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		|  05-02-2023, 07:18 AM | #1 |  
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				2002 Boxster S No electrical Power at all
			 
 
			Hello everyone, new member here. After trying to figure out my no power issue on 2002 Boxster S race car I gave up and don't really know what else to do. Before hauling the car to a Porsche mechanic, wanted to see if someone here had similar issue and may be able to help. 
My Boxster suddenly lost all electrical power to it. I tried new battery, checked the kill switch, replaced the ignition switch, checked fuses, including distributor box 80 amp fuse, checked immobilizer fuse, opened the box (immobilizer) and looked for any corrosion-all good.  
It is no longer under the seat but somewhere between door bar and door, so no getting really soaked issue here. 
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		|  05-02-2023, 11:24 AM | #2 |  
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					Originally Posted by gtsracer  Hello everyone, new member here. After trying to figure out my no power issue on 2002 Boxster S race car I gave up and don't really know what else to do. Before hauling the car to a Porsche mechanic, wanted to see if someone here had similar issue and may be able to help.My Boxster suddenly lost all electrical power to it. I tried new battery, checked the kill switch, replaced the ignition switch, checked fuses, including distributor box 80 amp fuse, checked immobilizer fuse, opened the box (immobilizer) and looked for any corrosion-all good.
 It is no longer under the seat but somewhere between door bar and door, so no getting really soaked issue here.
 Any suggestions?
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I had the same problem.  It was the alternator.  I replaced it and everything worked fine. It helps if you have the Bentley Service manual to do the replacement.
		 
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		|  05-02-2023, 12:35 PM | #3 |  
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			So complete electrical failure due to alternator? I thought the good battery at least will light up display for sure. Will check the alternator. Thanks
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		|  05-03-2023, 08:35 AM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by gtsracer  So complete electrical failure due to alternator? I thought the good battery at least will light up display for sure. Will check the alternator. Thanks |  
My battery lasted about 3 minutes after the alternator went out.
		 
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		|  05-03-2023, 11:26 AM | #5 |  
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			If battery turns out to be ok, check where the battery positive cable connects at the firewall.
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		|  05-03-2023, 12:23 PM | #6 |  
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			Take the battery out -- connect a charger to the car -- do you get things to wake up?
 Sometimes a battery will fail internally and short things out -- even to the extent you can't jump it.
 
 Also check the negative terminal and negative connection from the battery to the chassis.
 
 I would also look for voltage at various points around the car.
 
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		|  05-03-2023, 04:37 PM | #7 |  
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			Checked, looks normal.
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		|  05-03-2023, 04:39 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by seningen  Take the battery out -- connect a charger to the car -- do you get things to wake up?
 Sometimes a battery will fail internally and short things out -- even to the extent you can't jump it.
 
 Also check the negative terminal and negative connection from the battery to the chassis.
 
 I would also look for voltage at various points around the car.
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Will check. Thanks 
Tried but without success. 
I ordered voltage regulator from FCP ($40 with shipping) will try it.
		 
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		|  05-03-2023, 04:49 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Gilles  If battery turns out to be ok, check where the battery positive cable connects at the firewall. |  
Looks normal. The one next to power steering, right?
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		|  05-04-2023, 08:43 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by gtsracer  Looks normal. The one next to power steering, right? |  
No, the connector I am talking about is in the front luggage compartment (close to the battery) and it goes through the firewall. 
 
At least on the 987 (this connector that goes through the firewall) is part of a "power module" that is located behind the glove compartment, it connects to the positive battery cable and powers the 'power module' that includes high amp fuses.
 
On the 987, the battery cable plugs into this connector with a strange "spring" type friction plug that you have to pull hard to disconnect, no clips, no nuts.. it just attaches the cable to the plug  with tension.
 
On my car I pulled the cable from the rod, use a fine emery paper (2000 wet sand paper) to polish the rod, and cleaned the spring type connector at the end of the cable with a toothbrush using a solution of water and baking soda, to remove the greenish 'acid'..? then used electric contact cleaner and once it dried, I used dielectric grease on both, the rod and the spring connector, a common practice when you have Italian cars ..lol  Afterwards I never had that issue again.
 
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		|  05-04-2023, 03:21 PM | #11 |  
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			Disconnect your battery from the car terminals and measure the voltage.  What do you measure?
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		|  05-05-2023, 08:12 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bush Pilot  Disconnect your battery from the car terminals and measure the voltage.  What do you measure? |  
I have 12.9V on my battery
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		|  05-05-2023, 08:19 AM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bush Pilot  Disconnect your battery from the car terminals and measure the voltage.  What do you measure? |  
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					Originally Posted by Gilles  No, the connector I am talking about is in the front luggage compartment (close to the battery) and it goes through the firewall.  
At least on the 987 (this connector that goes through the firewall) is part of a "power module" that is located behind the glove compartment, it connects to the positive battery cable and powers the 'power module' that includes high amp fuses.
 
On the 987, the battery cable plugs into this connector with a strange "spring" type friction plug that you have to pull hard to disconnect, no clips, no nuts.. it just attaches the cable to the plug  with tension.
 
On my car I pulled the cable from the rod, use a fine emery paper (2000 wet sand paper) to polish the rod, and cleaned the spring type connector at the end of the cable with a toothbrush using a solution of water and baking soda, to remove the greenish 'acid'..? then used electric contact cleaner and once it dried, I used dielectric grease on both, the rod and the spring connector, a common practice when you have Italian cars ..lol  Afterwards I never had that issue again.
 
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Seems like mine has cable going from the positive battery terminal to a kill switch. Can not find anything that resembles connector you described. May be it is 987 only. Thanks
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		|  05-07-2023, 10:30 AM | #14 |  
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			Watch this vid:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=306zXxRypF8 
I had my AC module go dark this week and this trick worked to get it back. Cheap, quick, and worth a try before trowing parts at it.    |  
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		|  05-08-2023, 03:19 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by gtsracer  I have 12.9V on my battery |  
Sounds like a good battery. Next step is to proceed with the advice given. Good luck.    
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		|  05-09-2023, 02:38 AM | #16 |  
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			Re-reading your original post, what’s this “kill switch” you refer to?
		 
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		|  05-09-2023, 04:31 AM | #17 |  
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			Sounds like you have a multimeter. Start tracing voltage from the battery and move down the circuit path until you no longer have voltage.
 Do you have 12.9v to ground at the line side of the kill switch? If so, do you have 12.9v to ground at the load side of the switch once you’ve turned it to the on position?
 
 I’ve never been around a Boxster race car, but used to race a Formula Ford. Much simpler wiring scheme on a race car. This shouldn’t be too hard to figure out.
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		|  05-09-2023, 06:40 AM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by tcoradeschi  Re-reading your original post, what’s this “kill switch” you refer to? |  
Racer thing -- not on a street car.
 
Since you have a voltmeter -- start measuring voltages at different places around the car -- find an online wiring diagram to find the locations you should have 12v.
  
Especially check the connector at the front/top of the engine compartment.  It sort of a jumped box from the engine area to the front of the car (and your battery).  It's a simple post with a 10 or 13mm nut that could have worked its way loose.
 
There is also the fuse box behind/under the dash/glovebox (if you have one) that connects to the battery and has some master fuses there.
 
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		|  05-09-2023, 10:37 AM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by seningen   There is also the fuse box behind/under the dash/glovebox (if you have one) that connects to the battery and has some master fuses there.
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 This fuse box has a rod that goes through the firewall and plugs with the + battery cable (with a funky connector), this is where the failure occurred on my 987.. just giggle the cable (at this connector) with the ignition on, to see if you regain power. 
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		|  05-09-2023, 03:21 PM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by tcoradeschi  Re-reading your original post, what’s this “kill switch” you refer to? |  
Kill switch is the switch to kill  all the power to the car in case of accident.
		 
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