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Old 01-23-2006, 05:19 PM   #1
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Wow, short romance

Man, after the shortest flirtation in my life with a notion of a car, I think you've all veered me off this 99 w/43k on it. It sounds like a deal, 16,800 asking, dark blue on camel, silver 5sp console, xenons and not much else and owned by a Porsche employee(didn't say what he did there), the rms and other issues may have me looking at Bimmers again.

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Old 01-23-2006, 06:35 PM   #2
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Old 01-23-2006, 06:50 PM   #3
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yeah, the 97 M3 was nice but I had no passion for it-lots of respect though.
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Old 01-24-2006, 04:34 AM   #4
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Both BMW ///M and Porsche are very nice cars. You pick the one you choose. Eitherway you have a fine, spireted drivers car.

I couldn't decide so I have a BoxsterS and an e30 M3.

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Old 01-24-2006, 04:46 AM   #5
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Asking $16,800? Sounds cheap to me. 16k isnt anything for a car these days. So you may or may not have to spend a little money on an RMS issue, big deal at that price. Is the car beat up? My 99 is perfect had 41k and I paid $20,900. Only thing I dont like about mine is it draws too much attention.
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Looked clean at night but will se it again today at the Porsche dealer. Odd the dealer doesn't sell it for him for few $$.

The guy said the carfax was clean but he said he noticed some paitwork on the nose.
My M3 was sideswiped before I bought it(it was disclosed) but carfax didn't show it for 2 years.
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Markk, what does the e30 designation mean?

And, is that an M3 in the opening chase scene sequence in The Transporter?
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My experience with ALL BMWs (owned a '78 320i 5spd.) - Very Efficient - Coldly Efficient - Boringly Efficient - Absolutely NO SOUL! They are Great Cars, but I would Never Own another one...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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Markk, what does the e30 designation mean?

And, is that an M3 in the opening chase scene sequence in The Transporter?
It's the 1st gen M3, 88-90ish. The most popular was the e36, 95-99
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Hi,My experience with ALL BMWs (owned a '78 320i 5spd.) - Very Efficient - Coldly Efficient - Boringly Efficient - Absolutely NO SOUL! They are Great Cars, but I would Never Own another one...
Sorry but I must disagree. I owned a 328Ci (e46 which is the body model) and it was one of the most enjoyable and practicle cars that I ever owned. It was a blast to drive, held 4 adults, and could carry stuff I bought at home depot back home. I replaced it with an Audi A6 because we needed a larger 4 door (wife's orders). To this day I am sorry I didn't go with a 5 series BMW.

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"Markk, what does the e30 designation mean?

And, is that an M3 in the opening chase scene sequence in The Transporter?"



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Well, I'm not Mark - but e30 refers to the 3-series body from 1983 - 91. The e30 m3 was the first m3, based on the 1986 model. The car gets amazing power out of an inline 4 cylinder engine.

(2.3l-16v I4) - 143kW/195bhp 0-60 mph - 6.9 s. Top Speed: 140 mph
(2.5l-16v I4) - 175kW/238bhp 0-60 mph - 6.2 s. Top Speed: 150 mph

And no, in the Transporter, that's a euro-spec (735i manual tranny) 7 series (e38 - 1995-2001).
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Sorry but I must disagree. I owned a 328Ci (e46 which is the body model) and it was one of the most enjoyable and practicle cars that I ever owned. It was a blast to drive, held 4 adults, and could carry stuff I bought at home depot back home. I replaced it with an Audi A6 because we needed a larger 4 door (wife's orders). To this day I am sorry I didn't go with a 5 series BMW.

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I don't think we disagree at all, at least from what you've written. As I said, they are great Cars, cannot fault their performance, reliability etc., in the least. What I am saying is that they are devoid of eliciting any kind of Visceral Response from the Driver. Perhaps it is because they are so predictable, I don't know...

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Jeez, don't give up on the Box. Go for it. And offer him a couple thousand extra if the price is too cheap.
We need to keep those prices up!.
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My experience with ALL BMWs (owned a '78 320i 5spd.) - Very Efficient - Coldly Efficient - Boringly Efficient - Absolutely NO SOUL! They are Great Cars, but I would Never Own another one...

I think the entire BMW line are all great cars. Don't really understand what you mean by soul but a M3 ( e46 ) is a pretty good track car. Any M car for that matter is a pretty serious performance car.

They are much better daily drivers, much higher amenities, and fit & finish is much beyond a boxster ( IMHO ).

I currently have a 02 330Ci with 68k of absolute trouble free miles. Still love the car.

I am patiently waiting for the e90 M3.
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If at least they knew definitively what caused it, it wouldn't be so anxiety provoking. Out of balance crank, defective block, poor seating of the seal, etc..

Then a failure would be sufficient reason to fix the problem, and maybe install a 3.4L upgrade while you're at it. lol

The old harley shovel head and evo motors had a tendency to "blow by" oil(puke) out their breathers at high rpm's. It was messy. You'd come back from a hard run with oil splashed all over your nice shiny chrome. The "fix" was simple. Install a rubber hose off the breather so it would direct the puked oil harmlessly down underneath the bike. If you were eco friendly you might be inclined to put a small filter at the end of the hose to "catch" the oil. And so everyone lived with and loved that motor. Happily ever after.

Jeffn, if you get a RMS leak, it'll suck. If, you get one. If. You'll still love the
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I have a E46 sedan right now as a daily drive.

Very very nice car for what it is!

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Currently there are 5 generations of the BMW 3-series. From old to new e21, e30, e36, e46 and the newest / current model e90.

e21 series does not have a M3 model

e30 M3 was the "original" M3 developped for homologation in the DTM end eightees. 4-cylinders 2.3l inline engine producing around 200 bhp (special models go up to 215 and even 240 with a 2.5L engine for the EVO-3 / Sportevo model)

e36 M3 was the BMW Motorsport version of the e36 M3. Great car, no racing heritage. Two versions, normal 3.0 286bhp and evo 3.2 321bhp. Bothl inline 6 cylinder engines.

e46 M3 is the current BMW Motorsport version of 3-series, still based on the now absolete e46 generation. Features a 3.2l 6-cylinder inline engine producing 343bhp. Special CSL version features some more bhp (350+)

As of today there is not yet an M3 version of the current e90 3-series generation. It is expected end 2006 or beginning 2007 I think. Features a V8-cylinder engine with about 400bhp.

Some think the e30 M3 is the ultimate sportscar/M3, especially the last evo version (evo3 / sportevo). If you find one expect to pay 40/50k. Outoff all M3's the e30 generation was the only one specifically designed for DTM homologation. I disagree. They are all great driver cars. Although with all car generations younger cars tend to be much heavier which affect handling.

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http://www.bmwheritage.com/pages/models_e30.html

Boy, I love to talk about these cars ;-)


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