Oil filter contents 40 miles after IMS failure repair

[particlewave]

Great work James

I agree: why would you "send it in" or have someone else clean parts when you are clearly capable of doing it yourself? Hopefully, the engine will still live
We are all professionals if we choose to put in the effort.

Again, great work James!

[Jake Raby]

Well, guess what? We are all professionals if we choose to put in the effort

Yep, till things don't work out perfectly and its not all Unicorns and rainbows.

James did a great job, he attempted something that most professionals will shy away from and few that attempt it will have an outcome as good as what his has been so far.

Nothing is ever clean enough, when I shelled out the big bucks for my Ultrasonic I was happy to spend the money, and now we are buying two more. You should see the debris that we pull out of the filters of that unit, and its stuff that would have never been removed any other way. Its not just the Ultrasonic capability, its the solution and the 170-200 degrees of heat that the solution is heated to that makes it all work so well.

[particlewave]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Yep, till things don't work out perfectly and its not all Unicorns and rainbows.

Yeah, then you try again until you get it right.
I know you don't give up that easy?

Edit: didn't see that bit about the oil pump. Will the magnet suffice to catch the rest?

[Jake Raby]

didn't see that bit about the oil pump.

People don't consider how the system works, because most have never studied it enough, or first hand.

Yeah, then you try again until you get it right.

Or until you go broke. No matter how many times something is done, it doesn't make a difference and doesn't mean you are "owed" that it work. I had one person tell me "I have been inside this engine 5 times and can't find the problem". My response was that the engine owes you nothing, you can take it apart 100 times and still have issues if you don't find the smoking gun.

I know you don't give up that easy?

We never quit and we never give up, the only difference is the mistakes that a developer makes are write offs. We are suppose to blow it up and break it, so other people don't have to.

Repairing these engines will make someone either a hero, or a zero. There's no in between and as soon as someone fills the role of a professional by accepting the challenge, they must assume all of the good and all of the bad that comes with that.

You'll not get any sympathy from me if you pt it together and it has problems. I'll welcome you to my world and ask you if you'd like to deal with those issues every day, all day long and have every engine that you touch come to you failed and usually scattered all over the road.

[Jamesp]

It's not the destination, its the journey. There is only one way to know something and that is to do it. If this engine blows, the forum will get the autopsy, ill have learned more, and I'll simply replace it with an engine with a little more umph.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by Jamesp

It's not the destination, its the journey. There is only one way to know something and that is to do it. If this engine blows, the forum will get the autopsy, ill have learned more, and I'll simply replace it with an engine with a little more umph.

Thats the right attitude to have. Failures are often opportunities to some of us.

You'll probably be ok with it as is, just change the hell out of the oil, clean the sump like a mad man, use the SPOFA and a filter mag, and throw a cow magnet in the sump. Do that till you don't find any more debris and then always do short service intervals on this one, of 3K or so.

[Walter White]

Low budget metal detector. Having a removable plastic oil filter cover sure does allow some innovation.



I know what I am doing tomorrow.

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by Walter White

Low budget metal detector. Having a removable plastic oil filter cover sure does allow some innovation.



I know what I am doing tomorrow.

It would ne nice to pick up debris before it goes through the oil filter

[Jake Raby]

Been there.. The issue is the vortex of oil inside the filter and the high pressure that washes the contaminants off the magnets if it collects.

The sump is the only place where an MCD is effective. Trust me on that. I only have about 3 years of my life invested in it. You'll also have one hell of a time sealing it from leakage.

[rp17]

Stay at it James. I like the idea of helping those who try to help themselves. Thats what this forum is about... or should be. Can't help you here but rooting for you.

[Walter White]

There's no substitute for some brushes, solvent, flashlight, a good eye and lots of elbow grease. Enjoy your ride James.

[Jamesp]

Less material and of a finer particle size than 40 miles. The oil itself looked new as might be expected. I did find some interesting results. Clearly rare earth magnets pull very fine iron particles out of the oil if strapped to the oil filter.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by Jamesp

Less material and of a finer particle size than 40 miles. The oil itself looked new as might be expected. I did find some interesting results. Clearly rare earth magnets pull very fine iron particles out of the oil if strapped to the oil filter.

Hence why the filter mag was developed in WWII!

Can't believe how many people have never heard of one :-)

[jb92563]

It seems like the Spin on filter and a Filtermag should be good investment in helping our $15K engines live a long and happy life.

Thanks Jake for the tip on this.

Not having heard I did some research and found this simple example enlightening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCimcP-i7bY&feature=player_detailpage

http://www.shopfiltermag.com/gallery.php

I think I was reading somewhere that the stock filters do not filter 100% due to a bypass of the filter element for some reason.

I already have a magnetic oil drain plug but the filter mag and spin on filter seem like more good ideas for little investment and effort.

Low cost/high return in preventative maintenance should be a no brainer.