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[porsche-land]

Mr. Raby,

With all due respect to what you do, you can keep pushing your theory to everybody out there who believes in you like in God. People pay you $700 for a bearing that costs you $100 to make. We know you don't produce the actual bearings, you buy them, you just produce the rest. Everyone can go to any CNC shop, and get all the remaining parts made for about $60. You buy your bearings, and simply engrave your name on it, or you might have the factory engrave your name on it.
These bearings are the same exact quality as ours, or any other good quality material bearing available out there.
Anyone can buy these bearings themselves if they search for it!
Same thing goes for you rebuilding engines. We are 100% sure, you're doing it perfect, just like we do. It does take vast knowledge, and precision. There are many so called "mechanics" in US, who don't know what the hell they're doing. But there are also many intelligent mechanics in Europe who think logically, and are able to put a Porsche engine together without any problems. We know many Porsche shops from Europe, and many of them come from small European countries. Whereas, in US we can only count a few good Porsche specialists who know what they're doing.
Me and my European friends are amazed by how much you charge for your engines, and that you're basically a guru to Americans. Your prices are comparable to spaceship costs, most of these cars are not even worth $20k. Some might be more expensive, like 997 Carrera S...
Real price to rebuild an engine like that is between $10-12k. That covers the parts, labor and warranty.
We really don't understand people who spend so much money on your engines, you're charging your customers double what we charge. That means our customers can have 2 engines for the price of one of your engines, with warranty, and much less time.
We also sell already rebuilt motors for $10-12k, and currently have 10 in stock available for purchase. Next 10 is waiting to be rebuilt. Soon, we will lower our prices, as we will have freshly rebuilt engines from Europe. Our lower cost=savings for our customers. Great quality work from Europe will be guaranteed.
We suggest you should stop bullying your competition on the forums, you're not the only good Porsche mechanic in US. We have better things to do with our time than to reply to your "comments" online. You have your business, and we have ours. There are other good shops out there too, like in Florida, they do not treat engine rebuilding like rocket science either...Their prices are comparable to ours. They also sell the IMS, like we do.
Eurosport in Chicago also rebuilds engines, they do a great job, they charge a bit more than us, but their prices are still comparable. They don't treat it as spaceships either.
Hopefully people will understand that Porsche engine rebuilding is not only reserved for Jake Raby, there are other options out there, and people should know about it.

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

Mr. Raby,

With all due respect to what you do, you can keep pushing your theory to everybody out there who believes in you like in God. People pay you $700 for a bearing that costs you $100 to make. We know you don't produce the actual bearings, you buy them, you just produce the rest. Everyone can go to any CNC shop, and get all the remaining parts made for about $60. You buy your bearings, and simply engrave your name on it, or you might have the factory engrave your name on it.
These bearings are the same exact quality as ours, or any other good quality material bearing available out there.
Anyone can buy these bearings themselves if they search for it!
Same thing goes for you rebuilding engines. We are 100% sure, you're doing it perfect, just like we do. It does take vast knowledge, and precision. There are many so called "mechanics" in US, who don't know what the hell they're doing. But there are also many intelligent mechanics in Europe who think logically, and are able to put a Porsche engine together without any problems. We know many Porsche shops from Europe, and many of them come from small European countries. Whereas, in US we can only count a few good Porsche specialists who know what they're doing.
Me and my European friends are amazed by how much you charge for your engines, and that you're basically a guru to Americans. Your prices are comparable to spaceship costs, most of these cars are not even worth $20k. Some might be more expensive, like 997 Carrera S...
Real price to rebuild an engine like that is between $10-12k. That covers the parts, labor and warranty.
We really don't understand people who spend so much money on your engines, you're charging your customers double what we charge. That means our customers can have 2 engines for the price of one of your engines, with warranty, and much less time.
We also sell already rebuilt motors for $10-12k, and currently have 10 in stock available for purchase. Next 10 is waiting to be rebuilt. Soon, we will lower our prices, as we will have freshly rebuilt engines from Europe. Our lower cost=savings for our customers. Great quality work from Europe will be guaranteed.
We suggest you should stop bullying your competition on the forums, you're not the only good Porsche mechanic in US. We have better things to do with our time than to reply to your "comments" online. You have your business, and we have ours. There are other good shops out there too, like in Florida, they do not treat engine rebuilding like rocket science either...Their prices are comparable to ours. They also sell the IMS, like we do.
Eurosport in Chicago also rebuilds engines, they do a great job, they charge a bit more than us, but their prices are still comparable. They don't treat it as spaceships either.
Hopefully people will understand that Porsche engine rebuilding is not only reserved for Jake Raby, there are other options out there, and people should know about it.

What a bunch of horse****************! I hope you never sell an engine to a 986 Forum Member or Rennlist Member again. You've never contributed a single iota of help or information to any single 986 Forum member, ever. All you've ever done is hawk your parts here and try to sell stuff.

Need I mention, only an idiot would ever call their business Porsche-land, then change it to Forsche-land, and then change it a 3rd time. That's reason enough not to buy from you. I'm glad Porsche corporate shut you down this summer when you started hawking your crap here on the Forum.

Still waiting for your PM. Don't know what you are so afraid of.

[porsche-land]

Originally Posted by Flavor 987S

What a bunch of horse****************! I hope you never sell an engine to a 986 Forum Member or Rennlist Member again. You've never contributed a single iota of help or information to any single 986 Forum member, ever. All you've ever done is hawk your parts here and try to sell stuff.

Need I mention, only an idiot would ever call their business Porsche-land, then change it to Forsche-land, and then change it a 3rd time. That's reason enough not to buy from you. I'm glad Porsche corporate shut you down this summer when you started hawking your crap here on the Forum.

Still waiting for your PM. Don't know what you are so afraid of.

Dear Flavor 987S,

One and only advise I will give YOU on this forum is to mind your own business. Ever since we started to post on this forum, we have read your less than intelligent comments. You must be a very bitter man, and have nothing else to do in your life than to sit in front of your computer, and hate us.
Even if you have something to do in your life, you can still come and visit or give us a call. You will find our contact info here, genius: CONTACT AND DIRECTIONS - ************ ************ ************ ************ ************ ************ ************MB MOTORSPORTS
We have sold our engines to customers all over US, Canada, Mexico, Central America, Germany, Poland, even Australia!
Our honest work speaks for itself, so do our prices. Same thing goes for IMS bearing. We don't thrive on people's lack of knowledge...
FYI, we have received many positive responses from other forum members after last night's post.

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

Dear Flavor 987S,

One and only advise I will give YOU on this forum is to mind your own business. Ever since we started to post on this forum, we have read your less than intelligent comments. You must be a very bitter man, and have nothing else to do in your life than to sit in front of your computer, and hate us.
Even if you have something to do in your life, you can still come and visit or give us a call. You will find our contact info here, genius: CONTACT AND DIRECTIONS - ************ ************ ************ ************ ************ ************ ************MB MOTORSPORTS
We have sold our engines to customers all over US, Canada, Mexico, Central America, Germany, Poland, even Australia!
Our honest work speaks for itself, so do our prices. Same thing goes for IMS bearing. We don't thrive on people's lack of knowledge...
FYI, we have received many positive responses from other forum members after last night's post.

Hey, when you start making the rules around here, please let me know. Until then, STFU. Be careful who you try to f&$@ with and challenge. Because within days of your stupid June Liquidation post for selling parts, your company was shut down, your web site was shut down, your phones were shut down, and etc.

Still waiting for your PM.

[78F350]

Get a room you two. Hug it out.

[cnavarro]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

Mr. Raby,

With all due respect to what you do, you can keep pushing your theory to everybody out there who believes in you like in God. People pay you $700 for a bearing that costs you $100 to make. We know you don't produce the actual bearings, you buy them, you just produce the rest. Everyone can go to any CNC shop, and get all the remaining parts made for about $60. You buy your bearings, and simply engrave your name on it, or you might have the factory engrave your name on it.
These bearings are the same exact quality as ours, or any other good quality material bearing available out there.
Anyone can buy these bearings themselves if they search for it!

With all due respect, you do not know what you are talking about. Yes, our bearing races and cages are made by IJK out of Japan. The balls themselves are made by SKF for our bearing supplier who custom assembles these bearings for us and only for us. They are not cheap but I'm not going to discuss specific bearing cost with you, and no, you can't buy these specific bearings from anywhere else.

Furthermore, the issue of price has been hashed out years earlier on several forums- there is more than just material cost that goes into a product. You have many pricing levels for resellers from the wholesaler to the shop to the end user, and you have to provide margins for everyone along the way. If we didn't have a worldwide distribution network and sold direct, we could sell the kit for less than what you charge for yours.

Now, since we are talking about bearings, let's talk about your bearings - you supply a Romanian URB bearing, part number NUP 204E:

Cylindrical roller bearings KFB/URB NUP 204 E (new machine offer).

Even though you took some effort to remove the part number off the bearing, it was still visible. I asked our bearing engineer about this bearing and their consensus is that "URB is sort of the “Harbor Freight” of roller bearings." You advertise this kit as made in Germany on eBay, but the bearing is not German at all.

You could easily find the same size and type of bearing made by FAG or SKF, but of German origin in the $30-40 range. The rest of your kit consists of a cheap bolt, a few nuts, and spacer. There really is no reason why your kit should be any more expensive than the Pelican Parts kit which is also designed to use the original flange. Your kit also comes with no instructions whatsoever. Wayne wrote a book and has a whole section in there and on the Pelican website about installing their bearing kit. And we have the Bentley Publisher's video that Tony Callas helped make along with very detailed instructions (albeit without any pictures).

And speaking of roller bearings, the other commercially available roller bearing kit offered also uses a URB bearing (and they also claim made in the USA), but their bearing is much larger, so comparing apples to apples, their bearing has more load capacity. Also, their kit has seen several revisions, adding provisions for extra oil to the bearing, which yours does not, since their kit comes with a new flange.



Forsche-Land's bearing kit is shown left - the EPS kit is shown right.

Furthermore our European agents, even one from Germany, has never seen or heard anything about your roller bearing kit. So again, like many before you, you can say there are thousands of these in service and that everyone uses them, but where is the proof?

[porsche-land]

Originally Posted by cnavarro

With all due respect, you do not know what you are talking about. Yes, our bearing races and cages are made by IJK out of Japan. The balls themselves are made by SKF for our bearing supplier who custom assembles these bearings for us and only for us. They are not cheap but I'm not going to discuss specific bearing cost with you, and no, you can't buy these specific bearings from anywhere else.

Furthermore, the issue of price has been hashed out years earlier on several forums- there is more than just material cost that goes into a product. You have many pricing levels for resellers from the wholesaler to the shop to the end user, and you have to provide margins for everyone along the way. If we didn't have a worldwide distribution network and sold direct, we could sell the kit for less than what you charge for yours.

Now, since we are talking about bearings, let's talk about your bearings - you supply a Romanian URB bearing, part number NUP 204E:

Cylindrical roller bearings KFB/URB NUP 204 E (new machine offer).

Even though you took some effort to remove the part number off the bearing, it was still visible. I asked our bearing engineer about this bearing and their consensus is that "URB is sort of the “Harbor Freight” of roller bearings." You advertise this kit as made in Germany on eBay, but the bearing is not German at all.

You could easily find the same size and type of bearing made by FAG or SKF, but of German origin in the $30-40 range. The rest of your kit consists of a cheap bolt, a few nuts, and spacer. There really is no reason why your kit should be any more expensive than the Pelican Parts kit which is also designed to use the original flange. Your kit also comes with no instructions whatsoever. Wayne wrote a book and has a whole section in there and on the Pelican website about installing their bearing kit. And we have the Bentley Publisher's video that Tony Callas helped make along with very detailed instructions (albeit without any pictures).

And speaking of roller bearings, the other commercially available roller bearing kit offered also uses a URB bearing (and they also claim made in the USA), but their bearing is much larger, so comparing apples to apples, their bearing has more load capacity. Also, their kit has seen several revisions, adding provisions for extra oil to the bearing, which yours does not, since their kit comes with a new flange.



Forsche-Land's bearing kit is shown left - the EPS kit is shown right.

Furthermore our European agents, even one from Germany, has never seen or heard anything about your roller bearing kit. So again, like many before you, you can say there are thousands of these in service and that everyone uses them, but where is the proof?

If you'd read the description in our Ebay listing it says:
"This set is produced in Germany, most of independent Porsche repair shops use this exact set to update IMS in Europe."
We get the whole set from our partner shop in Germany. Nowhere it states that this bearing is made in Germany. It says the whole set is made in Germany. Same as your set is made in US, it doesn't say anywhere that you use a Japanese bearing. You, or we might as well use German, Polish, Romanian or any other bearing produced out there. Porsche factory does the same.
In the end, it doesn't matter where the bearing is produced, it's the quality that matters. The globalization has it's rights, companies search for cheaper labor costs around the world, but still keep the same quality of materials.
Even factory Porsche parts are produced all around the world, Ukraine, Poland, Chech Republic, Portugal, and Italy.
The IMS kits we sell have been tested in Europe for many years, and the retrofit concept has been been around for many years before your patent.
You're stating that IMS kit we sell is not good, let us repeat again, our partners in Europe have been using it for MANY YEARS, and never has a problem with them.
The truth is, that your bearings, and our bearings are very similar to the Porsche quality from factory.
How do you explain the fact that many IMS bearings have been used for many miles, and are still good. Whereas, some give up after as little as 15k miles? It depends on the series of bearings which the factory was using at the time. Porsche used bearings from Japan, Poland, and Germany at the time, doesn't matter which one it was, some gave up after low mileage, and some worked for years without any problems.
Therefore, your or our factory made bearings are not better or worse than the original ones used by Porsche. The only difference is that you cannot purchase a Porsche bearing by itself, you have to buy the whole shaft set for $1800 plus tax.
The only problem with Porsche bearings is that the load capacity is too low, and RPM's are too high. In the long run (ie:200k miles), same thing will happen with your or our bearings.
That's why Porsche wouldn't take the risk anymore, and changed it to the bigger shaft.
You business is based on the fact that dealer doesn't sell new bearings by itself, you ave found the niche in the market, and have taken advantage of it.
You overdid it with charging your customers too much for a product that is not worth as much. People didn't have the choice before, now they do.
Now, you and Mr. Raby cannot stand the fact that someone else sells IMS bearings. You research every competitor out there to prove your bearing is the only good one. We sell the bearings, and also rebuild Porsche engines. We use our bearings, and put our name on it. We wouldn't do so if we had any doubts, we're not suicidal.
Maybe you have some tests run by an independent research facility that would conclude your statements? If you do, please forward these to the forum, pretty sure everyone would love to see that.
If you don't , please let us know and we will be able to get it done for you.
As to having your bearings custom assembled, do you really think that nobody else can find a company that will produce and assemble these as well? We are working on it to prove you within a week that it's possible. Even though it sounds like a bunch of lies.
If you claim that you have another supplier producing your balls for the bearings, please provide the proof of that, we don't believe you on this one. Please send a video on YouTube of that process, and then we will believe in your claims.
Since you have been open about your production process, please see it through, and we will take our hats off to your invention if you can prove it.

[cnavarro]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

If you'd read the description in our Ebay listing it says:
"This set is produced in Germany, most of independent Porsche repair shops use this exact set to update IMS in Europe."
We get the whole set from our partner shop in Germany. Nowhere it states that this bearing is made in Germany. It says the whole set is made in Germany. Same as your set is made in US, it doesn't say anywhere that you use a Japanese bearing.

Have you done your homework. Obviously not. There have been dozens if not more discussions on our bearings (and others) on this forum (and others again) and we've provided full disclosure as to the origins of our bearings as being custom made for us by a ceramic bearing specialist out of California. Furthermore, we state right on our website that we use Japanese components:

Is it Genuine?

You, or we might as well use German, Polish, Romanian or any other bearing produced out there. Porsche factory does the same.
In the end, it doesn't matter where the bearing is produced, it's the quality that matters. The globalization has it's rights, companies search for cheaper labor costs around the world, but still keep the same quality of materials.
Even factory Porsche parts are produced all around the world, Ukraine, Poland, Chech Republic, Portugal, and Italy.

Yes, the source of the bearings do matter. It is well known in the bearing world the URB bearings are not much better than the Chinese bearings so prevalent in the market.

The IMS kits we sell have been tested in Europe for many years, and the retrofit concept has been been around for many years before your patent.
You're stating that IMS kit we sell is not good, let us repeat again, our partners in Europe have been using it for MANY YEARS, and never has a problem with them.
The truth is, that your bearings, and our bearings are very similar to the Porsche quality from factory.

You can say this but it's just not true. Our ceramic hybrid is better than the original conventional bearing, but the OE bearings were at least from a trusted manufacturer known for quality bearings.

Hybrid ceramic ball bearings

The closest thing to our single row bearing you can find is a Chinese piece of junk for $70-80. To compare to our bearings, an equivalent SFK ceramic hybrid retails for almost $400 when purchased one at a time.

[QUOTE}How do you explain the fact that many IMS bearings have been used for many miles, and are still good. Whereas, some give up after as little as 15k miles? It depends on the series of bearings which the factory was using at the time. Porsche used bearings from Japan, Poland, and Germany at the time, doesn't matter which one it was, some gave up after low mileage, and some worked for years without any problems.[/QUOTE]

Again, this has been discussed at length. It's just not random why the fail. Load capacity is one issue coupled with many other factors including driving style and maintenance.

Therefore, your or our factory made bearings are not better or worse than the original ones used by Porsche.

No, not true. Making the same false statement repeatedly does not make it true.

The only difference is that you cannot purchase a Porsche bearing by itself, you have to buy the whole shaft set for $1800 plus tax.

Exactly. When I was approached by Bruce Anderson about all the problems with the M96 engine, it was accepted common knowledge that the IMS bearing could not be serviced and that the M96 engine was disposable. We changed the rules.

The only problem with Porsche bearings is that the load capacity is too low, and RPM's are too high. In the long run (ie:200k miles), same thing will happen with your or our bearings.
That's why Porsche wouldn't take the risk anymore, and changed it to the bigger shaft.

This statement proves to me that you do not know what you are talking about. The larger bearing Porsche went to increased the ball speed, reducing street failures, but increasing track failures. Furthermore, ball bearings like RPM - it has been seen time and time again that cars driven like they were stolen (or at high speeds in Germany) have less IMS failures do to higher engine RPMs. This is just like you rebuilding engines and only sleeving the cylinders that have damage or problems, leaving others unfixed, which will eventually fail. We loose one Motormeister to only be replaced by another.

You business is based on the fact that dealer doesn't sell new bearings by itself, you ave found the niche in the market, and have taken advantage of it.
You overdid it with charging your customers too much for a product that is not worth as much. People didn't have the choice before, now they do.
Now, you and Mr. Raby cannot stand the fact that someone else sells IMS bearings. You research every competitor out there to prove your bearing is the only good one.

Our only issue is with competitors that make false claims and knock down our product to make theirs look better. Of course we research our competition and we buy and test all the competition's products, including yours. There are many things that will run if installed, but not run right, IMS kits included. Again there is more than just the sum of the parts.

We sell the bearings, and also rebuild Porsche engines. We use our bearings, and put our name on it. We wouldn't do so if we had any doubts, we're not suicidal.

Considering you've changed your name three times in a year, your name doesn't carry much in the US market or here on the forums. Respect is earned. I, like Jake, have spent thousands of hours on many forums helping others with their problems and developing AND TESTING those solutions we have marketed.

Maybe you have some tests run by an independent research facility that would conclude your statements? If you do, please forward these to the forum, pretty sure everyone would love to see that.

As is commonly posted in threads, use the search feature. This has all been said before. The reason you haven't read any of it is that all you do is come on this forum and post ads for rebuilt engines and do not provide any value to the online Porsche community.

If you don't , please let us know and we will be able to get it done for you.
As to having your bearings custom assembled, do you really think that nobody else can find a company that will produce and assemble these as well? We are working on it to prove you within a week that it's possible. Even though it sounds like a bunch of lies.
If you claim that you have another supplier producing your balls for the bearings, please provide the proof of that, we don't believe you on this one. Please send a video on YouTube of that process, and then we will believe in your claims.
Since you have been open about your production process, please see it through, and we will take our hats off to your invention if you can prove it.

Again, we've already been through the gauntlet. Now it's your turn. Don't think you're being singled out or bullied. The forums did the same thing to us back in 2008 and again when we came out with the IMS Solution.

[porsche-land]

QUOTE:"This statement proves to me that you do not know what you are talking about. The larger bearing Porsche went to increased the ball speed, reducing street failures, but increasing track failures. Furthermore, ball bearings like RPM - it has been seen time and time again that cars driven like they were stolen (or at high speeds in Germany) have less IMS failures do to higher engine RPMs. This is just like you rebuilding engines and only sleeving the cylinders that have damage or problems, leaving others unfixed, which will eventually fail. We loose one Motormeister to only be replaced by another."

You statement regarding IMS failure due to driving style is simply false. You implied that these cars get stolen in Germany, and that the thieves drive fast on the Autobahn (and thanks to that they do not fail) is simply a picture of what you and Raby have in your heads.
Both of you push your theories which you have created to people. If you will ever open your eyes, you will realize that Porsches have been fixed in Europe long before you both existed on these forums. We have driven these cars in Europe 300km/h, and the IMS would fail for no reason sometimes. Driving style has nothing to do with it.
We will repeat again, we did not start this conversation about your IMS. Raby's the one who started "sharing" his opinion here on OUR tread. We did not start getting into your business until Raby started attacking us on the forum. We did not just start to talk about your bearing out of the blue, we know you've been selling them for years, and great for you. But when you get into our business, you will have to face the consequences. You're not the only person who can produce a bearing like that, we will prove you wrong. Even if we have to sell it for our costs, we will provide an option for people to buy it for a better price than yours.
Next time maybe you and Raby will learn NOT TO GET IN ANYBODY'S BUSINESS.
He's already facing the consequences of his previous posts on this tread.
We did change our name 2 times, in Europe people use brand names commonly, it's not being blocked as much there as here, so automotive shops use the name of the make they specialize in all the time. We have received a letter from Porsche, and changed our name. It hasn't been done because we are trying to avoid any responsibility or anything like that. So please don't imply we're not trustworthy because of our name change.
We will let you know about the IMS investigation as soon as we will find out. We deal with people in Europe, and even if we will have to dig it out of the ground, we will get it.

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

You statement regarding IMS failure due to driving style is simply false. You implied that these cars get stolen in Germany, and that the thieves drive fast on the Autobahn (and thanks to that they do not fail) is simply a picture of what you and Raby have in your heads.
Both of you push your theories which you have created to people. If you will ever open your eyes, you will realize that Porsches have been fixed in Europe long before you both existed on these forums. We have driven these cars in Europe 300km/h, and the IMS would fail for no reason sometimes. Driving style has nothing to do with it.
We will repeat again, we did not start this conversation about your IMS. Raby's the one who started "sharing" his opinion here on OUR tread. We did not start getting into your business until Raby started attacking us on the forum. We did not just start to talk about your bearing out of the blue, we know you've been selling them for years, and great for you. But when you get into our business, you will have to face the consequences. You're not the only person who can produce a bearing like that, we will prove you wrong. Even if we have to sell it for our costs, we will provide an option for people to buy it for a better price than yours.
Next time maybe you and Raby will learn NOT TO GET IN ANYBODY'S BUSINESS.
He's already facing the consequences of his previous posts on this tread.
We did change our name 2 times, in Europe people use brand names commonly, it's not being blocked as much there as here, so automotive shops use the name of the make they specialize in all the time. We have received a letter from Porsche, and changed our name. It hasn't been done because we are trying to avoid any responsibility or anything like that. So please don't imply we're not trustworthy because of our name change.
We will let you know about the IMS investigation as soon as we will find out. We deal with people in Europe, and even if we will have to dig it out of the ground, we will get it.
Changing the subject, we have touched on this with Raby, but he checked out of this tread after he buried himself with this ignorant comments. If you're such great engineers, why don't you resleeve the cylinders with aluminum instead of steel? Factory uses aluminum blocks for a reason.

More bla, bla, bla, bla, and bla. In the spirit of Christmas, why don't you do something for the 986 Forum besides try to sell something and line your pockets? You've never contributed a single thing here. Nothing. Ever.

[cnavarro]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

QUOTE:"This statement proves to me that you do not know what you are talking about. The larger bearing Porsche went to increased the ball speed, reducing street failures, but increasing track failures. Furthermore, ball bearings like RPM - it has been seen time and time again that cars driven like they were stolen (or at high speeds in Germany) have less IMS failures do to higher engine RPMs. This is just like you rebuilding engines and only sleeving the cylinders that have damage or problems, leaving others unfixed, which will eventually fail. We loose one Motormeister to only be replaced by another."

You statement regarding IMS failure due to driving style is simply false. You implied that these cars get stolen in Germany, and that the thieves drive fast on the Autobahn (and thanks to that they do not fail) is simply a picture of what you and Raby have in your heads.
Both of you push your theories which you have created to people. If you will ever open your eyes, you will realize that Porsches have been fixed in Europe long before you both existed on these forums. We have driven these cars in Europe 300km/h, and the IMS would fail for no reason sometimes. Driving style has nothing to do with it.
We will repeat again, we did not start this conversation about your IMS. Raby's the one who started "sharing" his opinion here on OUR tread. We did not start getting into your business until Raby started attacking us on the forum. We did not just start to talk about your bearing out of the blue, we know you've been selling them for years, and great for you. But when you get into our business, you will have to face the consequences. You're not the only person who can produce a bearing like that, we will prove you wrong. Even if we have to sell it for our costs, we will provide an option for people to buy it for a better price than yours.
Next time maybe you and Raby will learn NOT TO GET IN ANYBODY'S BUSINESS.
He's already facing the consequences of his previous posts on this tread.
We did change our name 2 times, in Europe people use brand names commonly, it's not being blocked as much there as here, so automotive shops use the name of the make they specialize in all the time. We have received a letter from Porsche, and changed our name. It hasn't been done because we are trying to avoid any responsibility or anything like that. So please don't imply we're not trustworthy because of our name change.
We will let you know about the IMS investigation as soon as we will find out. We deal with people in Europe, and even if we will have to dig it out of the ground, we will get it.

Remember, you are the one that made the off hand comment about us and also invited Jake on here by making a pass at him as well. It was other forum members that were asking about your bearing kit and you brought us up. It's only fair that we respond in kind.

Our "theories" are based off of well documented facts about ball bearings and are backed up by data from our bearing manufacturer and others in the field.

Again, I'd like to see where the Germans invented the IMS fix. As far as they were all concerned, there was no problem and no reason to fix it.

We've helped out countless dozens of Porsche dealerships worldwide and helped to rebuild confidence in a whole generation of vehicles that were otherwise considered disposable and resale values reflected this. Not to mention the level of support we provide the aftermarket to ensure the integrity of the brand is upheld.

Jake and I have separate businesses. If you have a beef with Jake, that's fine by me. But attack my brand and my integrity, and I too will reply in kind. I have nothing to hide. Our installations stand over 20,000 strong and we've rebuilt over 1000 engines. I have nothing to prove here.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

People pay you $700 for a bearing that costs you $100 to make....

Can I offer you some unsolicited feedback? This is not a good point to make in the US or Europe. First of all $650 -$700 is not a lot of money for the critical job that is done by this part even if it has to be replaced at an interval. It will cost a lot more than $700 to fix any engine damage because there where short cuts to bring the cost down to $100 or whatever. Secondly, a Porsche owner by and large is a fairly sophisticated consumer and understands that the cost of materials and manufacture is not the only cost. Take for instance the number of educated people who use iPhones. These phones do not cost anywhere near $700 to manufacture but few are saying "F U Apple those guys are ripping us off!! I'm going to buy an Oppo Find 7 or One Plus One for half the price that uses even better hardware". The sophisticated consumer knows that they are buying from a seller in Apple (or Samsung) that has a large knowledge base and have substantial resources to deal with with warranty issues or any other problems that arise. Thirdly, the LNE bearing has a proven track record so in this world that affords a seller the ability to set a price that the market will accept. I'm probably the longest regular poster on this forum (10 years this month). Since the LNE bearing has come out and thousands of retrofits performed I still couldn't point you to one complaint on this forum on any of the other popular Porsche forums. And unlike most aftermarket sellers and devs these guys regularly provide useful information on this subject and the many other ways an m96/7 can fail. This is something important in this era of internet forums for sports cars. Most often is someone has an issue, however trivial, right away some pissed off forum member goes right onto a car forum to start getting back their pound of flesh from the aftermarket seller. Yet this is virtually unheard of for the LNE bearings even after this many retrofits.

So all this taken together, I don't think you're going to find too many people complaining about a $700 part that frees you from the chore and expense of having to remove an engine just to service this one part. I assume Jake Raby and Charles Navarro had a lot to with sparing us all that expense and providing our indys the tools to do these retrofits locally which might be the first time I can think of such a thing ever happening that even the factory making the engines didn't bother to provide at their service shops.

[porsche-land]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

Can I offer you some unsolicited feedback? This is not a good point to make in the US or Europe. First of all $650 -$700 is not a lot of money for the critical job that is done by this part even if it has to be replaced at an interval. It will cost a lot more than $700 to fix any engine damage because there where short cuts to bring the cost down to $100 or whatever. Secondly, a Porsche owner by and large is a fairly sophisticated consumer and understands that the cost of materials and manufacture is not the only cost. Take for instance the number of educated people who use iPhones. These phones do not cost anywhere near $700 to manufacture but few are saying "F U Apple those guys are ripping us off!! I'm going to buy an Oppo Find 7 or One Plus One for half the price that uses even better hardware". The sophisticated consumer knows that they are buying from a seller in Apple (or Samsung) that has a large knowledge base and have substantial resources to deal with with warranty issues or any other problems that arise. Thirdly, the LNE bearing has a proven track record so in this world that affords a seller the ability to set a price that the market will accept. I'm probably the longest regular poster on this forum (10 years this month). Since the LNE bearing has come out and thousands of retrofits performed I still couldn't point you to one complaint on this forum on any of the other popular Porsche forums. And unlike most aftermarket sellers and devs these guys regularly provide useful information on this subject and the many other ways an m96/7 can fail. This is something important in this era of internet forums for sports cars. Most often is someone has an issue, however trivial, right away some pissed off forum member goes right onto a car forum to start getting back their pound of flesh from the aftermarket seller. Yet this is virtually unheard of for the LNE bearings even after this many retrofits.

So all this taken together, I don't think you're going to find too many people complaining about a $700 part that frees you from the chore and expense of having to remove an engine just to service this one part. I assume Jake Raby and Charles Navarro had a lot to with sparing us all that expense and providing our indys the tools to do these retrofits locally which might be the first time I can think of such a thing ever happening that even the factory making the engines didn't bother to provide at their service shops.

We did not start attacking Raby or LN, if you read the tread from the start it explains itself. We do not care what, or for how much other people sell their products, as long as they stay out of our business. If they were 100% sure of their market, they would not attack other people. Nobody asked them to review our IMS in the first place.

[BYprodriver]

LN Engineering "Nickies" sleeves are aluminum.

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

We did not start attacking Raby or LN, if you read the tread from the start it explains itself. We do not care what, or for how much other people sell their products, as long as they stay out of our business. If they were 100% sure of their market, they would not attack other people. Nobody asked them to review our IMS in the first place.

See, I thought you were just "stupid" when I saw you named your company Porsche-land. Then I changed that opinion to "an idiot" when you changed your company name again to Forsche-land. But now, after you keep taking the bait, I don't know what to do, other than just laugh. This is really entertaining.

[porsche-land]

Originally Posted by Flavor 987S

See, I thought you were just "stupid" when I saw you named your company Porsche-land. Then I changed that opinion to "an idiot" when you changed your company name again to Forsche-land. But now, after you keep taking the bait, I don't know what to do, other than just laugh. This is really entertaining.

Dude, we already told you to come and talk to us in person instead of posting online...Looks like you do not have the balls for it. You're a real ass...and other forum members already know it. If you can't stand that someone else stuffs their pockets, than just get a better job and make some $ on your own...Then, you will be less envious!
We have to disappoint you, we have sold 2 engines today. Your hates just give us more business, so thanks!

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

Dude, we already told you to come and talk to us in person instead of posting online...Looks like you do not have the balls for it. You're a real ass...and other forum members already know it. If you can't stand that someone else stuffs their pockets, than just get a better job and make some $ on your own...Then, you will be less envious!
We have to disappoint you, we have sold 2 engines today. Your hates just give us more business, so thanks!

Oh, so now you want to threaten me, and fight me? Where was all your key-board testosterone back in June when I asked you properly in a PM for a contact name? And you invited me for coffee, not to talk. What kind of coffee do you have? I'm very picky.

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

Dude/ you do not have the balls for it./ You're a real ass

Professional vernacular.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by porsche-land

We did not start attacking Raby or LN, if you read the tread from the start it explains itself. We do not care what, or for how much other people sell their products, as long as they stay out of our business. If they were 100% sure of their market, they would not attack other people. Nobody asked them to review our IMS in the first place.

My statement has nothing to do with this spirited debate you are engaged with LNE/Flat6. I am merely providing IMS customer feedback on your point about cost to manufacture vs. retail cost. $700 is well within my checking account tolerances.
I'm guessing others agree if the preponderance of IMS units in service since the Pelican options (and others) became available continue to come from LNE despite their higher cost to purchase.