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Quickurt · 06-09-2008, 08:33 AM

I was not directing anything at you, Brucelee, I was stating a fact I witnessed at another, at one time, good forum. Let's not let those with problems overshadow the rest, or the rest will leave.

Brucelee · 06-09-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Quickurt

I was not directing anything at you, Brucelee, I was stating a fact I witnessed at another, at one time, good forum. Let's not let those with problems overshadow the rest, or the rest will leave.

Agreed. All is good!

Lil bastard · 06-09-2008, 02:44 PM

I don't put much stock in Initial Quality Surveys, especially when it comes to a vanity marque like porsche.

If you look at the actual report, porsche made the podium in only two categories - 2nd place with the Cayman and 3rd place with the Cayenne, how that translates into an overall IQS I don't know.

Many have waited so long to make the dream a reality - finally get their 1st porsche, that I feel they're more reticent to report issues (or have a mental frame of mind that the car could even have issues).

Personally, I would not rate porsche extremely high in an overall quality survey, not for the one I own, or others I have owned through the years. They're good, but IMHO, not great.

Jaxonalden · 06-09-2008, 07:13 PM

Brucelee, I'm sure when you started 986Forum.com it wasn't a soapbox for Boxster bashing. As you can tell I've only been a member since March, that's because I bought my Boxster in February, my first Porsche. Driving it around I actually feel embarrassed because there are so few Porsche owners out there and driving one (to me) means you've reached a point in your career where you can splurge and enjoy the finer things life has to offer, and not just dream about them.

Then I found your forum and was excited that I could communicate with others that own these fabulous cars and exchange ideas. I feel, and I've said this numerous times before, that the problems others face with used or new cars for that matter is because the car is abused and the OEM is blamed for it. I'm talking about the redline and rev limiter issue.

No one can tell me that just because a car cost $50K+ means it's suppose to take banging off the rev limiter all day long. These are production automobiles, not race cars. Then again, race cars also break and they're built specifically to run at high rpm's for extended periods. Things will break, seals will leak and manufactures will be blamed. I would love to see statistics (but never will) on how many cars with blown motors & IMS failures have been wound out a few to many times because "it's a Porsche" and now the OEM gets the black eye for not covering the loss.

Brucelee · 06-10-2008, 05:28 AM

You are right, I didn't buy the forum to promote "bashing" of any car. As I have said before, the Boxster is a really wonderful car (IMHO) and a delight to drive and look at.

Aside from the IMS and RMS issue, I believe the Box is about as reliable as any other quality German marque. They have their issues, but not outside the range of what they are. Facing facts, I don't see ANY German car maker matching the Japanese on the whole bulletproof thing.

At the same time, I don't think it is bashing to point out design flaws that I believe the company should have addressed years back.

I like to cite the case of my neighbor, whose 04 Box with 12K had the IMS meldown while stopped at a light. Believe me, this woman was NOT banging the redline on this car.

This of course proves nothing. One case is one case. But, there are many more that are reported here and my heart goes out to these folks.

All I am saying is, the Boxster drivetrain needs to be beefed up. When repair costs are so bloody high, the stakes are pretty important, I think.

Again, I love the Box and I do wish they would just get these two issues sorted out.

Thanks for the input.

Allen K. Littlefield · 06-10-2008, 11:31 AM

Organized a club event with a nice drive last Sunday. A GT3, Carrera with some mods a Carrera Cabriolet, a 924, another boxster and a 911SC made the spirited trip up route 97 from Port Jervis to Callicoon. My 2.7 Tip kept up with the best of them especially on the twistys. No engine failure, plenty of power and handling was outrageous. The car is fine to look at and fine to drive. 40k on it and it is wonderful. Now how is that for some positive input? :dance:

To hijack a bit more, Wed. night car show at Bear Mtn. NY has now been going on for a few weeks. One of these nights maybe some of us should meet there?

AKL

OldBlevins · 06-10-2008, 11:49 AM

I think the comment somebody made that people who are experiencing problems are more likely to write is probably true. And I realize that anecedotal information is no basis for broad conclusions. All that said,

I've had my Boxster for over a year now, put 11,000 miles on it and have had zero (that's zip, nil, nada) in the way of problems. I had a PPI and just had the 30K service and nothing wrong showed up. So I'm doin' the Happy Dance. :dance: