Good times! :)

Yes, I'm sure his senorita is impressed right about now. I bet he wished he'd stayed home, smoked crack and banged his head.


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LOL yes im sure he wishes he did that right about the moment that horn went up his ass.

You know - I'll side just a bit with Z... If I had the choice, I'd do these moves in my buddies ride more then in my own.

But I guess that I was born with a little PWT blood, cause nothing makes me giggle more then seeing a crazy Brit turn 360s top down in a M Roadster. There just isn't any better television then this.

- C5150

lol...yeah and I like how he is just casually talking and looking to the camera when he's doing the moves. Most people would be hanging on for dear life but not Tiff!

HA! No doubt. I've never seen a fella so calm as his car flips round and round. This guy is freaking nutz - he's got to be the coolest Brit I've ever seen. Only thing that would make him better would be a crazy Austrian accent.

it is pretty amazing how he drives. if you look at a video where hes powersliding the S, he actually looses control couse of talking, he even said it...pretty funny

In conclusion, all the giddy responses about sliding videos like this only confirm that "cool" trumps substance, and that corporations will always choose "cool" to sell more of their stuff -- especially when "cool" directly contributes to more sales, like tires in this case.

Imagine Tiff, wearing a helmet (like he should), paying attention to the track (like he should), holding the wheel with both hands (like he should), and driving to maximize the abilities of the high-performance car he is driving (i.e. minimize showy sliding) -- then he would be much faster and safer (while promoting proper technique for maximum speed and safety to the audience) BUT he would be much less "cool" and have a much smaller audience. And that doesn't sell well.

Personally, I buy high-performance gear (car, skis, etc) to use it the way it was meant to be used. If I wanted my skis and cars to slide, I would buy the crappiest gear and slide my ass off for a fraction of the money and at a fraction of the speed. But that's me.

Z.

I wouldn't be so fast to say that "cool" trumps substance - there is certainly some substance in being a driver so talented at the wheel, that you can safely flip 360s in a high performance ride.

And yes - this video was designed to sell tires. So what? If you ran a company that sold tires, wouldn't you try to increase sales by promoting "cool?" If I were a stock holder in your company, I sure as hell would hope you would.

I do want to add that the last thing this video makes me want to do is burn up my tires in my Box. I enjoy the performance driving more - personal preference. But this is great tv.

- C5150

I don't question Tiff's abilities. I can see how it could be "great tv" to watch. What I question is what he is DOING. Someone having a bull horn rammed up their ass is also great TV (thx, Grizz, I laughed out loud) but that doesn't mean it'd be fun or advisable to do it yourself.

Companies can try to sell anything they want in any way they want. Doesn't mean I have to buy their product or the way they are selling it.

I'm glad we agree on burning tires vs performance.

Z.

well the point of the video is not to show u fastest way around the track (like you should), but to show u slides and doughnuts...so you can do what you want with it.
i am sure that he can take turns fast around th track, hense a lot of peoples suspicions that he is the Stig....so i duno, driveing skills are the same

I was referring also to many other video reviews of cars by this guy and others. This particular video was just the straw that broke my camel's back, so to speak. I remember couple of months ago there was a link posted here of a video of some German magazine guy "testing" a Carrera GT on some road. He was slipping and sliding all over the place -- of course, while speaking to a camera, driving with one hand, and not wearing a helmet, as any self-respecting "cool" and "skilled" driver would. The consesus opinions usually is that it was "cool" and that he was very good. For some reason, by consensus, that's considered to be a characteristic of skilled driving. I just find it amazing how sticky that myth -- perpetuated by magazines and movies -- really is with the public in general.

Z.