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Old 05-11-2014, 07:59 AM   #1
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Thanks for the advice guys -it has helped decide to just rebuild the old motor- assuming the damage is limited.
When I showed the oil pan to a local Porsche expert he proclaimed it was debris from a failed IMS. "But it has an LN IMS -fitted less than1 year ago",I whined. He was undeterred by the fact. I asked why a failing IMS would release non magnetic phosphor bronze-like swarf . He breezily suggested I have it flat-bedded to him. I didn't ,I just came here instead.Yes ,I am still looking for a Porsche engine rebuilder in Pasadena/S.California.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:04 AM   #2
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Find a used motor and install it, it's not hard.

Rebuilding yours will cost way too much.

Or part the car and walk away.
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Yes ,I am still looking for a Porsche engine rebuilder in Pasadena/S.California.
contact BYProdriver as he is in socal maybe he can help you.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:02 PM   #4
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Thanks for the advice guys -it has helped decide to just rebuild the old motor- assuming the damage is limited.
When I showed the oil pan to a local Porsche expert he proclaimed it was debris from a failed IMS. "But it has an LN IMS -fitted less than1 year ago",I whined. He was undeterred by the fact. I asked why a failing IMS would release non magnetic phosphor bronze-like swarf . He breezily suggested I have it flat-bedded to him. I didn't ,I just came here instead.Yes ,I am still looking for a Porsche engine rebuilder in Pasadena/S.California.
Potentially the failing IMSB generated debris that was suspended in the oil. At start up the factory oil filtration system bypasses a huge amount of oil. If that oil has debris suspended in it, then it is delivered to the main and rod bearing. These have an epidermis layer of copper which will appear as bronze in many instances..

So what you could have been seeing was secondary, collateral damage that was created by an underlying condition. Collateral damage is what takes these engines out.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:40 AM   #5
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Fortunately the original IMS was perfect ( the P.O. Gave it to me with your tool). Your new ceramic IMS is also perfect.The P.O. fitted your spin on filter and a magnetic drain plug .The filter caught a lot of the rod bearing(?) debris. So I am hoping the collateral damage is minor enough to allow a rebuild.
I am sooo glad the P.O. fitted your filter conversion!
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:47 AM   #6
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Here is a photo of the inside of Jake's filter can opened up for inspection. The solid bits are soft bearing flakes/debris. At the bottom the 'caramel swirl' in the oil is just fine gold-like particles suspended in the oil.
The drain plug had a big pile of black sludge on it that I speculate was moly of some form.
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