Blown Engine 550 Spyder AE - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

23109VC · 09-29-2008, 09:51 AM

be glad you are under warranty and they are giving you a nice loaner.

us "off warranty" guys cringe every time we see a thread like this....

bad luck to have it happen - but it's better it happened NOW than in 11 more days....

Brucelee · 09-29-2008, 10:17 AM

Pretty astounding this is still going on.

Please keep us posted.

RandallNeighbour · 09-29-2008, 10:25 AM

Pismo, just ask the dealer to show you paperwork showing the type of motor ordered and received for the car.

It does not benefit the dealer to put a different motor in your car. In fact, it would be more work they would not be paid for considering every motor has a computer setup and your ECU is not going to be swapped out.

FTD · 09-29-2008, 10:37 AM

Wow. You have GOT to be so thankful this happened while still under the warranty umbrella. Whew!

Pismo · 10-03-2008, 08:56 PM

The autopsy revealed a failed intermediate shaft. Service Rep assures me I’m getting exactly the same engine installed Monday but it may not be finished until mid week. The Rep would not say what the warranty will be on the engine. He says the warranty won’t go beyond the original warranty. The original warranty expires Oct. 4th… this seems wrong. Anyone have this sort of experience?
In 10 minutes I'm out of warranty

Jake Raby · 10-04-2008, 12:59 PM

First off, the BS that Pismo is about to encounter is THE problem with a warranty. I hope someone he interfaces with has some sense and recognizes that he had a problem while the engine was under warranty. That's not the case in most instances as when the clock strikes midnight the prince turns into a frog immediately.

Secondly, I do own a Boxster and this is not an effort that's been done as a sideline from our aircooled efforts. I have expanded capabilities to support the M96 efforts including a new and totally separate facility to do the M96 development, assembly and testing. This side of my house will also be developing and building the M96 365 days a year, and this has already begun.

Many people have missed the point concerning the goals of our program as at the present our goals are to create the components to all ow local shops to do rebuilds and updates for stock engines. These shops will be trained how to use our tools and updated components here at our facility and as we release updates and revisions these dealers will receive them.

Our focus here until Porsche cancels the engine replacement program will be creating what Porsche won't and that's a performance M96 engine. The stock rebuilds are not our focus bit we are offering them. When I speak on the warranty subject most of my responses aimed toward performance applications.

Thus far those who have purchased engines have not been very concerned with warranty, be it a stock or performance engine. This very informative post has helped me to realize that I will need to incorporate some alternate warranty for the engines
and I will work on this ASAP. I am very confident in the program and the components and have issues with a written guarantee for a certain amount of time but there will be limitations and conditions and these will be very clear and the document will be posted on the website. Engines that we install and test will have different terms and conditions than those that are shipped. Watch my site for updates on this topic.

All in all we want to see the car and we want to install our engine when ever possible. The life of the engine being in someone elses hands is not something I fancy, especially in these first few years of the program when every eye is on what we create with great skepticism.

For clarification: Unlike the aircooled side of the house the M96 divisions doors will be open for car drop off or pick up or regular retail sales, and chassis dyno services
beginning 1/09. This was the entire reason that I am adding the new facility onto the property.

The driving force behind most businesses that are successful is to generate capital. What lured me onto the M96 scene 3 years ago was the problems with the engine and the fact that it was misunderstood and mysterious. These are the same things that lured me to the 914 engine as all I appreciate is a true challenge.

Jake Raby · 09-30-2008, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Pretty astounding this is still going on.

Please keep us posted.

Not suprised at all.

It will continue to occur, engine failures are still happening.. Most of them never make it to the net.

I doubt you have to worry about getting theproper engine, but a trip to a chassis dyno would be a good way to quantify what you do get.

Be glad this happened under warranty, most of the people that call me don't get this lucky... Always remember that even the replacement engine that you get is not immune to future failures, those occur as well.

RandallNeighbour · 09-30-2008, 07:51 AM

Just heard the new boxster will get the all-new motor that won't have the same issues as our motors have now. I bet they'll have different catastrophic problems though :ah:

Mr. Raby, you will be in business for a very long time, guaranteed!

blinkwatt · 09-30-2008, 10:54 AM

Is the extra power the engine or other things like the 987 style intake?

Pismo · 09-30-2008, 11:29 AM

Does anyone have a source to find the differences between the standard S motor and 550 AE? Sometimes mistakes are made and corners are cut. I'm a "Trust but verify..." kind of person.
I don't think I can say I could tell a 258 HP motor from a 264 by the seat of my pants in normal driving and I've found Dynos come up with substantial differences in what are supposed to be identical motors. At an MBCA dyno pull, 3 stock well maintained '91 190E 2.6s had a spread of over 15 HP on what are supposed to be 158 HP motors.
Based on Jake's remarks I am now looking towards getting an extended warranty, any suggestions? The car's original warranty expires Oct. 4th.

edevlin · 09-30-2008, 11:38 AM

"Just heard the new boxster will get the all-new motor that won't have the same issues as our motors have now. I bet they'll have different catastrophic problems though."

Whats the word on the new Boxster engine, DFI or what?

Ed

RandallNeighbour · 09-30-2008, 11:58 AM

Pismo, ask your service advisor at the Pcar dealership which aftermarket warranty gives them the least hassle and pays out the most consistently. In fact, call a half dozen Pcar dealerships' service department and ask.

Some will tell you they're great to have, others say put the $2000-3000 of cash you pay for one in the bank and save it and you may never spend that much on the car for the time you own it.

ed, rumor has it the next boxsterS/caymanS motor will have DFI and no intermediate shaft. However, I think the base models still have the old motor. Not totally sure on this, but I seem to remember reading it somewhere.