Go Back   986 Forum - for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-27-2010, 11:08 AM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 22
Hardtop Headroom

Greetings to all. I am the proud owner of a new (to me at least) low mileage 2004 986. Just getting used to the car but so far it is great. I chose the Boxster due to the extra headroom (when used with electric seats) that is has over some of the lesser competition (S2000, Miata).

However, I am contemplating getting a hardtop for the new toy but I'm concerned about headroom. For those with a factory hardtop, does it have a) less headroom, b) more headroom, c) about the same as the soft top.

Thanks for any and all advice,

gsrhoden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 11:12 AM   #2
There Is No Substitute.
 
rick3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: West Coast
Posts: 3,141
Garage
Congrats on your new Boxster!
The hardtop has more headroom, but not much maybe a couple of inches, however it does not add any extra safety, so you are still reliant on the roll bar if the car rolls/flips.
__________________
1999 Ocean Blue Metallic Boxster - blueboxster.com
rick3000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 01:02 PM   #3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 22
Thanks for the info. Now all I have to do is find a Silver Mist hardtop that I can afford and is somewhere near Texas so I can pick it up and not mess with shipping.

Thanks again,
gsrhoden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 03:48 PM   #4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: near Chicago
Posts: 523
I've got a '99, and the hardtop definetely has less headroom. The headliner reduces the headroom. Keep in mind though, that the '99 convertible top does not have a headliner, so that may be different on the newer ones. BTW, I'm 6'4", so the difference is very niticeable to me.
Mike_Yi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 06:41 PM   #5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 146
I'd drive it a bit first before you invest a lot of money in the hard top.

The reason I say to wait is that top down is 100% improvement on a car that's already great. I've had mine for about 2 years now, and I only put the top up if it's raining hard, my nose is turning blue, or I'm getting too sunburnt!

And in Texas too... that hardtop better be gathering dust in your garage most of the year! My dad and I drove from Arizona to Louisiana and we only put the top up for an hour when it rained as we were getting close to Houston. We were so burnt by then, it stayed up till we got to Louisiana.

Last edited by ARModen; 01-27-2010 at 06:46 PM.
ARModen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 08:08 PM   #6
There Is No Substitute.
 
rick3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: West Coast
Posts: 3,141
Garage
I think how much you will use a hardtop depends on where you are. I have to deal with snow for about 6-8 months a year, so I keep the hardtop on, and the significantly reduced noise makes road trips a lot less annoying. But it depend on where you are.

If you are concerned with headroom, try sitting in a Boxster with a hardtop and see for yourself. The reference to more or less than the soft top depends on whether you have a liner or not.
__________________
1999 Ocean Blue Metallic Boxster - blueboxster.com
rick3000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2010, 04:28 AM   #7
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 22
All good points to consider. I would like to travel around a bit with my darling bride of 30 yrs but top down is not her thing and I thought the car might be quieter with the hardtop. Top up or down makes no difference to me. I'm follicly challenged so wind in my hair is a non-issue but skin cancer could be. Looking for a good hat!

I just like driving the car regardless of the top up or down.

Thanks again for everyone's input.
gsrhoden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2010, 07:33 AM   #8
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 146
Oh a good hat is definitely a must! I have found that female co-pilots warm up to the top down thing after a few rides.
ARModen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2010, 11:48 AM   #9
Registered User
 
Quickurt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Coastal Oak Forest
Posts: 1,069
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARModen
Oh a good hat is definitely a must! I have found that female co-pilots warm up to the top down thing after a few rides.
As much of a cliche as the old British sport caps are, you know the ones all the old MG drivers never remove?, I found it to be the best. The short brim is enough to keep the nose from frying completely off my face, it does not have webbing on the back that fries the rear half of the chrome dome, and the short bill does not give the effect of putting the top back up. It also fits nicely in the little cubby hole behind the seat on my 987.
__________________
Sold - Black on Sand Beige 2006 S - 48K miles
18x8.5 and 10 OZ Alleggerita HLT Anthracite wheels and anthracite Cayman side grilles - lovingly adjusted Schnell Short Shift
Quickurt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2010, 09:28 PM   #10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 7,240
I'm in Houston too... I don't blame you a bit for considering a hard top! It's friggin' hot here and I'm going for a cayman S next time around. It ain't worth it.

PM me so we can get together and do a shine and show!
__________________
'97 Boxster (Black Hole for 42,000 Dead Presidents and counting) - 122k
New motor, transmission, suspension, and on and on and on it goes...
RandallNeighbour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 04:26 PM   #11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: near Chicago
Posts: 523
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour
PM me so we can get together and do a shine and show!
Is that a euphamism?
Mike_Yi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 04:54 PM   #12
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 7,240
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_Yi
Is that a euphamism?
Nope. Shine and show (or show and shine) is a term used by my local PCA. Shine up your car and show it off.

Glad to clarify that though. It certainly wasn't a proposition
__________________
'97 Boxster (Black Hole for 42,000 Dead Presidents and counting) - 122k
New motor, transmission, suspension, and on and on and on it goes...
RandallNeighbour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2010, 11:36 AM   #13
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Surf City, NC
Posts: 1,079
I agree with Randall and those that like their hardtops.

I only use mine in winter, and I love the look. Interior quieter also.

It stores in the Porsche wall rack with a OEM cover, altho there is a rolling cart available. Don't store it flat on the floor.

Very light but it take two to tango it on or off w/o a hoist.
__________________
Mike
04 Boxster S - Basalt/Savanna, 6sp, Carrera lites, hardtop
70 914-6 - Black over tan, original/stock
PCA since 1970
70Sixter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 08:29 PM   #14
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Missouri
Posts: 112
Headroom? In a 986???

I'm 6'-4 and I bought a 1999 Boxster because I fit comfortably in it. At least I thought so. Too bad I didn't check to see if my head cleared the roll bar. After I bought it and drove it a while, one day I tilted my head back and discovered that in the event of a rear-end collision, my head was going to get smashed by the roll bar. Not a darned thing you can do about it short of spending thousands on new seats and seat tracks to lower you down, and maybe it wouldn't even be enought. No thanks, I got rid of my motorcycle for the safety of a car, and I wasn't going to have my car kill me. I ended up trading for a Cayman -- there's no roll bar in the Cayman, just a great big comfortable headrest -- plus scads more headroom and more legroom, too. Tall people should stick to Caymans and 987s.
johnsimion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 03:50 PM   #15
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: near Chicago
Posts: 523
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsimion
I'm 6'-4 and I bought a 1999 Boxster because I fit comfortably in it. At least I thought so. Too bad I didn't check to see if my head cleared the roll bar. After I bought it and drove it a while, one day I tilted my head back and discovered that in the event of a rear-end collision, my head was going to get smashed by the roll bar. Not a darned thing you can do about it short of spending thousands on new seats and seat tracks to lower you down, and maybe it wouldn't even be enought. No thanks, I got rid of my motorcycle for the safety of a car, and I wasn't going to have my car kill me. I ended up trading for a Cayman -- there's no roll bar in the Cayman, just a great big comfortable headrest -- plus scads more headroom and more legroom, too. Tall people should stick to Caymans and 987s.
Now I just have to find somebody who will trade me a Cayman for my '99 Boxster.
Mike_Yi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 05:58 PM   #16
There Is No Substitute.
 
rick3000's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: West Coast
Posts: 3,141
Garage
They make a $700 roll bar extension, for taller Boxster owners. It would certainly be cheaper than upgrading to a Cayman, and losing the drop top.
__________________
1999 Ocean Blue Metallic Boxster - blueboxster.com
rick3000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 07:45 PM   #17
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: near Chicago
Posts: 523
Quote:
Originally Posted by rick3000
They make a $700 roll bar extension, for taller Boxster owners. It would certainly be cheaper than upgrading to a Cayman, and losing the drop top.
That doesn't remove the danger of the stock rollbar though.
Mike_Yi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2010, 11:08 AM   #18
Registered User
 
Allen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 37
I have a hard top on my 2004 986 and, as someone else mentioned, the hard top gives you a few more inches of head room than the convertible top. Another plus is that the cockpit is quieter while driving with the hard top than with the convertible top.
Allen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2010, 01:06 PM   #19
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: New York
Posts: 116
My Zeintop must be lower than the OEM hardtop, because it has even less room than the soft top from my '98. I'm getting a bit tired of my head striking the top on bumpy streets...

As for the roll bar issue that John Simion mentions, I addressed that by lashing some foam pipe insulation to the rollbar using long wire ties, then painting the insulation a matching color. Not gorgeous, but could save my cranium in a rear end collision one day.
Gougoushu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2010, 04:27 AM   #20
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 22
Sounds like a factory style hardtop would work for me. Now all I have to do is find one within a few hundred miles of Houston. There seem to be plenty out there for sale but they are way across the country and no one seems to want to prep one for shipment and deal with the shipping. I'm usually the first one up for a road trip but not to drive a 3000 mile round trip just for a top. Oh well, I will just keep looking and maybe a silver one will pop up in my area.

If anybody knows of one in Texas or Louisiana, please let me know.

Thanks again for all the input,

gsrhoden is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page