Lessons learned?: Buying a "used low mileage engine"....

[Brucelee]

I locked the original thread. The back and forth behind the scenes is not something that I want to get into. Suffice it to say, there is controversy and disagreement.

The best take away here is not big news.

1-Be VERY VERY careful buying ANYTHING used, esp an engine.

2-Be very very careful who you place your trust in when you dish out the kind of money that an engine rebuild entails.

Due diligence is ALWAYS recommended in these matters and that can rarely be done over the Internet.

So, again, no flamming or name calling please.

Jake, I just wanted to say thanks for sharing this info with us. I've been in the shoes of needing a replacement engine, and when you're facing a huge financial decision like this, information like yours helps.

I also want to thank the board owners, who, have created a place where we can learn about, and hopefully avoid the major pitfalls and expenses associated with an engine failure.

Thanks again

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by Fred Demara

Jake, I just wanted to say thanks for sharing this info with us. I've been in the shoes of needing a replacement engine, and when you're facing a huge financial decision like this, information like yours helps.

I also want to thank the board owners, who, have created a place where we can learn about, and hopefully avoid the major pitfalls and expenses associated with an engine failure.

Thanks again

My hats off to Jake also; good work, as always.

And thanks Fred. We do try and it is nice to be acknowledged.

As I have said many times before, we have the best members on any forum I have ever been a part of.

[Jake Raby]

I also want to thank the board owners, who, have created a place where we can learn about, and hopefully avoid the major pitfalls and expenses associated with an engine failure.

I want to thank them as well, they do a great job.

In appreciation for this we'll keep all the "information" about this engine thats not mechanical off the topics of this thread or any others here.

The rest of the details are not of any concern to the others here and will only create drama that no one needs.

All that matters right now is getting Phil back on the track, we'll worry about the other details later.

[Brucelee]

Phil feels the need for speed.

Go Phil!

[pcs5978]

If you're going to buy a used M96 to replace your blown one, make sure to get the VIN from the car it came out of and the engine case # BEFORE YOU BUY IT. With the VIN you then call your local Porsche Dealership and confirm that the car it came from was indeed delivered with the engine case you are buying. Having the VIN and working forward to get the engine case # is easy. Having the engine case # and working backward to get the VIN is hard.

With the VIN you can then get various reports, on-line, that will provide information about the history of car and the motor came from. It'll tell you if the car it came out of was stolen, track registration history, track milage history, on-line sales efforts, service facilities used , and establish any salvage titles. Call the places that serviced the car, and with the VIN, confirm milage and what was done to the engine.

If the engine seller doesn't have the VIN and the engine case number or won't provide the numbers, walk away. If you are buying on line, make them send you pictures of the engine case numbers and the stampings on the head and cam covers. And by all means if the motor show's up at your doorstep and the engine numbers are different from the one you bought, demand your money back. The price of shipping is cheap.

I didn't just pick these recommendations out of the air. This comes from leaning a very hard and expensive lesson!

[Jake Raby]

Some new details today..
The story has gone full circle. Its going to get really good, really soon!

Howdy Phantom!

[Frodo]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Phil feels the need for speed.

Go Phil!

I'm sure crios will slam me for 'ripping' the thread, but I couldn't resist...

Go Phil(lies)!

[Jake Raby]

The behind the scenes work and investigating has paid off.. I guess the Phantom didn't expect Phil and I to take the time out of our busy days to trace every ounce of this engines prior history..

He made several mistakes, one bigger than all the rest.. Just wait till you read this chapter of the book!

how were you able to trace the engines history? is there a vin on the engine?

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

The behind the scenes work and investigating has paid off.. I guess the Phantom didn't expect Phil and I to take the time out of our busy days to trace every ounce of this engines prior history..

He made several mistakes, one bigger than all the rest.. Just wait till you read this chapter of the book!