02' engine blown!

[turbo23dog]

Sorry to hear of your misfortune.


How long have you owned the car and how many miles are on it?

[thenavarro]

I sympathize with you as my 01 engine blew in October of 07. I got a 3.2 from Jed at Silverstar Recycling and would recommend them if you do have to have one. Good luck to you.

Mike

[dcporsche99]

Hey Eric,

I sent you the pdf of the DIY for a 3.4.



Hey Mike,

Anything to report on the 3.2 swap?? Has the swap already been completed?? I would be interested to get your thoughts on it.

[thenavarro]

Originally Posted by dcporsche99

Hey Eric,

I sent you the pdf of the DIY for a 3.4.



Hey Mike,

Anything to report on the 3.2 swap?? Has the swap already been completed?? I would be interested to get your thoughts on it.

DCPorsche99 and Victoreric,

Yep, the swap has been completed. A nice upgrade that I would definitely recommend. Car has a lot more oommppphhhhh, especially noticeable from about 3500-5500 RPM. From standing still, until you hit 3,000 RPM or so, I don't really notice that much of a difference, but everything above that range is a DEFINITE large difference. I haven't tested the top speed limit of the motor yet, but I never tested that either with the 2.7.

According to my installer, it was a simple swap, nothing complex. I am still using the same 5 speed transmission. I did install a new clutch kit. I can't speak to the life expectancy of the tranny as I've only had it now for about a month. My dealer didn't think that a 6 speed was necessary and actually indicated that the 5 speed would make it more fun to drive. As a 2.7, the car was a lot of fun, but now its so much better as a 3.2. It's not just me that notices the difference as my routine passengers have all commented on the increase in power.

I do have a CEL, it throws codes of P1128 & P1130, but doesn't seem to affect performance. This probably means I need to clean my MAF sensor, or it could be related to my having installed Fabspeed Cat Bypass pipes. Either way, doesn't bother me and can't see that it's causing any issues with the car. One of these days I'll get around to cleaning the MAF and see if that fixes it.

My 3.2, which included a years warranty on parts AND labor, cost me $5200.00 delivered if I remember correctly from Silver Star and no core was required.

Buy the most power you can afford!!! Good luck in your decision.

Mike

[victoreric]

Originally Posted by thenavarro

DCPorsche99 and Victoreric,

Yep, the swap has been completed. A nice upgrade that I would definitely recommend. Car has a lot more oommppphhhhh, especially noticeable from about 3500-5500 RPM. From standing still, until you hit 3,000 RPM or so, I don't really notice that much of a difference, but everything above that range is a DEFINITE large difference. I haven't tested the top speed limit of the motor yet, but I never tested that either with the 2.7.

According to my installer, it was a simple swap, nothing complex. I am still using the same 5 speed transmission. I did install a new clutch kit. I can't speak to the life expectancy of the tranny as I've only had it now for about a month. My dealer didn't think that a 6 speed was necessary and actually indicated that the 5 speed would make it more fun to drive. As a 2.7, the car was a lot of fun, but now its so much better as a 3.2. It's not just me that notices the difference as my routine passengers have all commented on the increase in power.

I do have a CEL, it throws codes of P1128 & P1130, but doesn't seem to affect performance. This probably means I need to clean my MAF sensor, or it could be related to my having installed Fabspeed Cat Bypass pipes. Either way, doesn't bother me and can't see that it's causing any issues with the car. One of these days I'll get around to cleaning the MAF and see if that fixes it.

My 3.2, which included a years warranty on parts AND labor, cost me $5200.00 delivered if I remember correctly from Silver Star and no core was required.

Buy the most power you can afford!!! Good luck in your decision.

Mike

Did you ever consider a 3.4 or 3.6 and why did you end up going with a 3.2? Reading through the autofarm links about faulty engine, it seems that the earlier 3.4 also have a great chance of failure. So I'm wondering if it's worthwhile. Would the 3.2 S engine be more reliable?

[saaber]

victoreric, Do you know which modifications, if any, the new engine from Porsche would include?

I assume the new Porsche engine would continue with the original cylinder sleeve design so that the cracked sleeve issue may still be there?

Would the new Porsche engine have a modified intermediate shaft or the old design?

Any changes to the head design that could prevent cracked cylinder heads?

Finding the answers to these questions may be a guide as to whether to get a new Porsche engine or not. It may be worth the extra cost if these key problem areas are addressed in the new engine (notice when I say "new" I am not talking about the 987 engine, just the new crate 986 engine). Of course the Porsche warranty would be nice too.

BTW, I am sure the new engine would have the revised RMS seal.

Also, another good article on engine failures via autofarm:

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/pdf/911PW_Apr06.pdf

[Boxtaboy]

victoreric, sorry to hear that news, but did it ever occur to you to get your car to a dealer to get a second opinion? maybe your independant shop is correct, but it doesn't hurt to get a second opinion, especially with such an expensive repair. it's easy for the shop to just tell you that you need a whole new engine, when in reality, you might just need a repair. Just a thought. Good luck with it.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by saaber

victoreric, Do you know which modifications, if any, the new engine from Porsche would include?

I assume the new Porsche engine would continue with the original cylinder sleeve design so that the cracked sleeve issue may still be there?

Would the new Porsche engine have a modified intermediate shaft or the old design?

Any changes to the head design that could prevent cracked cylinder heads?

Finding the answers to these questions may be a guide as to whether to get a new Porsche engine or not. It may be worth the extra cost if these key problem areas are addressed in the new engine (notice when I say "new" I am not talking about the 987 engine, just the new crate 986 engine). Of course the Porsche warranty would be nice too.

BTW, I am sure the new engine would have the revised RMS seal.

Also, another good article on engine failures via autofarm:

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/pdf/911PW_Apr06.pdf

I am not aware of any design changes in the new Porsche motors. I know my neighbors 04 went the way of the IMS.

[thenavarro]

Originally Posted by victoreric

Did you ever consider a 3.4 or 3.6 and why did you end up going with a 3.2? Reading through the autofarm links about faulty engine, it seems that the earlier 3.4 also have a great chance of failure. So I'm wondering if it's worthwhile. Would the 3.2 S engine be more reliable?

Victoreric,

I considered those options, but only very briefly. I don't have the mechanical ability to do the installation and modifications for those engines myself, and it would have cost me more coin then I had available. The 3.2 was the same cost as the 2.7 so for me, that was a no-brainer. If you can afford it, or can do the work yourself, then by all means, go for the largest you can make work. You are going to have a significant expense anyway that you go, so you might as well go ahead and get all the power that your pocketbook can handle.

Mike

[SinnerDC2]

how many miles on it? I have a 2000 2.7 w/ 70k and I cant afford to replace the motor right now since I just bought the car..

--edit I found the answer

[victoreric]

Originally Posted by thenavarro

I sympathize with you as my 01 engine blew in October of 07. I got a 3.2 from Jed at Silverstar Recycling and would recommend them if you do have to have one. Good luck to you.

Mike

Was the process fairly easy? Did you need to upgrade anything else? Talking to my local mechanic, he thinks that my old transmission won't be able to handle a 3.2 or 3.4. Any thoughts?

[victoreric]

Originally Posted by turbo23dog

Sorry to hear of your misfortune.


How long have you owned the car and how many miles are on it?

I've had the car for almost 2 years now. Mileage is at about 60,000kms. Been good until now.