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madmodz 09-09-2016 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddy (Post 509569)
i'm no engineer, but it looks like you've designed a very nice piece.

I agree, it looks nicely made. Someone please give me the 411 on which throttle body to use. Years, part #, what not to use. Some ebay sellers are selling boxster tb's as 996 parts. They don't mention the mm size in their listings. I even saw one pulled from a 2.5 and being sold as a 996.

Meir 09-09-2016 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmodz (Post 509600)
I agree, it looks nicely made. Someone please give me the 411 on which throttle body to use. Years, part #, what not to use. Some ebay sellers are selling boxster tb's as 996 parts. They don't mention the mm size in their listings. I even saw one pulled from a 2.5 and being sold as a 996.

go with the 997 part.
i had the 74 mm TB
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/qwe1473473380.jpg

eddy 09-09-2016 06:18 PM

987's have the larger tb too. mine came off a cayman or cayman s. i think it's the same part number as above but i will check.

Ben006 09-09-2016 06:35 PM

I have to check but I think the one I used is part number 996.605.115.01

Can you measure the dimensions? Diameter on the outlet flange side, and bolt spacing?

eddy 09-09-2016 06:40 PM

there is pretty extensive thread conversation about these larger tb's being the same across quite a few platforms despite different part numbers. if i remember right, The Radium King talked about which ones were the same. anyway, the cayman tb i have bolts right up to the 996 plenum T that i have so i'm confident that it has the same dimensions.

Ben006 09-09-2016 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmodz (Post 509600)
I agree, it looks nicely made. Someone please give me the 411 on which throttle body to use. Years, part #, what not to use. Some ebay sellers are selling boxster tb's as 996 parts. They don't mention the mm size in their listings. I even saw one pulled from a 2.5 and being sold as a 996.

Thanks :)
I just designed it, I have to give credit to the guys @ shapeways for the printing! They know their stuff!

I'm done polishing the inside of the one I just received.
Still have to make sure it is clean and paint it!

eddy 09-09-2016 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 509613)
Thanks :)
I just designed it, I have to give credit to the guys @ shapeways for the printing! They know their stuff!

I'm done polishing the inside of the one I just received.
Still have to make sure it is clean and paint it!

I'm really excited to try it out. Thanks again for all the effort you're putting into these.

eddy 09-10-2016 05:20 AM

madmodz, my part number is the same as the one that Meir posted above: 997 605 115 00 and it came off a 2.7 Cayman

this is a really long read but it's how i got interested in ben's product. in it, TRK and others share that 996/997.1/987 throttle bodies will all work. if you go 987, you can use either s or non s. just be mindful that if you're on ebay and you see "boxster throttle body" that the number starts with a 997 and not 986!
http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/31693-maf-throttle-body-diameter.html

hope that helps! it took me a bit of time to figure out the right ones too, and you're right, there are quite a few sellers out there either misrepresenting or not knowing what they have.

Ben006 09-12-2016 01:33 PM

http://nsa38.casimages.com/img/2016/...4446103016.jpg
http://nsa38.casimages.com/img/2016/...4447270331.jpg

And one painted:
http://nsa38.casimages.com/img/2016/...4444419917.jpg
http://nsa38.casimages.com/img/2016/...4445814394.jpg
http://nsa37.casimages.com/img/2016/...4447494818.jpg
http://nsa37.casimages.com/img/2016/...4448316982.jpg

;)

mavis.d 09-13-2016 02:59 AM

I like :cool:

eddy 09-14-2016 06:10 AM

looking good!

heymanwatchthis 09-20-2016 08:13 AM

Here is a great deal on a throttle body. Just ordered all the parts, cant wait to install it!

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2785209/

Meir 09-20-2016 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heymanwatchthis (Post 510765)
Here is a great deal on a throttle body. Just ordered all the parts, cant wait to install it!

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2785209/

me like this
Porsche 997 GT3 RS Throttle Valve Assembly Body w Seal 82mm Bosch New | eBay
:D:D:D:D:D
maybe one day Ban will find the time to build one for my 996.

Ben006 09-20-2016 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heymanwatchthis (Post 510765)
Here is a great deal on a throttle body. Just ordered all the parts, cant wait to install it!

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2785209/

It's cheap for a brand new one! Good find!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meir (Post 510784)
me like this
Porsche 997 GT3 RS Throttle Valve Assembly Body w Seal 82mm Bosch New | eBay
:D:D:D:D:D
maybe one day Ban will find the time to build one for my 996.

I don't know Ban, but I'll do it :p
I just need a 911 plenum to take measurements!

The first two have been sent, and the next one will be send tomorrow! Can't wait to hear the first comment !

Ben

djw8282 09-20-2016 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heymanwatchthis (Post 510765)
Here is a great deal on a throttle body. Just ordered all the parts, cant wait to install it!

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2785209/

Is this a 74mm throttle body??

madmodz 09-20-2016 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djw8282 (Post 510812)
Is this a 74mm throttle body??

I think that's 83. I'm not sure if it bolts down to this version Ben made. Down the line I would like to experiment on the dyno with the 74 vs 83. I would time it a month apart after the first dyno to let the ecu adjust to the other throttle size.

Well I scored a used 74mm tb for 70.00 shipped on ebay. The average lately has been about 100 bucks used. I hit him with a 60 dollar best offer and he refused it. Waited about four days and offered up 70.

mavis.d 09-20-2016 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmodz (Post 510828)
I think that's 83. I'm not sure if it bolts down to this version Ben made. Down the line I would like to experiment on the dyno with the 74 vs 83. I would time it a month apart after the first dyno to let the ecu adjust to the other throttle size.

Well I scored a used 74mm tb for 70.00 shipped on ebay. The average lately has been about 100 bucks used. I hit him with a 60 dollar best offer and he refused it. Waited about four days and offered up 70. :ah:

You're lucky with that price. Average price here is £120 but I've managed to pick one up for £70 all in :)

heymanwatchthis 09-21-2016 11:11 AM

This is the 74mm version(99760511501), whereas the 99760511601 is 82mm for GT3RS.

Ben006 09-21-2016 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmodz (Post 510828)
I think that's 83. I'm not sure if it bolts down to this version Ben made. Down the line I would like to experiment on the dyno with the 74 vs 83. I would time it a month apart after the first dyno to let the ecu adjust to the other throttle size.

Well I scored a used 74mm tb for 70.00 shipped on ebay. The average lately has been about 100 bucks used. I hit him with a 60 dollar best offer and he refused it. Waited about four days and offered up 70. :ah:

Nope, the 83mm doesn't bolt for now.

I don't think it would be suited for the boxster' small engines.

I can do one for the GT3 TB if someone wants to try it!

The last one is on his way to the other side of the ocean :)

Ben

Meir 09-21-2016 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 510809)


I don't know Ban, but I'll do it :p


Ben

LOL!
I can't even blame the iPad on this one. :o

madmodz 09-22-2016 08:05 PM

Got mine today looks great! Sorry about the violin symbol. Have no ideal how that got on there. I got to figure out if I want a metal color or going to do red.

madmodz 09-24-2016 06:46 PM

Getting ready for paint:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...psf7evd9x3.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...psn2iy4wlk.jpg
painted:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...psrclx8bfr.jpg,

Im hoping to pull 25 hp by this mod, plus doing the secondary delete pipe, and I made a custom airbox.

Pdwight 09-24-2016 06:48 PM

Pretty dang amazing

Ben006 09-24-2016 07:13 PM

Nice :)

Did you smooth it before painting it?

achillies 09-25-2016 06:32 AM

Are you still testing or are they for sale?

Ben006 09-25-2016 07:04 AM

I'm waiting for the testers to give me their feedback on the installation, in case I need to modify something to make them easier to fit.

eddy 09-28-2016 05:17 PM

Hi Ben,
I was out of town till today. Opened up the package and everything looks great! A very quality piece you've designed and created.

I'll update with pics soon. hope to install in the next week or so.

Ben006 09-29-2016 02:32 PM

Glad that you like it :)

I can't wait to hear from you! Quick quick!

madmodz 09-29-2016 04:29 PM

I have been building a custom fiberglass airbox. I really don't want to, but I must. I'm also using a evo fresh air intake. Curious if the oem tube fits around the throttle body

eddy 09-29-2016 06:05 PM

baseline dyno 8am eastern monday. hope to get the airbox and plenum in and re dynoed the week after!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 511640)
Glad that you like it :)

I can't wait to hear from you! Quick quick!


madmodz 09-29-2016 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddy (Post 511656)
baseline dyno 8am eastern monday. hope to get the airbox and plenum in and re dynoed the week after!

A week might be too soon to let the ECM fully adjust to the plenum. try 3 weeks.

eddy 09-29-2016 06:53 PM

or how much driving? would like to move it along quickly:)

madmodz 09-29-2016 06:57 PM

I have read on here it takes a little time to fully let the ecm adjust to the new accessories. You wouldn't get a true reading dynoing the next day.

mavis.d 10-01-2016 06:48 AM

Mine arrived today :)
Go away for 12 days tomorrow :) but :(

Ben006 10-01-2016 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmodz (Post 511659)
I have read on here it takes a little time to fully let the ecm adjust to the new accessories. You wouldn't get a true reading dynoing the next day.

Yes, it takes at least a week.
You will feel it when driving, the idle will be stable and you should feel an improvement.

madmodz 10-01-2016 09:28 PM

I started the install today and had to re-read all 14 pages here. First mistake I made, is not realize that there is o-ring. No wor.ies, got to get some silicone or gasket maker. 2nd mistake is that I have not purchased the 3" intake tube and silicone elbows.

madmodz 10-02-2016 11:20 PM

This is why you need this product
 
Size matters! Though I haven't had a chance to test due to other mods, there is no doubt I'm going to pull at the least 20hp making it the best bang for your buck item.
That's 996 TB vs 986 TB

.http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...ps8ff78nlj.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...ps41rw3uix.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...pszch6vi2a.jpg

eddy 10-03-2016 06:27 AM

I did my baseline dyno run today. All stock, desnorkeled. three runs, best hp was 223, best tq was 196. will get started on install later this week/early next and do a follow up dyno once the computer has had a chance to figure it out.

Meir 10-03-2016 09:03 AM

keep the good work guys.
cant wait to see some dyno results.

heliguy 10-03-2016 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddy (Post 511926)
I did my baseline dyno run today. All stock, desnorkeled. three runs, best hp was 223, best tq was 196. will get started on install later this week/early next and do a follow up dyno once the computer has had a chance to figure it out.

We are so curious!!


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