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cmacduff 12-14-2014 09:32 AM

Forgot 1st page...

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thstone 12-14-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cmacduff (Post 428287)
Sorry for the delay. Here is the build list for my oil cooler and a picture of it. The fan is actually underneath the cooler and pulls air through a hole in the trunk and exhausts to the street. There is also obviously a cut out in the bottom of the trunk to allow for this.

Thanks Chris - any temp data that you'd like to share, before vs after? That is a serious cooler!

thstone 12-14-2014 02:30 PM

My younger son was home for the holidays from college so I talked him into helping me start to swap out the transmission. We got the lower braces, rear sway bar, and entire exhaust system removed in about 90 mins.

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seningen 12-14-2014 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cmacduff (Post 428287)
Sorry for the delay. Here is the build list for my oil cooler and a picture of it. The fan is actually underneath the cooler and pulls air through a hole in the trunk and exhausts to the street. There is also obviously a cut out in the bottom of the trunk to allow for this.
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http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418581532.jpg

Thank you sir!

jaykay 12-14-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thstone (Post 428017)
Hah! That is pretty funny! Let me know what we're going to fix next...

Sorry to hear that the 951 might go but you'll love a Spec Boxster!

Ah em thinking of tracking a 951 this coming season. ...you guys are making nervous

seningen 12-14-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 428357)
Ah em thinking of tracking a 951 this coming season. ...you guys are making nervous

Do your homework. Lots of info out there.
Keep your oil cool, baffle your oil pan.

M

stephen wilson 12-15-2014 07:46 AM

macduff, Where is the cooler fresh air inlet ? The trunk is sealed pretty well, a fan can't move air without a flow path.

cmacduff 12-15-2014 08:06 AM

A hole was cut in the middle of the trunk and a custom scoop made to funnel air in to it. We did testing on the air flow by taping the strands of a mop from the back of the car over the inlet for the air cooler before making the scoop and used a go-pro to film the strands and see where the air flow was at race speeds. The cooler fan actually did suck the air in without the scoop so we tested some sessions with a "sample scoop" made out of an in box that you would see in an office on the wall. We used double sided tape and zip tied it through the mesh in the oil cooler in let. Temperatures were improved by 10 degrees with the scoop so even though air flowed without it was improved with the scoop. I'll post some pictures of that and also some screen shots of the temperature differences.

stephen wilson 12-15-2014 08:14 AM

Cool, glad to see you did some testing.

seningen 12-15-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cmacduff (Post 428416)
A hole was cut in the middle of the trunk and a custom scoop made to funnel air in to it. We did testing on the air flow by taping the strands of a mop from the back of the car over the inlet for the air cooler before making the scoop and used a go-pro to film the strands and see where the air flow was at race speeds. The cooler fan actually did suck the air in without the scoop so we tested some sessions with a "sample scoop" made out of an in box that you would see in an office on the wall. We used double sided tape and zip tied it through the mesh in the oil cooler in let. Temperatures were improved by 10 degrees with the scoop so even though air flowed without it was improved with the scoop. I'll post some pictures of that and also some screen shots of the temperature differences.

I'm assuming when you say trunk -- in this case you mean trunk lid?
Definitely like to see the pix --

I was thinking something similar -- probably looks something like a 930 intercooler.

Mike

specboxCO 12-15-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cmacduff (Post 428416)
A hole was cut in the middle of the trunk and a custom scoop made to funnel air in to it.

This mod is not going to be spec box legal, otherwise everyone would be cutting holes in their trunks for weight saving. I would talk to your local scrutes about how (if) you can get air in to the trunk and comply with the rules.

thstone 12-15-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by specboxCO (Post 428442)
This mod is not going to be spec box legal, otherwise everyone would be cutting holes in their trunks for weight saving. I would talk to your local scrutes about how (if) you can get air in to the trunk and comply with the rules.

I thought that I had mentioned in an earlier post that this mod isn't BSR/SPB legal. If not, sorry.

Chris' Boxster is an S-model anyway, so he runs in the GT class where mods like this are allowed.

With that being said, you have to admit that his approach to engine cooling is serious! :)

cmacduff 12-16-2014 07:48 PM

This is true. For those of you spec guys this mod won't be legal. My POC class is strictly power to weight. Anything else goes so if you have a big pocket book you can off set or compliment your driving. My car is in GT5 and the classes go 6-1 so I am on the bottom end and that is expensive enough.

That being said to answer Sennigen's question about exact temps when I was at AA speedway in Fontana in August ambient temps were 95 give or take. Without the cooler my oil temps were over 250 degrees by the end of a session. At Willow Springs in early September the temps were similar and my oil temps were 225 after a session. When we tested the in box file folder it lowered them another 10 degrees so 215 at the end of a session. I have attached a picture of the scoop and the hole in the trunk. The final scoop was just finished so I don't have data on it yet but my assumption is it will perform just as well as the in box file folder.



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jaykay 12-16-2014 09:47 PM

Awesome set up....love it! Jeez I really need to move out to SoCal! Do you have a transmission oil cooler set up under there as well?

stephen wilson 12-17-2014 03:08 AM

That's looks better than I thought it would, painted black it would blend in well. Still pretty much a track only mod, I don't think golf clubs will fit on top of that !

cmacduff 12-17-2014 07:27 AM

Jus for clarification in my last post the oil cooler was added after AA speedway and before the Willow Springs event. Sure you figured that out.....

Full picture of my car below. 2001 Boxster S

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cmacduff 12-17-2014 07:29 AM

No transmission cooler yet. I try not to run too much in the summer any more. It's just too hot here and heat is a killer!

com3dorm3 12-17-2014 09:06 AM

Car and mods look awesome!

The Radium King 12-17-2014 09:36 AM

are those pole positions - did you see the recent fia ruling on them?

seningen 12-17-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cmacduff (Post 428569)
This is true. For those of you spec guys this mod won't be legal. My POC class is strictly power to weight. Anything else goes so if you have a big pocket book you can off set or compliment your driving. My car is in GT5 and the classes go 6-1 so I am on the bottom end and that is expensive enough.

That being said to answer Sennigen's question about exact temps when I was at AA speedway in Fontana in August ambient temps were 95 give or take. Without the cooler my oil temps were over 250 degrees by the end of a session. At Willow Springs in early September the temps were similar and my oil temps were 225 after a session. When we tested the in box file folder it lowered them another 10 degrees so 215 at the end of a session. I have attached a picture of the scoop and the hole in the trunk. The final scoop was just finished so I don't have data on it yet but my assumption is it will perform just as well as the in box file folder.



http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418791687.jpg


Great data -- and this was what I was envisioning -- I would think that the scoop would do one of two things -- elevate the need for the fans (at any reasonable speed), and/or add extra drag.

Otherwise I like it.

Mike


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