he would lie about the benefits (exaggerate) to make the sale at his price, imho) -- let the dealer know you don't REALLY want this car -- but will "settle" for it at the right price -- then dispassionately and relentlessly aim for the prices the others have thoughtfully listed above -- if you are seen as a motivated buyer you won't get them -- save any and all outward displays of lust until after you sign -- and be prepared to walk away; the first step out the door might get you that price -- good luck! you will love this car in the end!

Good advice bhduxbery. Having "walking power" is a strong negotiating tool. One other thing to mention to this dealer, is that there are a lot of 2005's in the east coast (do a search on Porsch's web site, and you'll see) and that you are willing to buy a different left-over, even it it is out of state.
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