Go Back   986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Post Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-02-2023, 07:18 AM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 20
2002 Boxster S No electrical Power at all

Hello everyone, new member here. After trying to figure out my no power issue on 2002 Boxster S race car I gave up and don't really know what else to do. Before hauling the car to a Porsche mechanic, wanted to see if someone here had similar issue and may be able to help.
My Boxster suddenly lost all electrical power to it. I tried new battery, checked the kill switch, replaced the ignition switch, checked fuses, including distributor box 80 amp fuse, checked immobilizer fuse, opened the box (immobilizer) and looked for any corrosion-all good.
It is no longer under the seat but somewhere between door bar and door, so no getting really soaked issue here.
Any suggestions?

gtsracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2023, 11:24 AM   #2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Keller, TX
Posts: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtsracer View Post
Hello everyone, new member here. After trying to figure out my no power issue on 2002 Boxster S race car I gave up and don't really know what else to do. Before hauling the car to a Porsche mechanic, wanted to see if someone here had similar issue and may be able to help.
My Boxster suddenly lost all electrical power to it. I tried new battery, checked the kill switch, replaced the ignition switch, checked fuses, including distributor box 80 amp fuse, checked immobilizer fuse, opened the box (immobilizer) and looked for any corrosion-all good.
It is no longer under the seat but somewhere between door bar and door, so no getting really soaked issue here.
Any suggestions?
I had the same problem. It was the alternator. I replaced it and everything worked fine. It helps if you have the Bentley Service manual to do the replacement.
__________________
2002 Boxster S
EdPrem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2023, 12:35 PM   #3
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 20
So complete electrical failure due to alternator? I thought the good battery at least will light up display for sure. Will check the alternator. Thanks
gtsracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2023, 08:35 AM   #4
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Keller, TX
Posts: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtsracer View Post
So complete electrical failure due to alternator? I thought the good battery at least will light up display for sure. Will check the alternator. Thanks
My battery lasted about 3 minutes after the alternator went out.
__________________
2002 Boxster S
EdPrem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2023, 11:26 AM   #5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,856
If battery turns out to be ok, check where the battery positive cable connects at the firewall.
Gilles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2023, 12:23 PM   #6
Registered User
 
seningen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: austin
Posts: 824
Take the battery out -- connect a charger to the car -- do you get things to wake up?

Sometimes a battery will fail internally and short things out -- even to the extent you can't jump it.

Also check the negative terminal and negative connection from the battery to the chassis.

I would also look for voltage at various points around the car.
__________________
Drivers: '15 Panamera Hybrid (wife's), ' 01 996 GT2, 00 Boxster S, '96 993 Çab/Tip (wife's)
Race Cars: '75 911 RSR Replica & '99 Spec Boxster
mike@lonestarrpm.com
seningen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2023, 04:37 PM   #7
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 20
Checked, looks normal.
gtsracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2023, 04:39 PM   #8
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by seningen View Post
Take the battery out -- connect a charger to the car -- do you get things to wake up?

Sometimes a battery will fail internally and short things out -- even to the extent you can't jump it.

Also check the negative terminal and negative connection from the battery to the chassis.

I would also look for voltage at various points around the car.
Will check. Thanks
Tried but without success.
I ordered voltage regulator from FCP ($40 with shipping) will try it.

Last edited by gtsracer; 05-03-2023 at 04:47 PM.
gtsracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2023, 04:49 PM   #9
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilles View Post
If battery turns out to be ok, check where the battery positive cable connects at the firewall.
Looks normal. The one next to power steering, right?
gtsracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2023, 08:43 AM   #10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,856
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtsracer View Post
Looks normal. The one next to power steering, right?
No, the connector I am talking about is in the front luggage compartment (close to the battery) and it goes through the firewall.

At least on the 987 (this connector that goes through the firewall) is part of a "power module" that is located behind the glove compartment, it connects to the positive battery cable and powers the 'power module' that includes high amp fuses.

On the 987, the battery cable plugs into this connector with a strange "spring" type friction plug that you have to pull hard to disconnect, no clips, no nuts.. it just attaches the cable to the plug with tension.

On my car I pulled the cable from the rod, use a fine emery paper (2000 wet sand paper) to polish the rod, and cleaned the spring type connector at the end of the cable with a toothbrush using a solution of water and baking soda, to remove the greenish 'acid'..? then used electric contact cleaner and once it dried, I used dielectric grease on both, the rod and the spring connector, a common practice when you have Italian cars ..lol Afterwards I never had that issue again.

Hopefully this helps
Gilles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2023, 03:21 PM   #11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Tucson, Arizona
Posts: 78
Disconnect your battery from the car terminals and measure the voltage. What do you measure?
Bush Pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2023, 08:12 AM   #12
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bush Pilot View Post
Disconnect your battery from the car terminals and measure the voltage. What do you measure?
I have 12.9V on my battery
gtsracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2023, 08:19 AM   #13
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bush Pilot View Post
Disconnect your battery from the car terminals and measure the voltage. What do you measure?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilles View Post
No, the connector I am talking about is in the front luggage compartment (close to the battery) and it goes through the firewall.

At least on the 987 (this connector that goes through the firewall) is part of a "power module" that is located behind the glove compartment, it connects to the positive battery cable and powers the 'power module' that includes high amp fuses.

On the 987, the battery cable plugs into this connector with a strange "spring" type friction plug that you have to pull hard to disconnect, no clips, no nuts.. it just attaches the cable to the plug with tension.

On my car I pulled the cable from the rod, use a fine emery paper (2000 wet sand paper) to polish the rod, and cleaned the spring type connector at the end of the cable with a toothbrush using a solution of water and baking soda, to remove the greenish 'acid'..? then used electric contact cleaner and once it dried, I used dielectric grease on both, the rod and the spring connector, a common practice when you have Italian cars ..lol Afterwards I never had that issue again.

Hopefully this helps
Seems like mine has cable going from the positive battery terminal to a kill switch. Can not find anything that resembles connector you described. May be it is 987 only. Thanks
gtsracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2023, 10:30 AM   #14
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: NC
Posts: 2
Watch this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=306zXxRypF8
I had my AC module go dark this week and this trick worked to get it back. Cheap, quick, and worth a try before trowing parts at it.
JTT99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2023, 03:19 PM   #15
1998 Boxster Silver/Red
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: 92262
Posts: 2,918
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtsracer View Post
I have 12.9V on my battery
Sounds like a good battery. Next step is to proceed with the advice given. Good luck.
__________________
1998 Porsche Boxster
Starter986 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2023, 02:38 AM   #16
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: NJ
Posts: 87
Re-reading your original post, what’s this “kill switch” you refer to?
__________________
Tom Coradeschi
03 Boxster
tcoradeschi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2023, 04:31 AM   #17
Registered User
 
Bill Ladd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Wilmington NC
Posts: 106
Garage
Sounds like you have a multimeter. Start tracing voltage from the battery and move down the circuit path until you no longer have voltage.

Do you have 12.9v to ground at the line side of the kill switch? If so, do you have 12.9v to ground at the load side of the switch once you’ve turned it to the on position?

I’ve never been around a Boxster race car, but used to race a Formula Ford. Much simpler wiring scheme on a race car. This shouldn’t be too hard to figure out.
Bill Ladd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2023, 06:40 AM   #18
Registered User
 
seningen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: austin
Posts: 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcoradeschi View Post
Re-reading your original post, what’s this “kill switch” you refer to?
Racer thing -- not on a street car.

Since you have a voltmeter -- start measuring voltages at different places around the car -- find an online wiring diagram to find the locations you should have 12v.

Especially check the connector at the front/top of the engine compartment. It sort of a jumped box from the engine area to the front of the car (and your battery). It's a simple post with a 10 or 13mm nut that could have worked its way loose.

There is also the fuse box behind/under the dash/glovebox (if you have one) that connects to the battery and has some master fuses there.

Mike
__________________
Drivers: '15 Panamera Hybrid (wife's), ' 01 996 GT2, 00 Boxster S, '96 993 Çab/Tip (wife's)
Race Cars: '75 911 RSR Replica & '99 Spec Boxster
mike@lonestarrpm.com
seningen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2023, 10:37 AM   #19
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,856
Quote:
Originally Posted by seningen View Post
There is also the fuse box behind/under the dash/glovebox (if you have one) that connects to the battery and has some master fuses there.
This fuse box has a rod that goes through the firewall and plugs with the + battery cable (with a funky connector), this is where the failure occurred on my 987.. just giggle the cable (at this connector) with the ignition on, to see if you regain power.
.
Gilles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2023, 03:21 PM   #20
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcoradeschi View Post
Re-reading your original post, what’s this “kill switch” you refer to?
Kill switch is the switch to kill all the power to the car in case of accident.

gtsracer is offline   Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Tags
electrical problem , porsche 986 no power



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page