IMS Failure is not a Myth.

[thstone]

^ I agree with you completely. This has been discussed to death and no one really knows the numbers except Porsche and they aren't talking.

But I'd also caution about trusting the company that created the problem in the first place and has ignored it since then. Always remember that your service writer's paycheck has "Porsche" written at the top.

[KevinH1990]

Originally Posted by thstone

^ I agree with you completely. This has been discussed to death and no one really knows the numbers except Porsche and they aren't talking.

What do you think Porsche knows? I think they have good data on cars repaired under warranty or when they gave a "good will" adjustment on repair cost to the owner. They may have some limited data on cars that failed out of warranty, but I doubt they spend a lot of time or money worrying about it. So, perhaps they could extrapolate a failure rate from the data they have, but I doubt they have really good data on cars like mine.

Moreover, the failure mode and rate may be affected by the age of the cars. My car is 12 years old now. I'm not the first owner and I usually work on it myself or take it to an independent. Other than hoping I may one day buy a new Porsche, I doubt their accountants and MBA's can make a business case for chucking $10-15k at me to replace my engine if it were to fail.

[NoGaBiker]

Originally Posted by thstone

^ I agree with you completely. This has been discussed to death and no one really knows the numbers except Porsche and they aren't talking.

But I'd also caution about trusting the company that created the problem in the first place and has ignored it since then. Always remember that your service writer's paycheck has "Porsche" written at the top.

Thanks for the agreement, but as to the last part, his paycheck actually says "Jim Ellis Automotive Group" at the top -- I know because Jim is a neighbor, and he owns over a dozen dealerships covering 11 brands, of which Porsche is probably the smallest by an order of magnitude. I am sure that if Ellis was enticing their service writers to outright lie, it would be for the purpose of encouraging unnecessary expensive repairs, not for the purpose of discouraging necessary expensive repairs.