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Heiko 10-16-2014 01:19 PM

New Fabspeed Maxflow
 
Well after lots of looking around and much contemplating which exhaust to buy or to stick with the stock exhaust, I bit the bullet today and ordered a new Maxflow from Fabspeed :) Of course I had to order it so hopefully by Nov Thanksgiving I will get this baby mounted :)

I'll post pics when it arrives although I might not be able to do any video/soundclips until the spring depending on the weather :confused:

Porsche 986 Boxster Maxflo Performance Exhaust System - Fabspeed Motorsport

trimer 10-16-2014 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heiko (Post 421899)
Well after lots of looking around and much contemplating which exhaust to buy or to stick with the stock exhaust, I bit the bullet today and ordered a new Maxflow from Fabspeed :) Of course I had to order it so hopefully by Nov Thanksgiving I will get this baby mounted :)

I'll post pics when it arrives although I might not be able to do any video/soundclips until the spring depending on the weather :confused:

Porsche 986 Boxster Maxflo Performance Exhaust System - Fabspeed Motorsport

Greatest thing I ever did to one of my cars. Congrats. The noise is absolutely heaven and worth every single penny...

jaykay 10-16-2014 04:55 PM

Let me know when you get it....so I can come by and drool!

Heiko 10-16-2014 05:47 PM

Thank you :-) amazing that a little thing like a muffler can make it feel like an
early Christmas :-) (actually its better than Christmas lol)

Jay you are certainly invited to come hear the music :) actually you can actually 'face the music' if you want you don't have to look away hahahaha

Trimer; I kept hearing that same statement several times now and from what I understand this new latest revision's sound just compliments the car perfectly :)

H

trimer 10-16-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Heiko (Post 421942)
Thank you :-) amazing that a little thing like a muffler can make it feel like an
early Christmas :-) (actually its better than Christmas lol)

Jay you are certainly invited to come hear the music :) actually you can actually 'face the music' if you want you don't have to look away hahahaha

Trimer; I kept hearing that same statement several times now and from what I understand this new latest revision's sound just compliments the car perfectly :)

H

I am putting one on my 996. I can't wait!

Heiko 10-16-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by trimer (Post 421943)
I am putting one on my 996. I can't wait!

:) Due to the different layout of the exhaust on the 996 it will probably sound much different than on the 986... Post a sound clip when you get it done :)

steved0x 10-16-2014 06:33 PM

I think somebody on here had the sport cat headers for sale too...

Heiko 10-16-2014 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by steved0x (Post 421949)
I think somebody on here had the sport cat headers for sale too...

They would be nice, maybe I'll add those next year plus a remap.... Unless I can find a really good deal before that :)

BTfd2e93 10-16-2014 08:27 PM

amazing exhaust fabspeed .....love it to bits. i have the early generation of the maxflo ....
i think with the new model, you have even better sound ....cos they have higher rpm before resonance.

bwillia080261 10-20-2014 07:58 AM

What other brands did you look at before deciding?

Heiko 10-20-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bwillia080261 (Post 422252)
What other brands did you look at before deciding?

Billy Boat, Manzo, Circuit Works, Remus and Borla...
The new Maxflo seemed to come most highly recommended; and one of the selling features to me was the 2" diameter pipe all the way from the header mating flange to the back, so when I eventually swap out the headers, the entire system will be 2". The sound and the finish of the exhaust also seems to be pretty good.... overall hard to beat.
H

Heiko 11-20-2014 06:02 AM

Oh look what came in the mail today... too bad we're drowning in snow and the car is put away for the winter :mad:

I'll post some pics of the new muffler soon!
H

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1416495770.jpg

Heiko 11-26-2014 07:12 AM

I finally got around to unpacking the box...
took some pics...


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BruceH 11-26-2014 07:38 AM

Beautiful! Can't wait to hear how you like it!

Heiko 04-18-2015 06:50 PM

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Well the new exhaust went on today and I have to say, so far I'm happy having spent the extra on money. The fit is perfect and the sound is great... very happy with this purchase. Took me about 2hours for the complete job but I spent about 30min tinkering getting the height just right for the bracket as I had to compensate for the GT3TEK diffuser :) Anyhow it all turned out good.
I added a cheesy video... sorry its not great quality but you get the idea in sound difference.
https://youtu.be/1HOQ80jW3uA

H

KRAM36 04-18-2015 09:34 PM

Looks great and sound nice! I just can't justify the $2,295.00 price, plus the shipping cost.

After I get my headers and secondary cat delete pipes on, I'm going to run with my current Crios modded stock muffler to see how it sounds, then I'll go with the Borla muffler.

Heiko 04-19-2015 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KRAM36 (Post 445624)
Looks great and sound nice! I just can't justify the $2,295.00 price, plus the shipping cost.

After I get my headers and secondary cat delete pipes on, I'm going to run with my current Crios modded stock muffler to see how it sounds, then I'll go with the Borla muffler.

I was looking at the Borla exhaust myself and at half the price it was a good deal; the only thing that kept me away from it was the drone at cruising speed; I seriously think the drone comes from the upper mounting point as some exhausts bolt directly to the transmission bracket with welded brackets where the Fabspeed utilizes the upper mounting brace of the stock exhaust which has two dampened mounts on either end. I'm sure if one was to make up a dampening plate between
the transmission and the other exhausts, a lot of the drone complaints would vanish.
H

Dualist 04-19-2015 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Heiko (Post 445645)
I'm sure if one was to make up a dampening plate between
the transmission and the other exhausts, a lot of the drone complaints would vanish.
H

Nah it won't, I've tried that and also added a cross over on the exit too to try and get rid of the drone and it's still bad. I'm going to try something else later this year and hope that works.

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...106_164648.jpg

Your Fabspeed exhaust looks really nice and sound epic too, I'ld love to know how it's piped up inside. :D

EJ-Fresno 04-19-2015 06:48 AM

Wow, that's a really impressive sound!

Heiko 04-19-2015 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dualist (Post 445656)
Nah it won't, I've tried that and also added a cross over on the exit too to try and get rid of the drone and it's still bad. I'm going to try something else later this year and hope that works.

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...106_164648.jpg

Your Fabspeed exhaust looks really nice and sound epic too, I'ld love to know how it's piped up inside. :D

Interesting, I would have thought that would make a difference... let me know what you find in your trials and modification. yes I'm impressed with the sound and its certainly a distinct tone. I could shove the snake cam inside and see what it looks like and try to make a video :)

BruceH 04-19-2015 05:28 PM

That looks and sounds great, very nice:cheers:

KRAM36 04-19-2015 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dualist (Post 445656)
Nah it won't, I've tried that and also added a cross over on the exit too to try and get rid of the drone and it's still bad. I'm going to try something else later this year and hope that works.

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/y...106_164648.jpg

Your Fabspeed exhaust looks really nice and sound epic too, I'ld love to know how it's piped up inside. :D

If that's a Borla exhaust I've never seen it. The Borla muffler I'm buying looks like this.

http://i57.tinypic.com/9jhnhf.jpg

As for you're "drone" issue, have you looked at Bruce's fix?

http://986forum.com/forums/324664-post15.html

This Borla muffler sounds good to me on a 04 Boxster S!

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KRAM36 04-19-2015 08:16 PM

Are those NHP Headers on your car?

Also, damn your car is clean underneath.

http://986forum.com/forums/attachmen...w-img_1613.jpg

911monty 04-19-2015 08:43 PM

Don't mean to hijack the thread but, I have a question to any long term Fabspeed owners out there. What is the life expectancy for the wire wrapped section of the pipes? I ask because I looked recently at a 2006 Base Boxster with 130,000 mi and the wire wrapped section had a hole blown out. The exhaust was installed by the previous owner, but the current owner claimed it was a trouble free car w/3 years and 70k miles with no maintenance performed........:barf:

Heiko 04-20-2015 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRAM36 (Post 445801)
Are those NHP Headers on your car?

Also, damn your car is clean underneath.

http://986forum.com/forums/attachmen...w-img_1613.jpg

No just the stock headers for now... at least this way there is no CEL issues as the pre/post O2 sensors are kept in place in their original location; But from the flange back its all Fabspeed :) Thanks by the way, its not easy to keep it clean under there, but I try :)

Heiko 04-20-2015 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911monty (Post 445810)
Don't mean to hijack the thread but, I have a question to any long term Fabspeed owners out there. What is the life expectancy for the wire wrapped section of the pipes? I ask because I looked recently at a 2006 Base Boxster with 130,000 mi and the wire wrapped section had a hole blown out. The exhaust was installed by the previous owner, but the current owner claimed it was a trouble free car w/3 years and 70k miles with no maintenance performed........:barf:

I wish i had have taken a picture before hand, but the inside of the mesh is lined with another flex pipe and its all stainless. They use the same material on many VW's, Audi's etc from the header pipe down... and yes they often break after 100K and have to be replaced - but at the same time they ease installation, reduce vibration transfer and allow some flexibility to ease stress on fixed mountpoints...
I know the VW ones generally go after about 150,000kms but they sell clamp in replacements for about $60 so its not that bad. I'm sure these wont be quite that cheap, but if they last 50,000 miles i'll be good for another 15 years :)

Dlirium 04-20-2015 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRAM36 (Post 445784)
If that's a Borla exhaust I've never seen it. The Borla muffler I'm buying looks like this.

http://i57.tinypic.com/9jhnhf.jpg

As for you're "drone" issue, have you looked at Bruce's fix?

http://986forum.com/forums/324664-post15.html

This Borla muffler sounds good to me on a 04 Boxster S!

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/78yWX9buGSU?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I have this same Borla system on my 2000 S, drones like a maddog! Lots of great burble and popping. HOWEVER, when I installed the Top Speed test pipes (secondary cat deletes), the volume and drone were both significantly lowered! Makes them quite livable, and I can get away with a 92db day at Laguna Seca :-)

KRAM36 04-20-2015 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heiko (Post 445854)
No just the stock headers for now... at least this way there is no CEL issues as the pre/post O2 sensors are kept in place in their original location; But from the flange back its all Fabspeed :) Thanks by the way, its not easy to keep it clean under there, but I try :)

I was curious. I have to go with the NHP headers because I have a Tiptronic trans. They have a set with 200 cell cats and will not trigger a CEL and no modifications needed to work with a Tip trans.

Porsche Boxster 986 / S NHP 200 Cells Exhaust Headers - Maxspeed-Motorsports

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dlirium (Post 445857)
I have this same Borla system on my 2000 S, drones like a maddog! Lots of great burble and popping. HOWEVER, when I installed the Top Speed test pipes (secondary cat deletes), the volume and drone were both significantly lowered! Makes them quite livable, and I can get away with a 92db day at Laguna Seca :-)

I am going with secondary cat delete pipes from Circuit Werks. You've raced your Boxster at Laguna Seca?

F18febe 04-24-2015 09:18 AM

Heiko,
I sent you a PM because I want to get this same exhaust. I have a couple questions for you.

Heiko 05-23-2015 12:18 PM

Thought I'd post of couple of the video's of the Fabspeed from outside the car.
Very happy with what the guys at Fabspeed produce :-)
Heiko


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvBT6IM_Jds&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2XXhbO0wkI&feature=youtu.be

tommy583 05-25-2015 07:18 PM

Sounds Great!! :cheers:

Heiko 09-04-2015 12:54 PM

Well a quick update on my Fabspeed Exhaust.

I've been very happy with the sound and look - BUT

I've been trying to chase down a small exhaust leak which seems to be difficult as I could only hear it when the exhaust is very hot... as soon as the car sits and idles for 20sec the sound is gone (yes strange) anyhow I think I found it today (as it seems to be getting noisier now). The right side flex piece in the mid-section pipe has a leak and is turning brown and the left side is still like new :mad:

I know Fabspeed is known for their quality, so I'm a bit disappointed, but at the same time I know that these things happen. Before getting upset I have emailed Fabspeed and have asked what they can do to rectify the problem. No response yet but hopefully they will have an acceptable solution.
I've only driven approx. 1420 miles since the install so this should definitely not have happened. I will keep you posted as to what they say and or do.

Heiko


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Pnut 12-11-2015 04:39 AM

How did this work out for you in the end? My understanding is there is a lifetime warranty on their stuff.

Pnut 02-17-2016 04:29 PM

Any update on how Fabspeed treated your situation?

F18febe 02-17-2016 06:06 PM

Fabspeed exhaust leak resolved
 
I bought Fabspeed's maxflow exhaust for my 04 S as well as the their headers. After installing, I noticed an exhaust leak that got louder over time. I tracked it down to where the header meets the manifold. I called Fabspeed and they said that I needed their manifold gaskets because they are thicker than the OEM gaskets, so I ordered them. I put them on and the leak was still there. And it got louder over time. Called Fabspeed back and they said to send the header back to them, and so I did. Once I took the header off, I could see the black marks where the leak was occuring. I also laid a ruler across the top of the header and noticed that there was a gap on the forward end of the gasket. I sent it off to Fabspeed and they said that it was within specs and that it should be fine with their gasket and sent it back to me. I put it back on the car and the leak was still there. I called Fabspeed back and they insisted that the header was within spec and that if I used some Thermosteel that it would seal it right up. So, I tried that and it didn't work. Same leak. I called them back and they finally gave in and told me to send the header back, for a third time, and that they would cut the flange off and put a new one on. So, 4 months after this started, I got my header back and the leak it now gone!!! I love the exhaust because it sounds fantastic and it looks cool, too; the parts that can be seen anyway.
Would I buy this exhaust again? I think so. I thought Fabspeed handled my situation nicely but I wish I didn't have to wait so long to get it resolved. I shipped them the header three times. The car is stored for the winter right now but I can't wait to get it back on the road. The last time I had the car at the dealership, to get a key reprogrammed, there were two 911s in the bay and after pulling my car in, 4 guys came over to my car because they noticed the sound of the exhaust and said, "wow, we don't hear that sound in here too often".
In a few weeks, I will put my new to me 18" Cayman S wheels on, install a Cold Air Intake, IPD plenum and 74mm Throttle Body. I am looking forward to Spring time. Below is a pic of my new GT3 projector headlights minus the corner trim pieces. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1455764457.jpg

Heiko 02-18-2016 07:37 AM

I was dealing with the General Manager at Fabspeed (Alex) who was very helpful. I shipped the mid pipes down to them and they welded in two brand new flex pieces and shipped them back to me no charge. I haven't been able to warm the car up enough to see if they leak yet as the car is stored until spring. I sure hope the leak is gone!!!
H

Dlirium 02-18-2016 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRAM36 (Post 445891)


I am going with secondary cat delete pipes from Circuit Werks. You've raced your Boxster at Laguna Seca?

Lol, just saw this. yes - been on LS quite a few times with the Boxster and one time with the Pantera! Hoping to get at least 2 track days in this year at LS as well in the Boxster.

coreseller 02-20-2016 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F18febe (Post 484218)
I bought Fabspeed's maxflow exhaust for my 04 S as well as the their headers. After installing, I noticed an exhaust leak that got louder over time. I tracked it down to where the header meets the manifold. I called Fabspeed and they said that I needed their manifold gaskets because they are thicker than the OEM gaskets, so I ordered them. I put them on and the leak was still there. And it got louder over time. Called Fabspeed back and they said to send the header back to them, and so I did. Once I took the header off, I could see the black marks where the leak was occuring. I also laid a ruler across the top of the header and noticed that there was a gap on the forward end of the gasket. I sent it off to Fabspeed and they said that it was within specs and that it should be fine with their gasket and sent it back to me. I put it back on the car and the leak was still there. I called Fabspeed back and they insisted that the header was within spec and that if I used some Thermosteel that it would seal it right up. So, I tried that and it didn't work. Same leak. I called them back and they finally gave in and told me to send the header back, for a third time, and that they would cut the flange off and put a new one on. So, 4 months after this started, I got my header back and the leak it now gone!!! I love the exhaust because it sounds fantastic and it looks cool, too; the parts that can be seen anyway.
Would I buy this exhaust again? I think so. I thought Fabspeed handled my situation nicely but I wish I didn't have to wait so long to get it resolved. I shipped them the header three times. The car is stored for the winter right now but I can't wait to get it back on the road. The last time I had the car at the dealership, to get a key reprogrammed, there were two 911s in the bay and after pulling my car in, 4 guys came over to my car because they noticed the sound of the exhaust and said, "wow, we don't hear that sound in here too often".
In a few weeks, I will put my new to me 18" Cayman S wheels on, install a Cold Air Intake, IPD plenum and 74mm Throttle Body. I am looking forward to Spring time. Below is a pic of my new GT3 projector headlights minus the corner trim pieces. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1455764457.jpg




It's great to read this, I am awaiting a delivery from Fabspeed and have heard nothing but positive things about them. Prior to placing my order I spoke to John G. there, seemed like a very good guy. Will keep this post updated per my experience.

Chuck W. 02-22-2016 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F18febe (Post 484218)
I thought Fabspeed handled my situation nicely but I wish I didn't have to wait so long to get it resolved. I shipped them the header three times.

Man, you are one nice guy. I was getting upset just reading your story. IMHO, they should have taken care of you the first time you sent them in. The second time was a no brainer... three times is just poor customer service. That said, I am glad it worked out for you.

Pnut 02-22-2016 02:24 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys - much appreciated. Shame that the 986 has the flex piping and the 987 and on stuff doesn't. Never did understand that.

If either of you don't mind, did you buy direct from Fabspeed or use a third-party reseller? If the latter, which one?

Thx.


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