Porsche Goes Electric

[ultimate1]

Quickurt is right on about the crooked lawyers on both sides that are ruining this country. BruceLee is right on about the fact that these losers in Congress and the white house get to hang around without any performance review and then they get to collect ridiculous windfall pension benefits. I hope both McCain and Obama come to Florida for a town hall because I plan on going to it just to see if I can ask them some questions that will expose them both for what they are. Stupid highly privileged jackasses. Well Obama is a recently privileged jackass.

The funny thing is that whoever wins the election will be the next Jimmy Carter. The winner is going to have to tell the public that interest rates have to go up to boost our dollar so oil prices can come down. This will force more people into foreclosures and create an even more drastic drop in home prices. The winner is going to have to tell people that we are going to have to raise taxes so that we can pay for all the modernization of our infrastructure and the jobs that will come of it. This kind of reminds me of when Dinkins took over as Mayor of New York City. Mayor Koch ran the city into the ground and Dinkins got elected and everybody blamed Dinkins for not being able to fix the problems he inherited from Koch.

Let’s see what Washington has done in the past 30 years.

Reagan and his Administration created what is now know as Al Qaeda and gave Sadam Hussein banned chemical weapons that violated the Geneva Convention. Way to go Rappin Ronny Reagan!

Clinton and his administration did away with Glass-Steagal Act and opened the door for the banks to merge with one another to create an anti-competitive environment and also allow the banks to get into all forms of investments. The type of behavior that caused the run on the banks in the great crash of 1929. Way to go Bill! That brought us the dotcom bubble, the housing bubble and now the creidt and banking crisis. Let's not forget Nafta and the beginning of what became China trade.

Whether you like Dubya Bush or hate him. You got to admit that he is the smartest one of them all. He got everyone to rally behind his decision to go to war with Iraq. He killed two birds with one stone. He got rid of the WMD that his daddy and his administration gave to Saddam Hussein and he got to drive the price of oil up for his buddies to get rich in the same process. Now that is pure genius!

Now we get to vote for McCain or Obama. What a privilege!

Anyway on a positive note we should have built more nuclear plants during the past 30 years and that way we could focus more on Solar, Hydrogen and Wind today. I can’t wait to see how bad these jackasses are going to screw up next!

I got to turn my attention back to the Box and sorry for getting all righteous here!

[Brucelee]

Good stuff Ultimate.\

you are pretty much right on.

[vincesf]

With Tesla owners finally taking delivery of their electric sports cars, and the price of gas almost at $5.00 per gallon in the U.S., Porsche will need to look hard at plug in electric/hybrid technology within the next few years, not only as planned for the Cayenne, but I dare say on their 997 and 987 variants. The 987 is a natural for electric conversion, as it has more than enough space to accommodate an electric motor and battery packs. In fact, in the next 10 years owners of the 986/987 should seriously contemplate a changeover to electric rather than a $15,000 gas engine replacement. I on the otherhand will be happy to keep my gas guzzling '08 987 S, and take delivery of my all electric Aptera in Feb. '09 (see photo attached). The range on the Aptera is 120 miles, top speed 90 mph, 0-60 in 9.5 seconds, and recharges in 2 hours on a regular house plug. My friends, as strange as it looks, the electric car is just in its infancy, and represents the future of cars. Porsche will be relegated to a fun novelty to drive on weekends if and when gas hits $10.00 per gallon, and shall need to change much quicker to meet market demands in an energy challenged world.
vincesf

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by vincesf

With Tesla owners finally taking delivery of their electric sports cars, and the price of gas almost at $5.00 per gallon in the U.S., Porsche will need to look hard at plug in electric/hybrid technology within the next few years, not only as planned for the Cayenne, but I dare say on their 997 and 987 variants. The 987 is a natural for electric conversion, as it has more than enough space to accommodate an electric motor and battery packs. In fact, in the next 10 years owners of the 986/987 should seriously contemplate a changeover to electric rather than a $15,000 gas engine replacement. I on the otherhand will be happy to keep my gas guzzling '08 987 S, and take delivery of my all electric Aptera in Feb. '09 (see photo attached). The range on the Aptera is 120 miles, top speed 90 mph, 0-60 in 9.5 seconds, and recharges in 2 hours on a regular house plug. My friends, as strange as it looks, the electric car is just in its infancy, and represents the future of cars. Porsche will be relegated to a fun novelty to drive on weekends if and when gas hits $10.00 per gallon, and shall need to change much quicker to meet market demands in an energy challenged world.
vincesf

Not to burst your bubble but why do you assume that the cost of electricity will not move along with the price of general energy sources? I guess I am puzzled as to why electric power will be a big bargain. That is certainly not true for heating your home, for example, as electric is far more expensive than natural gas and oil.

Certainly, a hybrid CAN be more efficient than a straight fuel car but there are trade-offs. I would have to add the costs of electric power, battery replacement and the like.

To me, I can't see any mode of transportation being a big bargain in the future.

Just my take on it.

[rick3000]

Personally, I think electric cars are another bait and switch type tactic. They will keep saying in a few more years we'll have a good electric but for know buy a gas car, and they never deliver. I think diesels or diesel hybrids that get 65+ MPG are the best solution, but I have been wrong before. The biggest problem with electric cars most people don't consider is the $8k battery replacement every few years.

[vincesf]

Originally Posted by rick3000

Personally, I think electric cars are another bait and switch type tactic. The biggest problem with electric cars most people don't consider is the $8k battery replacement every few years.

Electric cars may not be the solution to solving the world's energy crisis, they certainly will help in its transition. In the next 20 years, we shall experience a transition away from the internal combustion engine that was invented in the 19th Century, to a much cleaner, more efficient engine to drive automobiles of the future.
vincesf

[Perfectlap]

The expensive battery problem has many solutions. Nissan/Renault are cooking up a line of electric cars where rather than having bespoke batteries for each type of car, we'll have interchangeable batteries which are handed off at a gas station and a full charged one is put in. Solar panels could charge the batteries during the day and cheaper overnight rates would be used to charge the drained batteries.
Well at least that's how I understood it.

Sounds almost toooo logical.