Dont know what to do.. New Car? ZO6, 996? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

funlovinguy24 · 07-26-2011, 09:25 AM

So I've been thinking my 99 pale yellow Boxster is under powered. And at 201 HP i am sure it is. It only has 67k miles on it but i have been thinking i need something with more ZIP. I have been looking at the later C5 ZO6 the 405hp models. Great power, cheap...probably in both respects and not super heavy... in the 3100 range. Or perhaps and early 2000's 996 Carrera. Although less power, the quality and resale will certainly be higher than the GM. But what i really want is just a swapped 3.6 or larger more HP motor in my boxster lol. It is the most fun thing to drive ever! Super lightweight, mid engine, great quality! What more can you ask for!
Unfortunately i think this option would end up being the most expensive. I also cant really transport anything with my Boxster, such things as kayaks, surfboards, standup paddle boards, or even my road bike. I dont think the Z06 has any kind of rack, but it has a solid top, and must! I know the Carrera has roof rack holes that flip over which is great, superb german engineering as always!

What to do!

Topless · 07-26-2011, 10:37 AM

You need two cars... A Boxster and a Subie outback. Kayaks, bikes and surfboards don't belong on sports cars (ask me how I know).

blue2000s · 07-26-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Topless

You need two cars... A Boxster and a Subie outback. Kayaks, bikes and surfboards don't belong on sports cars (ask me how I know).

That's what I do, except my Subie is a WRX because I need to keep it sporty!

waynes986 · 07-26-2011, 11:14 AM

99-01 996s with average mileage (65-75k) will probably run you at least $21-23 depending on year and options. An 02-04 will probably run $25-28 with similar mileage. Z06 before the 05 change will probably fun in the high 18s up to $24k... Last year was a good time to pick up an early 996 as they could be had for a great price (under $18k) but the prices have gone up a bit this year... You could always sell the 2.5 for an S..

funlovinguy24 · 07-26-2011, 11:23 AM

How do you know

But seriously, id like to hear you elaborate

Well lets see, i have known 2 cars would be better, however, 2 cars, 2 payments, 2 insurances...things add up very quickly

1 roof rack and seems much cheaper

I have noticed the prices on the Z and the 996 are going up

vitaminC · 07-26-2011, 11:39 AM

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/box_roof_transport/box_roof_transport_page1.htm

Overdrive · 07-26-2011, 12:08 PM

I'm with VitaminC, I think he gave you your answer right there. You're not going to find much more storage in the same generation 996, as they're the same from the doors forward as a Boxster, and clearly are lacking a rear trunk for obvious reasons. While you may end up with more space in the back of a C5 Z06, I doubt it's by much when you total up both the Boxster's trunks. You may just have to get creative and sometimes selective with what you do store in your trunks. I noticed you didn't mention golf clubs, so I'm not going to bother making any points on that, as your idea of sports seems to be more along the lines of actual activity. (No offense to any avid golfers)

None of the three cars really screams the utuility you're looking to achieve, so I would say in that aspect, enjoy what you have, not that you'll be trying to flick the car around bends with a kayak up top (at least I hope not).

Now regarding power, from the prices you're likely to pay to get a 996 or Z06, I would imagine you should be able to get yourself an engine swap done for nearly the same, if not less, in the end. Others with more experience or knowledge in the matter would have to confirm/deny this, but I can't imagine you'd be paying $24k in the end to swap to something like a 3.4. Try getting in touch with Jake Raby of Flat 6 Innovations. He's right across the street from you in Georgia, and that's his bread and butter. :dance:

blue2000s · 07-26-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdrive

Now regarding power, from the prices you're likely to pay to get a 996 or Z06, I would imagine you should be able to get yourself an engine swap done for nearly the same, if not less, in the end. Others with more experience or knowledge in the matter would have to confirm/deny this, but I can't imagine you'd be paying $24k in the end to swap to something like a 3.4. Try getting in touch with Jake Raby of Flat 6 Innovations. He's right across the street from you in Georgia, and that's his bread and butter. :dance:

That's assuming he gets nearly nothing for his car when he sells it.

Overdrive · 07-26-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blue2000s

That's assuming he gets nearly nothing for his car when he sells it.

Touché, sir.

ppbon · 07-27-2011, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by funlovinguy24

So I've been thinking my 99 pale yellow Boxster is under powered. And at 201 HP i am sure it is. It only has 67k miles on it but i have been thinking i need something with more ZIP. I have been looking at the later C5 ZO6 the 405hp models. Great power, cheap...probably in both respects and not super heavy... in the 3100 range. Or perhaps and early 2000's 996 Carrera. Although less power, the quality and resale will certainly be higher than the GM. But what i really want is just a swapped 3.6 or larger more HP motor in my boxster lol. It is the most fun thing to drive ever! Super lightweight, mid engine, great quality! What more can you ask for!
Unfortunately i think this option would end up being the most expensive. I also cant really transport anything with my Boxster, such things as kayaks, surfboards, standup paddle boards, or even my road bike. I dont think the Z06 has any kind of rack, but it has a solid top, and must! I know the Carrera has roof rack holes that flip over which is great, superb german engineering as always!

What to do!

... directly at Pedro@PedrosGarage.com.
I can help you with both things (cargo transportation and more power) and can save you a ton of money.
Happy Boxstering,
Pedro

BYprodriver · 07-27-2011, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by funlovinguy24

So I've been thinking my 99 pale yellow Boxster is under powered. And at 201 HP i am sure it is. It only has 67k miles on it but i have been thinking i need something with more ZIP. I have been looking at the later C5 ZO6 the 405hp models. Great power, cheap...probably in both respects and not super heavy... in the 3100 range. Or perhaps and early 2000's 996 Carrera. Although less power, the quality and resale will certainly be higher than the GM. But what i really want is just a swapped 3.6 or larger more HP motor in my boxster lol. It is the most fun thing to drive ever! Super lightweight, mid engine, great quality! What more can you ask for!
Unfortunately i think this option would end up being the most expensive. I also cant really transport anything with my Boxster, such things as kayaks, surfboards, standup paddle boards, or even my road bike. I dont think the Z06 has any kind of rack, but it has a solid top, and must! I know the Carrera has roof rack holes that flip over which is great, superb german engineering as always!

What to do!

Don't compromise, have a 3.4-3.6 installed in your car sell your 2.5 for $3,500 & for God's sake buy yourself a proper pickup truck before you get run out of the State!

thstone · 07-27-2011, 09:58 AM

I agree with doing the upgrade engine swap in the Boxster. The 996 or C5 isn't really going to solve your problems any better or any cheaper.

Overdrive · 07-27-2011, 11:09 AM

All right, funlovin', along with everything else getting thrown your way in this thread, I thought I'd add some more, give you plenty of options to choose from. Give it a read.

http://www.flat6innovations.com/engines/performance-parts-a-services/5-performance-engine-modifications

I was actually discussing this thread with a buddy of mine (one of those VW boys

) and he more or less had this to say: He used to own a MkIV Jetta 1.8T, which tipped the scales at maybe 3300-3400lbs with him in it, I'd imagine. Now we're talking a front-drive sedan here, and he had it modified to put down about 230hp and 270lb-ft to the wheels, and that thing was quick for what it was, and fun. there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do the same with a car that's actually better suited to putting power like that to the ground and handle like a car with that sort of power, weighing in at maybe the 3000 mark.

Now while I couldn't give you any guaranteed numbers from the options Jake Raby elaborates on in that page, I can definitely say this would be a path I'd consider taking, very likely getting Boxster S power, and then some, from your stock engine for $5-6,000, and adding reliability and longevity to the engine on top of that. You get to bump your 2.5 up to a 2.7 and eliminate some of the trouble areas that plague these engines at the same time. Again, I know it's not 405hp, but an extra 60 or more horses in the same car would be plenty for me to have a whole new feeling of fun in my car, and you still get your roof rack, too. (To be honest, I've never seen anyone put anything on the roof of their Corvette, especially not a Z06).

Quickurt · 07-27-2011, 02:24 PM

MY 2006 987 S is for sale here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150634578703&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT

295 HP/ 6 spd, still a boxster and even better than a 986! (In my opinion)

funlovinguy24 · 07-28-2011, 07:16 AM

Great Car Quickurt! However, that is out of my price range by ALOT. I think my best bet is to find someone who is already selling a 3.4l preferably 3.6l transplanted 2000 or so. The 986 models are lighted and doing the swap in my car would probably put it out of commission for awhile and i would spend a ton more money.

I looked at pedros garage! Very cool website and some neat parts! Maybe he should have an option where you sent in your own t piece and he sends the modified one back at a discount?