11-17-2019, 11:43 AM
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Location: Orange County, CA
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Originally Posted by MaxD
JEDD,
What are your primary goals for a data system. Are you after great videos, driver development, chassis development or just monitoring your car vitals. How much $$$ are you willing to lay out.
AIM is popular because it offers many of the features of Pro systems (Motec, Pi/Cosworth, Bosch, etc.) at significantly lower cost. The VBOX systems have significantly better video capture and functionality than AIM.
There are pro's and con's to them all.
The K-line output from the Boxster ECU is far too slow to really capture meaningful data. It has many of the right channels. TPS for instance would not even remotely show you accurately where you were full throttle on corner exit. That why additional sensors are the way to go, or taping the signal from the TPS in this case.
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Thanks Max and great information! I'll do some more research on those options.
My highest priority is driver development, then chassis development, vitals and video quality.
I don't want to spend too much, but I also don't want to throw good money into a system that doesn't advance my goals. Does this change anything in your opinion?
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11-18-2019, 01:26 PM
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Location: Arizona
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If keeping cost down is important, then look into Autosport labs.
Pretty decent capability and data analysis but you need to get down and dirty with programming and setup. You can run it on virtually any tablet or phone.
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11-19-2019, 03:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ986S
If keeping cost down is important, then look into Autosport labs.
Pretty decent capability and data analysis but you need to get down and dirty with programming and setup. You can run it on virtually any tablet or phone.
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That looks like great bang for buck. Do you have one?
Like the Raspberry Pi option.
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11-19-2019, 08:37 PM
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Location: Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxD
That looks like great bang for buck. Do you have one?
Like the Raspberry Pi option.
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Yes, I have a Race Capture MK1 and dedicated oil pressure sensors with the Accusump. The rest of the parameters I log through the OBD2 adapter on canbus. If youd like more details I have documented almost everything. The new RC MK2 can now run shift lights and sync video cams over canbus and Wi-Fi.
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2002 Boxster S - NHP 200 Cell Headers,test pipes,Borla CatBack,Competition Plenum,74 mm TB, EVOMS Tune,Tarett UDP,Eibach Swaybars,BIlstein PSS9s,TuneRS rear toe links,wheel studs,15 mm wheel spacers on all 4,EBC yellow stuff pads,Sebro rotors, EBS oil baffles,160 deg Thermostat,2 quart Accusump,full filtration remote oil filter,rad fan switch,custom gauge/switch plate, Race Capture data logging, 90K miles
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11-21-2019, 04:31 AM
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Here's a screenshot from Circuit Tools, the analysis program for VBox. Very simple to use, pull the SD card and load. I really like the compare lap feature for learning. You can also build custom dash scenes, I made the on in the photo to look like a 986 dash.
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11-21-2019, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxD
Like the Raspberry Pi option.
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I know what a Raspberry Pi is, but tell me more about using it as data logger.
How to you connect all the sensors?
What software do you use?
Thanks,
Greg
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11-22-2019, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg Holmberg
I know what a Raspberry Pi is, but tell me more about using it as data logger.
How to you connect all the sensors?
What software do you use?
Thanks,
Greg
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They have a version of their RaceCapture App for Raspberry Pi. In fact they seem to support just about any OS for their software.
The logger is separate hardware.
I'm just a geek.
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11-22-2019, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxD
They have a version of their RaceCapture App for Raspberry Pi.
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For anyone else who's interested, I found this information on the product. The company calls it "experimental" at this point.
RaceCapture on Raspberry Pi
The Raspberry Pi does not do the actual data capture. You still have to buy their proprietary black box to connect all the sensors and record the data. The Raspberry Pi just runs an app that provides the display of data on a touchscreen.
There's a 7" touchscreen you can mount as a dash for $69 + $25 for the case. The Pi 3 is $35. The RaceCapture/Pro is $600 or the RaceCapture/Track is $400, both with GPS.
Greg
Last edited by Greg Holmberg; 11-22-2019 at 09:49 AM.
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