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ohioboxster · 01-03-2007, 06:00 AM

No smoking in bars! I dont go out very often but the other night was my friends birthday. We went out to a local place and it was great not going home smelling like an ash tray. The law is new in for my County and I thjink Im going to like it. Im not a whiney non smoker by the way dont get me wrong but I must admit to liking the change.

I have to edit, its actualy no smoking in public places or within 20' of a public entrance etc etc....

jeffsquire · 01-03-2007, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ohioboxster

No smoking in bars! I dont go out very often but the other night was my friends birthday. We went out to a local place and it was great not going home smelling like an ash tray. The law is new in for my County and I thjink Im going to like it. Im not a whiney non smoker by the way dont get me wrong but I must admit to liking the change.

I have to edit, its actualy no smoking in public places or within 20' of a public entrance etc etc....

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I'm not a smoker except for an occasional cigar, but I'm against these antismoking and anti-transfat laws. I support smokers. IMHO if one doesnt like the smoke in the bar then just find another place and viceversa if you smoke. Or the owners of the establishment are not doing their job.

Can't wait to see the responses on this. . . .. :dance: :ah:

unklekraker · 01-03-2007, 07:04 AM

Same here...not a smoker but I go to Cigar Lounge once a month. I agree with Jeff, IMHO if one doesnt like the smoke in the bar then just find another place and viceversa if you smoke (qoute taken from Jeff post's)

That's why i'ts very rare for me to go to Vegas or Tahoe/Reno, unless I go Snowboarding in North Tahoe and need a place to stay. It's my choice not to go there

But, yah..It fells really good going to a place that is smoke free

FrayAdjacent · 01-03-2007, 07:18 AM

They did that crap here in Austin I think starting last year. I hadn't been down town in quite a while, then in May, I went to meet a woman at a club, and noticed something missing... then I realized... no one is smoking?!?

Yeah, it's nice not smelling like I chainsmoked a carton of Camels when leaving, but it's still odd to me.

I'm all for people's right to choose to poison themselves... and I understand the law as limiting their ability to affect other (innocent?) people... but OTOH, I still think a bar or night club is a place where you should just expect there to be smoke.

z12358 · 01-03-2007, 07:35 AM

It's really simple. Anyone should be free to kill themselves with the method of their choice, as long as they don't affect others while doing so. Hence, anti-transfat laws may be too restrictive as one needs to prove that unhealthy people raise the health care costs for all, but anti-smoking laws are right on the money. The effect to others here is much more clear. NYC has been smoke-free for three years now and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Personally, I consider it a matter of disrespect when someone expects me to breathe the smoke they are exhaling. Yes, even on the street. Assuming that I enjoy recreational spitting, I wonder what a smoker's reaction would be if I spit at them on the street, or at the bar?

Z.

djomlas · 01-03-2007, 07:37 AM

thats one of the worst things ever, going out and comeing back home smelling like an astray.

Perfectlap · 01-03-2007, 07:44 AM

first, think this thread is for the Lounge forum.

second, its way overdue that smoking in ALL shared spaces be banned.
There's little doubt about lethal second hand smoke. Let's stop playing
in the past, we are allot smarter nowadays.

I feel bad for all those people who chose to work in diners and eateries
where they ended up sucking in smoke, getting cancer, dropping dead and they were never smokers themselves or warned about the greater risk of 2nd hand smoke vs. "1st hand smoke".

I'm sorta a libertarian(sp?), do what you want with your body but dont':

1-Expect public assistance to treat your health care bills for your personal choices.
*This includes high cholesterol diets, trans fats should be banned from fast food eateries. Both smoking and cholesterol and the heart attacks and strokes they cause are killing several jumbo jet airliners full of people EVERY DAY.
If you get a physical and your doctor says "lay off the french fries" Medicare should not pay for your future treatment and private insurance rates should be raised for 'high risk' policy holders, much like driving.

2-Don't compromise the quality of life of others so that you can enjoy your choices.

People expect to be able to do whatever they want to do and want everyone else to pay for it.

ohioboxster · 01-03-2007, 07:54 AM

Perfectlap,
I didnt put it in the lounge in case a smoker wanted to read it, duh.

Bavarian Motorist · 01-03-2007, 08:06 PM

Haha. NY does not allow smoking in public buildings.

NY is civilized. I love NY

EDIT: Just read some of the thread.

Unlike smoking, people using automobiles and creating fumes has a purpose. A REAL meaningful useful efficient purpose.

You can't make the same argument for cigarettes, therefore the two are not comparable.

/end discussion.

super66 · 01-03-2007, 09:50 PM

lots of .02 flying around but that's just my .02

Nickcats....man I used to smoke like a fiend.....1 and a half to 2 packs a day...lucky strikes no filter or my favorite camel wide lights....one day I caught a flu/cold that nagged me for about a week and a half, during that time my brother quit smoking...once I got better I decided not to smoke since I didn't want to tempt him.....weird but I quit just like that....all my friends still smoke and can't believe I kicked tha habit so easily.....

now if I could only see chocolate out of my life in such a manner

give it up when you can, you won't believe how much better you will feel....the change is like nothing else....

jeffsquire · 01-04-2007, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Motorist

Haha. NY does not allow smoking in public buildings.
Unlike smoking, people using automobiles and creating fumes has a purpose. A REAL meaningful useful efficient purpose /end discussion.

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What possible, useful purpose could be in owning a HUMMVEE, a Ferrari, any SUV, or a Porsche for that matter when there are much more fuel efficient cars and trucks out there? They're not efficient and mostly serve no purpose except the wants and ego of the owner, including myself. At least I admit it.

But at this time I'll join the likes of MNboxster and Bavarian Motorist and end my .02 cents. We all have opinions, I'm merely expressing mine as a nonsmoker.