10-04-2007, 05:14 AM
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I've got midnight blue but never used the Z-PC. In the right angle under bright sunlight you can see very light swirl marks.
When you apply and remove Zaino don't use a circular motion. Use up and down and side way movements depending on the direction that light will hit the car. Hood from the windshiled to the front and doors straight up and down and left and right.
Be sure not to clean your towels using fabric softene. You'll get a lot of smearing if you use softener. I use heavy weight micro fiber towels. I do not like using the light weight cotton towels they don't remove the Zaino as well
You must live in a very humid place. I have never had to add the accelerator to
Z-5 only the Z-2. The Z-2 is easier to remove than the Z-5.
If your car is hazing you've got too much product on it. If you are spraying on the shine enhancer (Z-10?) be sure to apply it to a very small area and remove it quickly with a heavy micro fiber. If you don't you will get a haze.
Finally, I would think you should rewash the car with the Zaino Car wash and start over with Z-2 or Z-5.
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10-04-2007, 07:08 AM
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I'm not sure that many pro detailers that I know of turn to Z-PC as a proper swirl remover. For PC or Cyclo use the consensus is that Menzerma or Optimum Compound is the go to goop.
But I think you did the right thing by first trying a less abrasive swirl remover to see if it did the job. You want to avoid going to a tougher product right off the bat because you end up cutting away more clear coat than necessary. Z-PC is probably more a maintenance product for removing micro marring, similar to the Poorboy's SSR's.
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10-04-2007, 10:47 AM
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After having some minor bodywork done recently I clayed the car and applied Z5. First time I've used it. It must be applied very sparingly and allowed to dry completely. I waited a week and applied a second coat. I really was pleased with the result. Last weekend I applied a coat of Z2 on top of the Z5 and the shine is amazing. I go over the car weekly with the Z6 spray and I've had several P car owners ask me what I use. You do need to be patient using the Zaino products but I think the're great.
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10-04-2007, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rdancd816
After having some minor bodywork done recently I clayed the car and applied Z5. First time I've used it. It must be applied very sparingly and allowed to dry completely. I waited a week and applied a second coat. I really was pleased with the result. Last weekend I applied a coat of Z2 on top of the Z5 and the shine is amazing. I go over the car weekly with the Z6 spray and I've had several P car owners ask me what I use. You do need to be patient using the Zaino products but I think the're great.
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on the bottles it says put veryyy light thin coats.
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10-04-2007, 01:28 PM
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Well i got a response, but it pretty much just reiterates what it says on the bottle and the website. He said I can call too, but I was at work all day. Maybe I'm just expecting too much? I look at the paint with a flourescent garage light shining on it. I looked at it this morning and it did have a nice shine to it. As for the haze, I guess I just need a thinner layer. I just get worried that I'm not applying enough when you can barely see where you've applied it.
Thanks for the input guys.
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10-04-2007, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pat1USMC
Well i got a response, but it pretty much just reiterates what it says on the bottle and the website. He said I can call too, but I was at work all day. Maybe I'm just expecting too much? I look at the paint with a flourescent garage light shining on it. I looked at it this morning and it did have a nice shine to it. As for the haze, I guess I just need a thinner layer. I just get worried that I'm not applying enough when you can barely see where you've applied it.
Thanks for the input guys.
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Glad you are making a little progress. With Zaino, less is best. Just do thinner, multiple coats about 12-24 hours apart.
I put a coat on, parked in the garage, then buff off the next day.
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10-04-2007, 01:59 PM
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Swirl Marks on Dark Finishes
I've been using Zaino products on my '07 speed yellow Boxster for almost a year with excellent results. The car was brand new when I started with Zaino so I didn't use any clay.
Prior to my Boxster, I had a black '06 Nissan 350Z. I also started using Zaino products when the car was new. The results were also excellent, but the car had very light scratch (swirl) marks which could not be totally eliminated. I think it is just the nature of dark finishes. In certain light the marks show. My yellow car, no doubt, has very light scratches also but they simply don't show. (For this reason, I won't buy a very dark car again.)
As you've been advised, use very little, let dry thoroughly and wipe off with straight strokes.
Good luck.
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10-04-2007, 05:51 PM
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Wax On ---> Wax Off!
I never heard of this product before but after listening to everyone here rave about it I decided I wanted to try it.
The FAQ on their site recommends buying this:
So for the ultimate, your shopping list includes ZFX (or Z-1), Z-2, Z-6, Z-7, Z-18 and a couple of #314's applicator pads. For minor imperfections, pick up some Z-5.
Geee....only 8 products to use. I wonder if I can do this before a bird drops a load on the car?
At what point did washing the car become so complicated? Also, there is too much to read on the web site. Is there something that will make the car shine with two easy steps like "Step 1: Wash. Step 2: Apply this stuff". Done.
I think I am going to buy the stuff though to give it a try. Do I really have to buy everything? How long does the entire cleaning/polishing process take?
Last edited by cartagena; 10-04-2007 at 05:57 PM.
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