Thanks Trump

[maytag]

296k jobs.
3.6% unemployment.
Lowest since December 1969.
In 45 days, we'll be in the longest- lasting economic expansion in our nation's history.

It's pretty hard to argue with some of this stuff.
If only we could keep him away from Twitter. And cameras. I don't remember a politician who spent more time cramming both feet into his mouth.

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[piper6909]

Originally Posted by maytag

296k jobs.
3.6% unemployment.
Lowest since December 1969.
In 45 days, we'll be in the longest- lasting economic expansion in our nation's history.

It's pretty hard to argue with some of this stuff.
If only we could keep him away from Twitter. And cameras. I don't remember a politician who spent more time cramming both feet into his mouth.

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So what you're really saying is, "Thanks, Obama!" because this is just a continuation of Obama's longest consecutive jobs growth in history.

Don't forget, Obama turned around Bush's Great Recession. When Rump took over, the economy by all accounts had been in positive territory for at least 6 years and this is just a continuation of Obama's economic trends. Rump inherited good economy.

Guaranteed by this time next year it'll be in a tailspin again. Mark my words.

[maytag]

Originally Posted by piper6909

So what you're really saying is, "Thanks, Obama!".

Pfft. Once again: go take a basic economics course and you'll stop talking like this.

Yer killing me, smalls.
And making yourself look the fool while you're at it.

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[piper6909]

Originally Posted by maytag

Pfft. Once again: go take a basic economics course and you'll stop talking like this.

Yer killing me, smalls.
And making yourself look the fool while you're at it.

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HA! You mean trickle-down economics? LMFAO!

Try to dispute any of the facts I put forth, then come back to me.

[maytag]

Originally Posted by piper6909

Guaranteed by this time next year it'll be in a tailspin again. Mark my words.

And you've just illustrated the difference between "us" and "them". You HOPE the economy tanks, because it's political for you. You HOPE he fails, so you can be right.

I HOPED Obama succeeded, because it would've been good for me, you, and the rest of the nation. It's not political for me. And when he failed, repeatedly and constantly, I kept rooting for him, hoping he'd do something that benefited me. He didn't.

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[piper6909]

Originally Posted by maytag

And you've just illustrated the difference between "us" and "them". You HOPE the economy tanks, because it's political for you. You HOPE he fails, so you can be right.

I HOPED Obama succeeded, because it would've been good for me, you, and the rest of the nation. It's not political for me. And when he failed, repeatedly and constantly, I kept rooting for him, hoping he'd do something that benefited me. He didn't.

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Not at all. I believe it's coming, I don't hope for it. That's a warning call. When an Evangelical talks about the End of Times, does that mean he/she HOPES it comes? I don't think so. Just like climate change. Nobody hopes for it.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by maytag

And you've just illustrated the difference between "us" and "them". You HOPE the economy tanks, because it's political for you. You HOPE he fails, so you can be right.

I HOPED Obama succeeded, because it would've been good for me, you, and the rest of the nation. It's not political for me. And when he failed, repeatedly and constantly, I kept rooting for him, hoping he'd do something that benefited me. He didn't.

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So where exactly did Obama fail? The economy?

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by maytag

296k jobs.
3.6% unemployment.
Lowest since December 1969.
In 45 days, we'll be in the longest- lasting economic expansion in our nation's history.

It's pretty hard to argue with some of this stuff.
If only we could keep him away from Twitter. And cameras. I don't remember a politician who spent more time cramming both feet into his mouth.

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It's also hard to argue with his affinity for despots and his dictator-like tendencies. Nor can you argue with the fact that he's lied to us over 10,000 times since 2016.

He claims he's a great businessman, but you can't see his taxes.
He claims he's smart, but you can't see his school records.
He claims he's exonerated, but you can't see the Mueller report.

[Starter986]

Again, LOL.

I wouldn't give Obama credit for a successful bowel movement.

Yeah, Trump is the only lying President. I don't care if he doesn't hone his language delivery like his predecessor LICs (liars in chief). Does "You can keep your doctor" ring a bell.

Your team is doing a great job of ensuring his second term.

BTW: I didn't vote for Trump.

Have a great weekend, newcomer. :dance:

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by Starter986

Again, LOL.

I wouldn't give Obama credit for a successful bowel movement.

Yeah, Trump is the only lying President. I don't care if he doesn't hone his language delivery like his predecessor LICs (liars in chief). Does "You can keep your doctor" ring a bell.

Your team is doing a great job of ensuring his second term.

BTW: I didn't vote for Trump.

Have a great weekend, newcomer. :dance:

If you don't want to give Obama credit, that's fine. It still doesn't change the facts.


yeah yeah, "if you like your doctor..." they love to go to that one. It's the only instance when they can almost claim that he lied. First of all, that comment was made BEFORE the ACA was finalized. So, while it ended up being false, it was not an intentional lie. It's the same as Rump saying Mexico will pay for the wall. Now he's making you pay. It wasn't really a lie, it just never came to fruition.

Now, when Rump told you that the Russian meeting in Rump Tower was about adoption, that was a lie. After the fact. See the difference or do you need some more 'splainin'? And there are thousands of other lies Rump told you.

[maytag]

Originally Posted by piper6909

If you don't want to give Obama credit, that's fine. It still doesn't change the facts.





yeah yeah, "if you like your doctor..." they love to go to that one. It's the only instance when they can almost claim that he lied. First of all, that comment was made BEFORE the ACA was finalized. So, while it ended up being false, it was not an intentional lie. It's the same as Rump saying Mexico will pay for the wall. Now he's making you pay. It wasn't really a lie, it just never came to fruition.



Now, when Rump told you that the Russian meeting in Rump Tower was about adoption, that was a lie. After the fact. See the difference or do you need some more 'splainin'? And there are thousands of other lies Rump told you.

Piper, you're clearly wound-up. I think you should calm... drink a beverage.... take a breath.
Look.... I'm about to get on a plane; by the time I get back, I want you to be sane and reasonable. Go take the 986 for a spin.

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[piper6909]

Originally Posted by maytag

Piper, you're clearly wound-up. I think you should calm... drink a beverage.... take a breath.
Look.... I'm about to get on a plane; by the time I get back, I want you to be sane and reasonable. Go take the 986 for a spin.

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HAHA. Have a good flight. While you're up there, try to dispute the facts, I put forward and get back to me at your leisure, if you can.

I don't need to get wound up when I have the facts that back me up.


Safe travels!

[Starter986]

Have a safe flight, Maytag.

Have a nice evening, Piper.

[DoninDel]

Originally Posted by piper6909

It's also hard to argue with his affinity for despots and his dictator-like tendencies. Nor can you argue with the fact that he's lied to us over 10,000 times since 2016.

He claims he's a great businessman, but you can't see his taxes.
He claims he's smart, but you can't see his school records.
He claims he's exonerated, but you can't see the Mueller report.

The worst lie of all? "I will hire the BEST people."

The very few that were not corrupt and/or incompetent are gone.

Great businessmen don't have multiple bankruptcies.

We do know his Bachelor degree was not awarded with any honors... and he has no Master's degree.

We have the emails proving that his half-wit son, useless son-in-law and Manafort met with numerous Russians for the purpose of getting 'dirt' on Hillary - what more proof does one need???

He was a reality show host and many of his followers confuse reality shows with reality.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by DoninDel

The worst lie of all? "I will hire the BEST people."

The very few that were not corrupt and/or incompetent are gone.

Great businessmen don't have multiple bankruptcies.

We do know his Bachelor degree was not awarded with any honors... and he has no Master's degree.

We have the emails proving that his half-wit son, useless son-in-law and Manafort met with numerous Russians for the purpose of getting 'dirt' on Hillary - what more proof does one need???

He was a reality show host and many of his followers confuse reality shows with reality.

And remember when he was all over Obama for golfing? "I'll never leave the White House, I'll have too much work to do!" LMAO!

[Starter986]

Lol... Lindsey Graham.

This is the most entertaining & productive Presidency I can recall, and my "first" President was Kennedy.

Welcome, Donin. Yeah... businessman. Business men fail. At least he's not an attorney. And emails... where's that server?

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by Starter986

Lol... Lindsey Graham.

This is the most entertaining & productive Presidency I can recall, and my "first" President was Kennedy.

Welcome, Donin. Yeah... businessman. Business men fail. At least he's not an attorney. And emails... where's that server?

Entertaining? definitely. Productive? LMAO!

Ahh.... And while we're talking about emails, what about Jared's & Ivanka's use of private emails?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/us/politics/jared-kushner-ivanka-trump-private-emails.html

Oh, but that's different, right?

And businessmen fail, but how stupid do you have to be to lose money on a casino?
How many businessmen stiff their contractors?
How many start a sham university?
How many can't get a single US bank to loan to them so they have to go to Russian and German lenders?

[Starter986]

Originally Posted by piper6909

Entertaining? definitely. Productive? LMAO!

Ahh.... And while we're talking about emails, what about Jared's & Ivanka's use of private emails?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/us/politics/jared-kushner-ivanka-trump-private-emails.html

Oh, but that's different, right?

And businessmen fail, but how stupid do you have to be to lose money on a casino?
How many businessmen stiff their contractors?
How many start a sham university?
How many can't get a single US bank to loan to them so they have to go to Russian and German lenders?

LOL. Even I could make money if I owned a casino. It's, literally, a license to print money. I recall visiting the Trump casino in Indio, CA (I live 50 miles from there), now named Spotlight 29. Not a lot of bells and whistles... and the slots are "tight". Yeah, how he couldn't pull that off...

Stiffed? Trump is not alone. I've had to "compel" a few businesses to "pay up". Pay up they did. Every cent. How Trump got away with that...

Trump University? Yes, laughable. Likewise UOP, and other for-profit "institutions.

Maybe the Russian and German lenders offered better "terms"?

OK. Maybe not SO productive, but you have to give him credit for making things happen... He's a great American. (Yeah, lol, I'm baiting you).

BTW... the IMS... Tiptronic... anything to look for short of dismantling parts? Maybe newer looking gaskets or seals... wrench marks on bolts?

Have a great day! Cheers!

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by maytag

296k jobs.
3.6% unemployment.
Lowest since December 1969.
In 45 days, we'll be in the longest- lasting economic expansion in our nation's history.

It's pretty hard to argue with some of this stuff.
If only we could keep him away from Twitter. And cameras. I don't remember a politician who spent more time cramming both feet into his mouth.

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Correction 263k jobs. which puts the Trump average at 205k new jobs per month. For context, the average in Obama's entire second term was 207k new jobs per month. Yes.. we are creating LESS jobs now. And I took a look at that jobs report of 263k jobs in April. It was high because February only had 56k jobs!! Flip to the page in the jobs report about manufacturing jobs and it says only 1.5% came from new factory jobs. Let me repeat that for the guys in the back, in a month with 263k new jobs less than 2% of the total came from blue collar factory jobs. And it's the same 1-2% figure we had during.....Obama. The report also listed a loss of 12k jobs in retail. I guess the extra $20 bucks in each flyover country paycheck is resulting in fewer shopping bags at JC Penney than new Wraiths at the Rolls Royce dealer near Mar-A-Lago.


let's move on to GDP. So far under the professor of putting out fires of 800 year old historic landmarks, we've averaged about 3% GDP. That's not a booming economy by any measure. It would NOT put the professor in the top five Presidents on GDP. Even Jimmy Carter had above 3% GDP. The top five were all at 4-5%. Yep Jimmy was in the top five. Let me restate the obvious: GDP doesn't go up or down because of who is in the White House. Repeating this misnomer is one of the stupider things we do as Americans.

Let's discuss this "historic unemployment". When Obama walked into the White House with the FDIC and money market accounts two days from a total meltdown the unemployment rate was 7.8%. When Mr. "I didnt know a KGB agent (yeah, like an actual Soviet era spy) was at the Trump Tower meeting on "adoptions"" was inaugurated in January 2017 the unemployment rate was at 4.8%. Anything below 5% for just about any functional economy in the world is considered full employment. After two years of the proffesor/mentor to "Tim Apple"', the unemployment rate dropped a whopping 0.5 - 0.6% per year. The best analogy of Trump taking credit for "fuller full employment" is like a marathon runner jumping into a race in the last mile, crossing the finish first and immediately proceeding to take credit for the previous 25 miles he didn't even run.

Now let's look at "the longest lasting expansion in history "... We've had 119 consecutive months of positive job creation. Trump's been in office 26 of those 119 months. By my mathematical analysis... 93 of 119 months came under the previous administration. (showing my work: 119 - 26 = 93). That means that Obama accounted for 75% of the history-making total. Thus if we subscribe to the fallacy Presidents "create jobs" then how isn't Obama getting 75% of the credit??

Point of irony: fear of rising interest rates that had previously been at near 0% for an eternity are largely what motivated businesses to take out loans for expenditures that they'd been putting off for years And pushed home buyers to take out mortgages after sitting on the sidelines all during the recovery. Basically like shaking the last of the apples out of the tree. This rise in borrowing lit a fire under the economy's butt long before the corporate tax cut went from possible to a narrow victory in the Senate. And who took to Twitter to slam the Fed's decision to raise rates? The same guy now taking credit for increased lending activity and its resulting GDP growth. Yeah Mr. "I will not repeat my own words under oath" Trump ...but everyone else who has testified under oath are the ones lying. Okay Got it.

Meanwhile a year after the corporate tax cut passed and we had our first negative year in the stock market since the crash a decade earlier and are only now back on the same same curve that we were on since the 2012 deflationary spiral in materials and fuel prices. But more importantly if you look at actual corporate earnings growth today we're not really any higher since 2012 we're just paying a lot more in our IRAs and 401Ks for the same S&P 500 stocks. Back in NJ when you pay more for the same with no added value we call that a bubble.

[Starter986]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

Correction 263k jobs. which puts the Trump average at 205k new jobs per month. For context, the average in Obama's entire second term was 207k new jobs per month. Yes.. we are creating LESS jobs now. And I took a look at that jobs report of 263k jobs in April. It was high because February only had 56k jobs!! Flip to the page in the jobs report about manufacturing jobs and it says only 1.5% came from new factory jobs. Let me repeat that for the guys in the back, in a month with 263k new jobs less than 2% of the total came from blue collar factory jobs. And it's the same 1-2% figure we had during.....Obama. The report also listed a loss of 12k jobs in retail. I guess the extra $20 bucks in each flyover country paycheck is resulting in fewer shopping bags at JC Penney than new Wraiths at the Rolls Royce dealer near Mar-A-Lago.


let's move on to GDP. So far under the professor of putting out fires of 800 year old historic landmarks, we've averaged about 3% GDP. That's not a booming economy by any measure. It would NOT put the professor in the top five Presidents on GDP. Even Jimmy Carter had above 3% GDP. The top five were all at 4-5%. Yep Jimmy was in the top five. Let me restate the obvious: GDP doesn't go up or down because of who is in the White House. Repeating this misnomer is one of the stupider things we do as Americans.

Let's discuss this "historic unemployment". When Obama walked into the White House with the FDIC and money market accounts two days from a total meltdown the unemployment rate was 7.8%. When Mr. "I didnt know a KGB agent (yeah, like an actual Soviet era spy) was at the Trump Tower meeting on "adoptions"" was inaugurated in January 2017 the unemployment rate was at 4.8%. Anything below 5% for just about any functional economy in the world is considered full employment. After two years of the proffesor/mentor to "Tim Apple"', the unemployment rate dropped a whopping 0.5 - 0.6% per year. The best analogy of Trump taking credit for "fuller full employment" is like a marathon runner jumping into a race in the last mile, crossing the finish first and immediately proceeding to take credit for the previous 25 miles he didn't even run.

Now let's look at "the longest lasting expansion in history "... We've had 119 consecutive months of positive job creation. Trump's been in office 26 of those 119 months. By my mathematical analysis... 93 of 119 months came under the previous administration. (showing my work: 119 - 26 = 93). That means that Obama accounted for 75% of the history-making total. Thus if we subscribe to the fallacy Presidents "create jobs" then how isn't Obama getting 75% of the credit??

Point of irony: fear of rising interest rates that had previously been at near 0% for an eternity are largely what motivated businesses to take out loans for expenditures that they'd been putting off for years And pushed home buyers to take out mortgages after sitting on the sidelines all during the recovery. Basically like shaking the last of the apples out of the tree. This rise in borrowing lit a fire under the economy's butt long before the corporate tax cut went from possible to a narrow victory in the Senate. And who took to Twitter to slam the Fed's decision to raise rates? The same guy now taking credit for increased lending activity and its resulting GDP growth. Yeah Mr. "I will not repeat my own words under oath" Trump ...but everyone else who has testified under oath are the ones lying. Okay Got it.

Meanwhile a year after the corporate tax cut passed and we had our first negative year in the stock market since the crash a decade earlier and are only now back on the same same curve that we were on since the 2012 deflationary spiral in materials and fuel prices. But more importantly if you look at actual corporate earnings growth today we're not really any higher since 2012 we're just paying a lot more in our IRAs and 401Ks for the same S&P 500 stocks. Back in NJ when you pay more for the same with no added value we call that a bubble.

Those are great sound-bites and talking points.

What's your position on illegal alien immigration law violations?