Boxster S vs Air-cooled 911?

[Lil bastard]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

AWD cars don't suffer from torque steer, even when it's a 50/50 split system. It's a FWD phenomenon. I understand that you need the Bosch computer system to bleed the brakes in the 964 C4.

Well, you do need the Bosch 'hammer' to actuate the AWD valves, or something similar. I have a mechanic friend who has a smart phone app that will do the same thing.

But you can actually just bleed the brakes and clutch alone using just a pressure bleeder, if done properly.

There is also a workaround by jumping a couple of connectors which will open the valves.

But, this isn't too unusual... lots of cars today w/ ABS cannot be properly bled without actuating the ABS valves from an outside source. Jaguars and BMWs for instance, even the later Boxsters from my understanding.

The hydraulic system is more complex than many cars, but much less so than some others, such as Citroens or some MBs and Maybachs - the old Mercedes 600 used hydraulics for everything, incl. the power windows - waay more complex than anything on the 964.

Cheers!

[Flavor 987S]

Having both a 2006 Boxster S and a 1997 993 Twin Turbo I can tell you the cars are Worlds apart in some areas and very similar in others. Both are stunning and very enjoyable to own and drive. Best of both worlds. That's why I have both.

[stephen wilson]

This which is better, debate always seems to come up, and IMO it's fairly pointless, unless you just enjoy the banter. It's entirely personal preference. To use the Mustang example, some love the 60's cars (me), and some love the modern version, there is no right or wrong. Sorry for the side-track, carry on!

[maj75]

That's why I did not ask which one is "better." I was looking for perspective from a Boxster Board members as to whether I was crazy to want a 911sc over the Boxster S I own, given that I would drive it 100 miles a day in South Florida heat. I am looking for different opinion and thanks for the opinions posted so far

[mts]

Originally Posted by maj75

That's why I did not ask which one is "better." I was looking for perspective from a Boxster Board members as to whether I was crazy to want a 911sc over the Boxster S I own, given that I would drive it 100 miles a day in South Florida heat. I am looking for different opinion and thanks for the opinions posted so far

Having just sold a nice Boxster S in favor of an air cooled 911, I would hands down take the Boxster S given your circumstances. I just don't see the 911 being as good in the South Florida heat. The only area I can think of where the 911 wins given your situation is if you are a tall person and are a little cramped in the Boxster. If that's the case, the extra leg room on the 911 could be a big deal given that much driving. Otherwise keep the Boxster S.

My 1/2 cent.

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by mts

Having just sold a nice Boxster S in favor of an air cooled 911, I would hands down take the Boxster S given your circumstances. I just don't see the 911 being as good in the South Florida heat. The only area I can think of where the 911 wins given your situation is if you are a tall person and are a little cramped in the Boxster. If that's the case, the extra leg room on the 911 could be a big deal given that much driving. Otherwise keep the Boxster S.

My 1/2 cent.

I'm 6'2" and fit great into both cars. But, the 993 is significantly smaller than the 987. The "smallness" and "intimacy" of the older aircooled 911's is very charming. Combined with the sunroof, and the windows down, it is about as close as you can be to a convertible without the actual drop-top.

[Pat]

FWIW, I think the 986 has more headroom than any 911 of the same or earlier year.

[Chuck W.]

Great comments. I have both a Boxster and 993. They are very different cars and both very good. IMHO, the Boxster is a better daily driver.

[ovrTHhill]

Came late to this party. To have a cool A/C in an SC, I highly recommend converting the York compressor to a modern rotary compressor. Next, add a radiator to the front oil cooler trombone, or rather, toss the trombone and install a full radiator with a supplemental cooling fan that operates when the A/C is operational. These little things make a big difference. Also, R-12 is a more efficient refrigerant than what is required by the EPA change to a more Ozone friendly material. A properly maintained 911SC is a thing of beauty. As for the quip about the timing chain rails and the pressure valve that keeps them taught, well, my experience is that that beautiful wine comes from the chains rolling across the rails. Our 80 911SC has been in the family for the past 26 years and is the least expensive vehicle we have ever owned. The pleasures in owning a 911 are in the eyes/ears of the beholder. Find your passion and let the rest have theirs.