Light pole > Porsche

[gRed04]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

I only have the federal statistics handy, and it would take a more work than I'm willing to do right now to get you the State and local numbers, but the simple explanation is that your percentages are waaaay off. Below are the actual Bureau of Prisons numbers, including every last prisoner as of November 26, 2006. You'll see that not only aren't blacks 85% of the Federal prison population, they aren't even close to the majority.

White 109,064 (56.4%)
Black 77,714 (40.2%)
Native Am. 3,342 ( 1.7%)
Asian 3,239 ( 1.7%)

( my apologies Grizzly just noticed you said Federal only )

I am pretty sure your numbers are way off. I believe we had approx. 2M people in state and federal prisons at the end of 2005. Another 2M in probation and work/release programs.

US Dept of Justice would have breakdowns by race, crime, state ....

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by gRed04

I am pretty sure your numbers are way off. I believe we had approx. 2M people in state and federal prisons at the end of 2005. Another 2M in probation and work/release programs.

US Dept of Justice would have breakdowns by race, crime, state ....

If you read what I wrote, you'll see that this is the Federal Prison Population Only. I can try to account for all 2+ million prisoners nationwide. The Federal numbers are what I have at my disposal.

[gRed04]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

If you read what I wrote, you'll see that this is the Federal Prison Population Only. I can try to account for all 2+ million prisoners nationwide. The Federal numbers are what I have at my disposal.

Caught that a little too late and apologized in a edit in my post.

[dbth]

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Rcedrg00-01.htm

The disproportionate representation of black Americans in the U.S. criminal justice system is well documented.Blacks comprise 13 percent of the national population, 41 percent of people in jail.
One in three black men between the ages of 20 and 29 was either in jail or prison, or on parole or probation in 1995.One in ten black men in their twenties and early thirties is in prison or jail. Thirteen percent of the black adult male population has lost the right to vote because of felony disenfranchisement laws.

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Hard to keep a family together when all the dads are in the joint....

[986Roadster]

OMG stop this insane thread that has nothing to do with the car being stolen and smashed. the next fool to post really has too much time on there hands.

gone too far.

[dbth]

Great thread , seeing different views...

A thread on Adolph Hitler's commisioned race car ended up debating Cuba and exiles.

Don't fear enlightment.

[986Roadster]

i can't wait until vijen6 checks this post. gonna be like what the!!! what did i start! i think something really is wrong, where did he go............he hasn't replied back!!!

[jeffsquire]

Boy, where to begin.

Bruce lee, once again please don’t delete this. You’d only be fueling pot-stirrers of polical correctness. I agree with everything you say about hyphenated racial characteristics in addressing race in this country. It doenst matter. In fact I find it ridiculous. But just remember the thread started with this:

This story involves 4 cop cars, a fence jump, 3-4 african americans with a possible gun, a light pole, and last but not least, my porsche. Just need some drugs content and a few females and this could be a block buster movie.

Followed by this:

Hummm African Americans involved in a crime..are you sure? according to Reverend Al they don't do such things, they just get bad press from the Po Po.

Followed by this:

I am sure they were just fine young men who wanted to possess something the white man stole from their ancestors. Thousands of years ago they were all kings and queens who probably had their own car very similar to today's Porsche.

Then Grizz posted this:

This thread is well on its way to being deleted by the forum Police. Please be careful gentlemen, so I can learn what actually happened to the car.

Followed by a modicum of reason by this:

wow who cares what colour they were, and where they came from and where they went......not one of you asked the guy if he was okay! hope you are okay vijen6, don't worry about the car, it can be fixed. please do fill us in. looks like some guys tried to steal the ride, but also seems like they got caught.

Grizz then opined that we need the facts. But I submit that it doesn’t even matter. Who cares if his white porsche was destroyed by the criminal agency of black men? Is his car any less damaged? No.The point is: who is the progenator of hyphens and color/race on this thread? Obviously race still matters to some. Hell, they damaged his car!!!

Finally, after all the debate, hoopla, anger and stats, we still heard this:

4 angry 'african american' dressed in 'gangster thug' style road raging. Trying to run me off the road. Possible gun in the back. I'm by myself. **************** that.. ……The ranking officer on scene sat on me on the sidewalk like I was a Mexican about to be deported.

I find this incredulous, but hey, the RX/Mustang/Rvand other dotcoms have gotta be laughing about who really lurks in the dark corridors of 986 Forum.
Finally, let me quote Grizz: I'm very disappointed. . . .
I’ll leave this dead horse to be beaten. . . . .. .

So what we have here is a group of black men attacked a white forum member while he was harmlessly driving around in his Porsche. That seems to be an accurate description of the events and I see no reason why we should not describe it as such.

Problem is you cannot say the truth anymore because you might offend the gangster blacks, the Canadians (especially the humorless french ones) or even the Cubans which is incredibly ironic since Cubans openly distinguish themselves from one another by about 10 different shades of pigmentation.

Originally Posted by jeffsquire

4 angry 'african american' dressed in 'gangster thug' style road raging. Trying to run me off the road. Possible gun in the back. I'm by myself. **************** that.. ……The ranking officer on scene sat on me on the sidewalk like I was a Mexican about to be deported.

[Franco]

Mamma mia ma che stanno dicendo questi ragazzi.

Je ne comprend pas ce qui se passe ici.

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by gRed04

Caught that a little too late and apologized in a edit in my post.

You didn't owe me an apology, dude. We're just having a conversation.

By the way, the nationwide numbers pretty closely mimic the Federal prison numbers as far as percentages go. I found it in a PDF format, but I'm too stupid to be able to figure out how to copy it here. The long and short of it is that dbth's figures are right on the mark at approximately 41%. My only point was that it was not 85% of the prison population.

[Franco]

Thanks to somebody on this FORUM i discovered i was living in a communist country I just new my parents made a mistake when emigrating to CANADA (AMERICA).
Guess who the jerk is went on & on & on & on & on about the love for his EX country.
WHO STOPPED THAT HISTORIAN, NOBODY!
Be careful this is BAIT for all the jerks who think they know it all.

PS; And some forum members were disappointed they missed that stupid thread
Grow up.

[super66]

Originally Posted by Franco

Thanks to somebody on this FORUM i discovered i was living in a communist country I just new my parents made a mistake when emigrating to CANADA (AMERICA).
Guess who the jerk is went on & on & on & on & on about the love for his EX country.
WHO STOPPED THAT HISTORIAN, NOBODY!
Be careful this is BAIT for all the jerks who think they know it all.

PS; And some forum members were disappointed they missed that stupid thread
Grow up.

ah....yes and I thought I was done here....I stopped reading a lot of what that individual posts because much like in this post its rather rude....regardless of whether he is from that country or not....

I feel for Kronix, I never saw what got him kicked off but I saw a lot of the crap that was being spewed back and forth disrespecting Canada.....enough is enough

[Franco]

Originally Posted by super66

ah....yes and I thought I was done here....I stopped reading a lot of what that individual posts because much like in this post its rather rude....regardless of whether he is from that country or not....

I feel for Kronix, I never saw what got him kicked off but I saw a lot of the crap that was being spewed back and forth disrespecting Canada.....enough is enough

I'm cool thanks

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by super66

ah....yes and I thought I was done here....I stopped reading a lot of what that individual posts because much like in this post its rather rude....regardless of whether he is from that country or not....

I feel for Kronix, I never saw what got him kicked off but I saw a lot of the crap that was being spewed back and forth disrespecting Canada.....enough is enough

Again, for the record, Kronix was banned for his profanity laced PM to me and his direct threats to assault me if he hever saw me in person.

We don't really like it when the owner is threatened. It makes him testy!

[Brucelee]

Non-sequitur: The other day on my morning commute, I stopped at a red light. A young suit on a cell phone decided to cut through a corner parking lot rather than wait for the light and zipped into the lot. The morning sun must have blinded him cause he smacked head on into the cement base of a light pole. He crumpled the front, the hood popped open and steam shot out. It was f'n great!!

Now, that would be funny to see!

[Brucelee]

http://www.hoover.org/pubaffairs/dailyreport/archive/2867071.html

For anyone with an interest in a rationale and rigorous discussion of race and racism in America, I recommend Shelby Steele's papers and books.

See above for a sample.

Thanks

[mquillen]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Non-sequitur: The other day on my morning commute, I stopped at a red light. A young suit on a cell phone decided to cut through a corner parking lot rather than wait for the light and zipped into the lot. The morning sun must have blinded him cause he smacked head on into the cement base of a light pole. He crumpled the front, the hood popped open and steam shot out. It was f'n great!!

Now, that would be funny to see!

Funny, really, Brucelee? I'm disappointed in you. I think this board is going downhill fast. Too many immature points of view. And no, Vijen, I don't believe your story either. Learn to drive. Stay away from light poles, and also maybe thugs in SUVs. If there was an SUV involved at all, you probably cut them off and they were ticked. Your attitude reeks with your own self acknowledged superiority.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by mquillen

Funny, really, Brucelee? I'm disappointed in you..

I don't think I can live with this!

Oh my, I think I am being called a jerk! One thing about Canadians is they never stop whining. It comes from being born in a country where everything is a big #2 to the US. Soon though you will be living in the country of Quebec so you will not be Canadian much longer. Once they frenchies take control of everything we will see how fast you head back to America.

And, by the way, Knoxnuts was kicked off for something completely unrelated to me. It was after he was kicked off that he returned to threaten and kill me for giving out honest information on Canadian culture.

Ok, todays joke:

An American, a Scot and a Canuk were in a terrible car accident. They were all brought to the same emergency room, but all three of them died before they arrived. Just as they were about to put the toe tag on the American, he stirred and opened his eyes. Astonished, the doctors and nurses present asked him what happened.

"Well," said the American, "I remember the crash, and then there was a beautiful light, and then the Canadian and the Scot and I were standing at the gates of heaven. St. Peter approached us and said that we were all too young to die, and that for a donation of $100, we could return to the earth."

He continued, " So of course, I pulled out my wallet and gave him the $100, and the next thing I knew I was back here."

"That's amazing!" said one of the doctors, "But what happened to the other two?"

"Last I saw them," replied the American, "the Scot was haggling over the price and the Canadian was waiting for the government to pay for his."

Originally Posted by Franco

Thanks to somebody on this FORUM i discovered i was living in a communist country I just new my parents made a mistake when emigrating to CANADA (AMERICA).
Guess who the jerk is went on & on & on & on & on about the love for his EX country.
WHO STOPPED THAT HISTORIAN, NOBODY!
Be careful this is BAIT for all the jerks who think they know it all.

PS; And some forum members were disappointed they missed that stupid thread
Grow up.