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steved0x 01-07-2016 11:06 AM

Rear trailing arms replacement guide DIY
 
I just finished replacing my rear trailing arms (well one side anyway, will update when the other side is done).

(Here is a video guide on youtube of the FRONT arms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=899_OjGjBMg)

Parts needed:
2 new trailing arms - part #8 on this diagram
Rear Axle Wheel Carrier Control Arm Wheel Hub

986 Boxster TRW equivalent: TRW JTC1186 Control arm:
Robot Check

987 Boxster TRW equivalent: TRW JTC1316 Control arm:
Robot Check

I used the 987 part, see this thread for discussion:
http://986forum.com/forums/performance-technical-chat/53590-rear-suspension-noise-over-tar-strips.html

And thanks to Smallblock454 for providing the TRW part numbers.

Bentley says to replace the locking nuts, part # 90038001201

Tools needed.
  • 18 MM socket for the bolt ends (or wrench/crowfoot depending on clearance)
  • 21 MM socket for the nut (or wrench/crowfoot depending on clearance)
  • Torque wrench that goes to 118 ft/lbs (the torque for both ends of this trailing arm)
  • Wobble extension and/or other extensions
  • Breaker bar

I jacked up the car and put on jack stands and removed the wheels (they were already off for a brake bleed). I ended up putting the wheels back on and lowering to ramps, when I do the other side I am going to leave the car on the ramps.

I started with the passenger side and removed the front fender liner (3 or 4 nuts, very easy, 10mm)

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1452195351.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1452195468.jpg

Here is me removing the bolt that goes through the LCA (rear of arm). Note the jack in the back, in addition to jack stands I always put the jack near where I am working for extra safety in case a jack stand fails.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1452195590.jpg

And this is removing the bolt that attaches to the body at the front of the arm (bolt threads into body with no separate nut). This is where I needed the wobble arm because there is some tubing that is in the way.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1452195634.jpg

Note that I do not have the rearmost underbody panel on due to my deep sump and the fact that that panel is trashed anyway... you may need to remove it to get to the front bolt.

With the bolts removed, I removed the trailing arm. What worked for me was to take the back end of the bar and push it toward the middle of the car, sliding along the LCA, and then pop out the front end of the control arm toward the center of the car as well. Then move the whole assembly to the front of the car until the back end clears the LCA, and then it comes right out.

Note that I removed this one with the car on jack stands and the suspension unloaded. If my bushing end wasn't shot I do not believe I would have been able to remove it... [Edit: I no longer believe this is true - the monoball end of the arm is designed to pivot and so it should be able to be removed. I do believe an EPS/Vertex Urethane bushing arm would be hard to remove (and even harder to install) because that bushing would be under a lot of twisting load]

With the old arm removed, I was easily able to move around the bushing piece at the end (where with the new ones it absolutely would not budge) [Edit: now that I have taken one apart I was able to see how the monoball works - it is supposed to rotate around - that is how it accommodates the changing angles of the arm due to suspension load changes. I believe the stiffness of the new arms was due to the stiff rubber boots]

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1452195955.jpg

The old piece next to the new piece:
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1452195995.jpg

When I went to put the new piece in is when I realized there was no way unless I loaded the suspension.

[Edit: you could pivot the bushing to get it to line up to the correct angle but this is tougher to do with new arms. So I think this is easier to do but not required. With the Vertex/EPS I think it would be required because that is a traditional bushing and not a monoball and so that one would be very hard to rotate]

This is because with the suspension unloaded, the LCA is at a greater angle and when the forked end of the control arm is over it, the other end is twisted too much to slip in where it needs to go. I put the back wheels back on and lowered it down onto some ramps which flattened out the LCA. At this point I was able to get the new arm into position.

To reposition, I pushed the front of the arm toward the front of the car so I could slip the forks of the back end over the LCA. Then what worked for me was to slide the forked end up the LCA toward the center of the car until I could get the bushing end slightly rotated and slipped into where it needs to go.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1452196183.jpg

I got that bolt started and then went to the back of the car. That one was a little tougher but I was able to push it on and get it lined up. Pushing from the back of the car on the top of the fork with my hand got it positioned. I thought about jacking/lowering the car to change the angle of the LCA but didn't want to stress the forks when they were not in position. Pushing the top of the fork from the back of the car was the magic combination and it slide right into place...

All buttoned back up and torqued to 118 ft/lbs. A clever eye may notice that the nut/bolt is reversed here from what is shown in the parts diagram. That is the way it was previously installed so I put it back together that way (and only noticed it was reversed as I was typing this guide... )Looks like someone has been here before... I will check to see if the other side is that way. [Edit: this is the way it is supposed to be - I don't even think there is room to thread the bolt from the top]

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1452196348.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1452196371.jpg

Now I need to take the wheel back off and reinstall the fender liner. Next side I am going to leave on the wheel and not mess with the fender liner - it is much easier to get at the fork end from the back of the car than through the side... [Edit: I subsequently did the other side with the wheel on and the back end on ramps - it was very easy and took about 20 minutes. The hardest part was applying the 118 ft/lbs of torque to the frontmost bolt - that is tough to do while laying under the car...]

FAQ:
Q: Does the car need to be on wheels and suspension loaded before installing and torqueing down the bolts of this trailing arm?
A: The Bentley doesn't say so, but in my opinion the car will be on the wheels and the suspension loaded anyway or else it will be very hard to fit the parts. So by default the suspension will be loaded anyway when you do the installation and final torque. It can be done with the suspension but I think it is easier when it is loaded. In my opinion backing the car onto 2 ramps is the quickest way if there is no access to a lift.

Q: Can I tell if the part is bad without removing it to take a look.
A: In my opinion no. It is very securely fastened at the forked end and so I don't think you will see any rotational movement at the bushing end, but maybe some lateral play (which could be a sign of it being bad). However, if you were to unbolt the forked end and slide it up the LCA toward the center of the car so the forks are somewhat clear, you could then try and rotate the bushing end along the long axis of the arm. If you can it is probably shot. [Edit: this is not true in my opinion now. I believe the bushing is designed to rotate that way. I think one way to tell if it is bad is to unbolt the forked end and then see if the ball end rattles around. Or remove the arm, put the bushing in a vise and push on it. If it moves or clicks, those may be indicators of it being bad]

Edit 11/9/2016 I found a new website the other day, a 996 Register, and it has an embedded video showing one technique on how to check the arms. The person in the video hits them with a rubber mallet, and the bad one makes a metallic pinging noise, while the good one does not. Here is the page with the video:

http://www.996revolution.com/maintenance.html

Note that I haven't tried this, I found the video long after I had completed my job.

Q: Do I need an alignment after replacing this part.
A: No :) [Edit: at least 1 out of 3 of my FAQs were correct when I first put them out... )

911monty 01-07-2016 12:47 PM

Excellent writeup Steve!!:cheers: Well documented and Great insight even FAQs! Well done sir. After seeing your bushing stress test I do have to ask if you have compared the bushing hardness between the 9x6 and 9x7 parts?

steved0x 01-07-2016 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911monty (Post 479162)
Excellent writeup Steve!!:cheers: Well documented and Great insight even FAQs! Well done sir. After seeing your bushing stress test I do have to ask if you have compared the bushing hardness between the 9x6 and 9x7 parts?

I have not and wouldn't know how to start. Perhaps this hardness is a key difference and is why some say the 987 part is better...?

Edit: these are monoballs and not a regular bushing. I discovered tonight that if I put a small bolt in I can get it to move. There is more resistance than my old shot ones that flopped around however. I am guessing they work in a different way and the resistance is different...

911monty 01-07-2016 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steved0x (Post 479170)
I have not and wouldn't know how to start. Perhaps this hardness is a key difference and is why some say the 987 part is better...?

Edit: these are monoballs and not a regular bushing. I discovered tonight that if I put a small bolt in I can get it to move. There is more resistance than my old shot ones that flopped around however. I am guessing they work in a different way and the resistance is different...

Well don't know if it's too late, but I believe you have both a 986 and a 987 arm? While it would be subjective is it possible to compare the deflection resistance between the two using a test similar to your bolt test? I'm kinda wondering if this monobail is the difference also.

Steve; Just went over your writeup again and noticed something I hadn't noticed on the original read. The bolt you identified as being upside down,IS. The reason it is installed with the nut on bottom is so that if the nut were to fall off, the bolt would still be in place. With nut on top if nut falls off bolt also falls out.

steved0x 01-07-2016 05:13 PM

I actually had 5 control arms to test using a bolt:
1 987 rear arm, Trw
2 986 rear trailing arms, trw
2 986 front arm, brand unknown (from Elephant, they said Asian but brand unknown)

The force to move the bushing using a bolt was the same for all 4 with the exception of the 987 trw which was easier, I could actually move it by hand (I could not with the other one i installed already)

After moving them about for a few seconds the resistance was about the same. Edit: After taking one apart, I believe the resistance I felt was the resistance of the stiff rubber boots and not from the inside parts...

The 2 old 986 arms moved very easily. I am.going to take one apart to see what is inside.

The reason I am replacing mine is the guy that installed my front GT3 LCA said they were shot. So short of the ball rattling inside, I am not sure how to tell when one is shot.

Maybe I will know more when I take it apart...

911monty 01-07-2016 05:23 PM

Steve I was editing my post when you replied. Please see my comments at bottom concerning the upside down bolt.

steved0x 01-07-2016 05:29 PM

I finished the other side and it was nut on top too, so now I have them both backwards I guess :) what you say makes perfect sense and I was thinking the same way...

I just got out my Bentley and looking at the pictures in the Bentley they show nut on top as well, backwards from the parts diagram. Weird..

911monty 01-07-2016 05:36 PM

I think some new thought is with nut on top it protects the bolt threads from road debris somewhat better. However me being old school I think the original thought is better. I would rather the bolt remained in place. :eek:

steved0x 01-07-2016 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911monty (Post 479197)
I think some new thought is with nut on top it protects the bolt threads from road debris somewhat better. However me being old school I think the original thought is better. I would rather the bolt remained in place. :eek:

Looking at it some more, I'm not sure if there is even room to thread the bolt in from the top...

steved0x 01-07-2016 06:24 PM

I took the boots off of my old ones. I have to say, the grease looks good and the ball joint is smooth with no rattling or lateral play; it seems to rotate smoothly about its possible motions.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1452223216.jpg

Now I am wondering why the heck I replaced them... And how to truly tell if they are bad. To me this one looks and feels pretty good... :) Maybe if there is a problem it only manifests under a heavy load?

The one in the vertex video for the EPS rebuilt arms is definitely bad, the whole guts falls out at one point in the video :)

I think i am going to unbolt the forks on my front ones and if the ball end doesn't rattle i am going to leave them on...

Steve

WillH 01-08-2016 02:06 AM

Place the ball in a vice and push pull on the arm, any looseness ? I had one with visible movement and an audible click when done with the mallet. The other seemed fine but was much quieter after replacement.
Also had no reason to load the suspension to install the new control arms. Bolts lined up quite well.

Luckyed 01-08-2016 04:39 AM

Very nice write up Steve.

Thanks.

steved0x 01-08-2016 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillH (Post 479220)
Place the ball in a vice and push pull on the arm, any looseness ? I had one with visible movement and an audible click when done with the mallet. The other seemed fine but was much quitter after replacement.
Also had no reason to load the suspension to install the new control arms. Bolts lined up quite well.

I added these items to the write-up above, thank you! I don't have a vise but I will throw the arms in my truck and take them to a mechanic friend of mine to test next chance I get.

ttmedical 01-10-2016 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steved0x (Post 479144)
FAQ:
Q: Does the car need to be on wheels and suspension loaded before installing and torqueing down the bolts of this trailing arm?
A: The Bentley doesn't say so, but in my opinion the car will be on the wheels and the suspension loaded anyway or else it will be very hard to fit the parts. So by default the suspension will be loaded anyway when you do the installation and final torque. It can be done with the suspension but I think it is easier when it is loaded. In my opinion backing the car onto 2 ramps is the quickest way if there is no access to a lift.

Q: Can I tell if the part is bad without removing it to take a look.
A: In my opinion no. It is very securely fastened at the forked end and so I don't think you will see any rotational movement at the bushing end, but maybe some lateral play (which could be a sign of it being bad). However, if you were to unbolt the forked end and slide it up the LCA toward the center of the car so the forks are somewhat clear, you could then try and rotate the bushing end along the long axis of the arm. If you can it is probably shot. [Edit: this is not true in my opinion now. I believe the bushing is designed to rotate that way. I think one way to tell if it is bad is to unbolt the forked end and then see if the ball end rattles around. Or remove the arm, put the bushing in a vise and push on it. If it moves or clicks, those may be indicators of it being bad]

Q: Do I need an alignment after replacing this part.
A: No :) [Edit: at least 1 out of 3 of my FAQs were correct when I first put them out... )

Hey Steve, thanks so much for this write up! I was on the fence for doing this project and now with your help will attempt it myself and save the labor cost for other wear and tear! One quick question is can I remove the rear trailing arm while the car is on ramps and the suspension is loaded? I know space might be tight but I'm more concerned if the trailing arm is vital to the vehicle not falling on my head hahah! Thanks again for the write up!

steved0x 01-14-2016 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ttmedical (Post 479567)
Hey Steve, thanks so much for this write up! I was on the fence for doing this project and now with your help will attempt it myself and save the labor cost for other wear and tear! One quick question is can I remove the rear trailing arm while the car is on ramps and the suspension is loaded? I know space might be tight but I'm more concerned if the trailing arm is vital to the vehicle not falling on my head hahah! Thanks again for the write up!

I do not think the trailing arm is holding up anything, it looks more like it is to prevent forward/rearward caster changes for the wheel. To confirm, I did my second one with the car on ramps and nothing moved when I took off the arm.

I suppose it is possible though... You could set a jackstand or jack in a backup position just in case.

RandallNeighbour 01-14-2016 07:45 AM

On the forked end, I was not able to get the bolt top down installed. There is simply no room. So the nut went on top with some locktite on the threads.

jakeru 02-02-2016 08:35 PM

Hey Steve - any thoughts on the trailing arm repair procedure discussed in this renntech thread?

Boxster Control Arm Repair

Do you notice a plastic bushing insert inside the ones you disassembled?

Racer Boy 02-03-2016 06:20 AM

I replaced my trailing arms two weekends ago, and it is pretty straightforward. The first one I replaced was the driver's side, and I jacked the car up to do it. The passenger side I used ramps to get the car up. You have more room to access everything if you jack the car up, but you'll have to jack the control up to get everything to line up. The ramps method was difficult for me, because my ramps aren't high enough, and they are in the way.

The most difficult part was dealing with the splash guards and the huge plastic cover in front of the splash guards.

Now that the very bad and constant clunking is gone, it is strange to drive! It's almost like a normal car now. But without the terrible clunking, now I can hear all sorts of other suspension noises; creaking, smaller clunking, and squeaking. When my Bilstein shocks get in (the rears have been back-ordered for months), I'm completely rebuilding the suspension, including installing ROW M030 springs.

steved0x 02-03-2016 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakeru (Post 482519)
Hey Steve - any thoughts on the trailing arm repair procedure discussed in this renntech thread?

Boxster Control Arm Repair

Do you notice a plastic bushing insert inside the ones you disassembled?

I just took off the rubber roots - the ball inside was in there without any slop, and I guess that plastic piece is captured up inside there and doesn't come out unless the ball is really flopping around in there... Mine hadn't yet degenerated to that point and so I didn't see the plastic part.

I have read that thread and if you want I can take a closeup of the arm without the rubber boot so you can get a better idea of what to do for that repair.

petee_c 04-13-2016 10:27 AM

Steve, how's it been running with the 987 part?

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steved0x 05-09-2016 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petee_c (Post 491528)
Steve, how's it been running with the 987 part?

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Been running great so far and is quieter than my old ones too :)

texomawaves 06-01-2016 12:35 PM

So.. Is the trailing arm ball joint end a common cause of rattles? I have a rattle when I go over cobble stone roads. If this is a common issue I think I'll replace mine.

RandallNeighbour 06-01-2016 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texomawaves (Post 498098)
So.. Is the trailing arm ball joint end a common cause of rattles? I have a rattle when I go over cobble stone roads. If this is a common issue I think I'll replace mine.

The answer to your question is yes.

flaps10 06-02-2016 09:23 AM

I thought I'd throw another data point in this thread since it's all about the same subject. I knew these parts under a different name: rear track arm (even though the very similar counterpart in the front of the car is called a trailing arm).

Anyway I went with these Porsche 986 987 Boxster Boxster s 97 10 Adjustable Rear Track Arm Arms | eBay
Not because I really needed the adjustment (though it certainly won't hurt) but because the pair of them were cheaper than a single OEM from the factory.

Rather than just replace the track arms (my left one was rattling on tar strips) I also replaced my lower control arms and my sway bar end links and bushings.

To the question above about whether you can swap them out with the car on a ramp I'm sure you could. I found it handy to have the whole mess free to swing back and forth while I got the bolts all installed.

Prior to installing the adjustable arms I pinned each of them to the arm I removed so that I could set them to the exact length and lock them down.

One issue with the adjustable arms is the fact that they're straight instead of having that dog leg in them like the originals. To answer anyone's question about why they might have a bend, it's to clear the inside forward edge of the tire. It's close enough that I'm ordering a set of wheel spacers just to make sure they never rub.

Mine is all back together so it's on to exhaust and then lift the front where I've got another set of lower control arms and complete tie rod ends (all OEM) and off to the alignment shop.

texomawaves 06-20-2016 11:09 AM

I'll be replacing with new TRWs. But thought I'd ask... Does anyone rebuild/exchange these?

steved0x 06-20-2016 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texomawaves (Post 500191)
I'll be replacing with new TRWs. But thought I'd ask... Does anyone rebuild/exchange these?

I think Vertex rebuilds them and replaces the monoball end with a urethane bushing. There is a thread somewhere that describes why (in that writer's opinion) it is a downgrade, because (I am trying to recall what the thread said) the urethane bushing allows some fore/aft compression which allows caster and toe changes under hard driving, where the monoball constrains the fore/aft motion due to the nature of the monoball style of joint. It made sense to me.

I don't know of anybody that rebuilds the OEM track arma and replaces the monoball end with another monoball.

texomawaves 06-21-2016 08:58 AM

I found the TRW JTC1186 for sale by a ebay seller "carpartsinmotion" in the UK for about half the price. It seems legit, but wondering if any pitfalls from ordering overseas like this to save a little money. Any risk here, thoughts?

Porsche Boxster Wishbone Track Control Arm 2 5 3 2 96 to 02 JTC1186 Suspension | eBay

steved0x 06-21-2016 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texomawaves (Post 500310)
I found the TRW JTC1186 for sale by a ebay seller "carpartsinmotion" in the UK for about half the price. It seems legit, but wondering if any pitfalls from ordering overseas like this to save a little money. Any risk here, thoughts?

Porsche Boxster Wishbone Track Control Arm 2 5 3 2 96 to 02 JTC1186 Suspension | eBay

$108.26 on Amazon prime for the US:

https://www.amazon.com/TRW-Automotive-JTC1186-Premium-Control/dp/B00T9YHFCE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466529491&sr=8-1&keywords=JTC1186

The UK one with shipping looks to be slightly above that plus who knows how long it would take to get there...

texomawaves 06-21-2016 09:45 AM

Thanks Steve. I just saw that deal on Amazon, and then another one for $189 also on Amazon. The large difference kinda spooked me away thinking it may be too good to be true. $108 + free shipping is the best deal so far. Thanks again!!

steved0x 06-21-2016 10:20 AM

Yeah I don't know why there are multiple prices/sellers on Amazon for the same thing...

texomawaves 07-08-2016 12:06 PM

wow, a 45 minute job on the right rear, with a beer break half way through. Now I hear all the rattles coming from the front of the car. I'm thinking the front track arm joints are worn out there too.

Shred 09-19-2016 07:59 AM

Just to add to the OP's excellent guide.
I've replaced mine yesterday.

I loaded the suspension using my jack to order to put the new part in.

I fully loaded the suspension and installed the front bolt very easily, then use the jack to lower the suspension if needed to install the rear fork section. The jack can help getting the perfect angle to install the part, it basically would slip in with just a little force.

Remember to use blue Loctite and a new locking nut at each rear end.

BruceH 10-14-2016 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shred (Post 510658)
Just to add to the OP's excellent guide.
I've replaced mine yesterday.

I loaded the suspension using my jack to order to put the new part in.

I fully loaded the suspension and installed the front bolt very easily, then use the jack to lower the suspension if needed to install the rear fork section. The jack can help getting the perfect angle to install the part, it basically would slip in with just a little force.

Remember to use blue Loctite and a new locking nut at each rear end.

I did mine today, I used the 997 part. Great DIY write-up :cheers: I will echo using your jack to load the suspension. Getting the suspension to just the right height allows the arm to slip right into place. I also ended up replacing the underbody panel and the two rear wheel mud guards. All three were well past their prime. The clunking is now gone for the most part. There is still some suspension noise but no where near what it was before.

Raider 11-07-2016 10:28 AM

Yes, thanks for the great right up! Got a pair today from Amazon in TRW box and Porsche part number still on them. I thought this after market stuff had the number ground off?http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1478546930.jpg

steved0x 11-07-2016 11:48 AM

The part number is still there, but there is a little triangle that is ground off on the TRW arms that is present on the Porsche arms. It might be where that little blemish is between "Outside" and the part number.

Raider 11-07-2016 12:26 PM

Thanks, maybe that's what I'm thinking of not the part number. But for $116.97ea. I can do without the triangle!

Deserion 02-05-2017 05:41 PM

Just did this job on mine this afternoon. It went much more smoothly than I had anticipated. :)

I went with the TRW JTC1316 (987 part) as they were a little cheaper at the time on Amazon compared to the JTC1186 (now they're opposite).

The wobble extensions were a good call, Steve. Did it one side at a time and got it all torqued nicely. And no more rattles! :cheers:

steved0x 02-05-2017 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deserion (Post 525775)
. And no more rattles! :cheers:

Nice!

Always fun when a project comes together :cheers:

Need_for_speed 02-18-2017 07:22 PM

Just replaced my rear trailing arms and many thanks to Steve for posting this DIY. It was really helpful. I thought I'd pass along a few observations in addition to Steve's excellent instructions.
After removing my old trailing arms, it was obvious they were shot. I could move the rubber bushings around easily with my fingers -- they were very loose and floppy. The new arms are very stiff -- couldn't move them at all.
FYI, if you're a old little guy like me, it's a lot of fun cranking those front bolts to 118 ft lbs while lying on your back. I kept rechecking my torque wrench thinking I had set it wrong, and also wishing I had a lift instead of jack stands so I could gain some leverage.
In the end, Steve's DIY helped a lot, and it wasn't all that bad of a job. The only problem now is that I've seen all the other suspension components with rubber bushings, and I know they need to be replaced as well. :eek:

Danimal 09-15-2024 07:26 PM

I had the classic clattering in the back going over rough ground at low speeds. So I changed the rear trailing arms with the 987 TRW part listed in this thread. It is much cheaper than the corresponding 986 part from TRW.

I did it with the whole car up in the air using lift bars. Had no problem aligning the bolts, just had to push a little on the lower control arm. I used the existing bolts and torqued them to spec (118ft/lbs). I did not use loctite but sort of wished I did. Oh well.

Took it on two test drives and the clatter is gone. Still can’t figure out what was wrong with the olds ones. But glad the commotion is gone 👍

Another great fix from the forums in the books! 📕


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