May Get A New Car.

[Brucelee]

"Well, my point about the H3 was not necessarily about contributing to global warming but simply contributing to excessive consumption and abusive usage of natural resources"

This suggests that there is an appropriate level of "consumption" and a "non-abusive" usage of natural resources.

I am wondering how you define them? To some, the ownership of a car is sufficient to signal an inappropriate useage of "natural resources" IE oil I presume. These folks would have you fiding the bus, taking the train, riding your bicycle.

To others, the H3 is perfectly fine and it is the jet airliner that is to blame.

Where is the line drawn? Where is the gold standard? When will we run out of oil?

Hint, not in our lifetime or your kid's either. Or their kid's either.

Good topic though.

[jeffsquire]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

"Well, my point about the H3 was not necessarily about contributing to global warming but simply contributing to excessive consumption and abusive usage of natural resources"

This suggests that there is an appropriate level of "consumption" and a "non-abusive" usage of natural resources.

I am wondering how you define them? To some, the ownership of a car is sufficient to signal an inappropriate useage of "natural resources" IE oil I presume. These folks would have you fiding the bus, taking the train, riding your bicycle.

To others, the H3 is perfectly fine and it is the jet airliner that is to blame.

Good topic though.

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How about the school of thought that owning a sporty, expensive, mediocre-fuel efficient porsche is as bad as owning a H3. Top that off with, GOD FORBID, owning a SECOND car. A BMW, maybe, or toyota. Do you really need two cars unless they're Prius'?

That line you pegged, Brucelee, is one continuing shifting SOB.

[Dr. Kill]

Originally Posted by jeffsquire

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How about the school of thought that owning a sporty, expensive, mediocre-fuel efficient porsche is as bad as owning a H3. Top that off with, GOD FORBID, owning a SECOND car. A BMW, maybe, or toyota. Do you really need two cars unless they're Prius'?

That line you pegged, Brucelee, is one continuing shifting SOB.

How dare you - a hybrid? And what do you suggest we should do with all of those batteries once they need to be swapped out?

Dog sleds made from trees that were naturally killed by lightning strikes. That is the only environmentally responsible form of travel.

[z12358]

I'm glad so many here are having fun and chuckles about the environment. I guess, as long as the trees, springs, lakes, and beaches in MY neighborhood are OK (or at least appear to be upon cursory inspection) as I enjoy them while riding in MY Box, all is good with the world.

It's a shame but looks like this old planet is eventually going to find a way to get rid of us humans for the ultimate pests that we are -- our existance but a blink in it's multi-billion year history. We'd deserve it if we don't wake up soon.

It's amazing how many wouldn't think twice on spending $$ on oil changes, wheel upgrades, gas stabilizers, car covers, and wax for preserving their Box but the concept of preserving the ultimate vehicle (Earth) that flies us through cold dark space eludes them. That one can take care of itself, no matter how hard we "ride" it, I guess.

Z.

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by z12358

I'm glad so many here are having fun and chuckles about the environment. I guess, as long as the trees, springs, lakes, and beaches in MY neighborhood are OK (or at least appear to be upon cursory inspection) as I enjoy them while riding in MY Box, all is good with the world.

It's a shame but looks like this old planet is eventually going to find a way to get rid of us humans for the ultimate pests that we are -- our existance but a blink in it's multi-billion year history. We'd deserve it if we don't wake up soon.

It's amazing how many wouldn't think twice on spending $$ on oil changes, wheel upgrades, gas stabilizers, car covers, and wax for preserving their Box but the concept of preserving the ultimate vehicle (Earth) that flies us through cold dark space eludes them. That one can take care of itself, no matter how hard we "ride" it, I guess.

Z.

Thanks for the lecture. It is great that your "wisdom" is the light in an otherwise foolhardy forum we call 986!

Now, put your money where your mouth is. Sell your Boxster and buy a bike. Then, start eliminating every creature comfort in your life and you will be spiritually pure and superior to us mere greedy mortals.

Me, I have to go change my oil (which I will take to the recycling center like a good little boy!)

[Brucelee]

Let me be clear.

I ride a motorcycle that gets 55 MPG. I also drive a 4 cylinder Subaru.

I recycle.

I just don't feel all that superior about it and I don't rain on those Hummer guys parade.

Hey, I am sure there is something that I am doing that annoys them.

Freedom, try some!

[z12358]

"Freedom, try some!"

Just did. Hopefully no one had a problem with that.

Z.