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MichaelV 05-16-2019 06:36 AM

986 and 996 Led Drl Gen 2 Headlights
 
As some of you might've seen, I've upgraded the tail lights on my 1999 986 with the new 718 style tail lights. They completely transformed the rear end of my car. The only issue was I still had the ugly and dated egg headlights with the orange turn signals. I've recently put on the new Xtreme Motorcars Gen 2 headlights for the 986 and 996 and I can happily say my car looks 20 years newer now. The car just looks absolutely stunning and the build quality of the headlights are amazing. Everywhere I go I get stares and compliments as people think my car is brand new because they've never seen a car with these headlights before. I'm wondering why the headlights weren't the first mod I did to this car haha.****

These are projector headlights as well so the night time visibility is much more improved over the stock headlights. I'm able to see so much more than I used to.

I also made a video demonstrating the lights as well as a few pics so you guys could get a better look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFFTJGziSNo

Here is the link to them for those that are curious:****http://www.vendio.com/stores/www.xtrememotorcars.com/item/car-truck-parts-headlights/porsche-boxster-986-996-mk1-bl/lid=48918472


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rexcramer 05-16-2019 06:55 AM

Well done sir. They do look nice. Price seems reasonable also. I will admit that I prefer the OEM. Long live the 'fried eggs'.

MichaelV 05-16-2019 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rexcramer (Post 595222)
Well done sir. They do look nice. Price seems reasonable also. I will admit that I prefer the OEM. Long live the 'fried eggs'.

Thanks! To each his own, but the fried egg headlights didn't fit with the car anymore once I upgraded the tail lights lol. Plus the oem lights all seem to yellow up even if you get them refinished.

Qckslvr 05-16-2019 08:55 AM

I have seen these and have been thinking about getting a set. The thing is my car is white. So these lights make my car look like it has two black eyes. I too did the 718 tail lights, but also installed the Toth rear spoiler.

Question did you have regular headlights or Litronics before? If you had the Lits to do you think these are brighter?

My headlights are in great shape, but the thought of having to replace one Litronic assembly scares the crap out of me LOL.

Starter986 05-16-2019 09:05 AM

Those. Look. Awesome.

Definately updates the car. Nice move. I'm sold.

So... now I start saving... and those headlights come first.

Cheers!

particlewave 05-16-2019 09:20 AM

Those headlights would look dope on an old Honda Civic with a fart can exhaust. :D
I can't believe they're still getting people to buy them.

They will be yellowed, peeling and failing electronically in a year or less.
Sorry that you wasted so much money on them because they are junk. :(

piper6909 05-16-2019 09:21 AM

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They look great! Those are very similar to the ones that came with my car. I still have the originals in case I want to install them, but I agree with Starter, they do update the car.

Jgkram 05-16-2019 09:37 AM

First, I applaud anyone willing to spend time, energy and effort (not to mention money) on trying to upgrade and treat these cars well. However, in the end I have to agree with Charles on this one. We seem to be losing the respect and admiration for what this car really is and has become which is a classic in every sense of the word. They are beautifully crafted cars in their own right and we seem to continue to try to turn them into something they were never meant to be by applying more and more makeup. At some point they look more like a street walker rather than the beautiful girl she really is. Again, I take nothing away from what you did and credit you for it. If it's right for you...well done and go for it.

Finnegan 05-16-2019 09:54 AM

I've never liked the look of this type of headlight, on any car. Glad you're happy with the mod, though!

tommy583 05-16-2019 10:04 AM

While I think these headlights look better than the old style of the aftermarket lights, i'd still be worried about the quality. The older style had many issues of the LED's burning out with no way to replace them. I hope yours last a long time, but for $1000 i'll be sticking with these.

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MichaelV 05-16-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Qckslvr (Post 595232)
I have seen these and have been thinking about getting a set. The thing is my car is white. So these lights make my car look like it has two black eyes. I too did the 718 tail lights, but also installed the Toth rear spoiler.

Question did you have regular headlights or Litronics before? If you had the Lits to do you think these are brighter?

My headlights are in great shape, but the thought of having to replace one Litronic assembly scares the crap out of me LOL.

They make a clear(chrome) version as well. But I think the black matches better with the tail lights. I've seen a white car with the black ones but i can't find the pic. Heres a pic of the white with chrome headlights. And here's the link to those

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-Boxster-986-996-MK1-Chrome-LED-DRL-Projector-Headlights-set-or-pair-of-2/181086254028?hash=item2a2994f3cc:g:PJsAAOSwQIFbyQ3 3
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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 595242)
Those headlights would look dope on an old Honda Civic with a fart can exhaust. :D
I can't believe they're still getting people to buy them.

They will be yellowed, peeling and failing electronically in a year or less.
Sorry that you wasted so much money on them because they are junk. :(

These are the gen 2 version and they are updated to not have any of those issues anymore and they also have a warranty.

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Originally Posted by tommy583 (Post 595249)
While I think these headlights look better than the old style of the aftermarket lights, i'd still be worried about the quality. The older style had many issues of the LED's burning out with no way to replace them. I hope yours last a long time, but for $1000 i'll be sticking with these.

As I said above these are the gen 2 version which have had all those issues corrected and they also come with a warranty so there should be no worry. I've had them on my car for a month now without an issue.

Starter986 05-16-2019 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 595243)
They look great! Those are very similar to the ones that came with my car. I still have the originals in case I want to install them, but I agree with Starter, they do update the car.

That looks soooooo good. Nice and clean. Do you find they fit well? No gaps here and there? Are you running the 718 lights on the back?

And your wheels... the stock color. I'm missing mine now. I have two sets: gloss black and a semi-metallic grey/silver. I think I'm going to change a set back to the stock color.

PW likely is correct in that a year the lights will peter out, as he is quite knowledgeable about our headlights and tail lights. I'm looking forward to your critique in 12 months... how they've held up. ;)

Now you just need a set of clear side markers.

Cheers!

Starter986 05-16-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgkram (Post 595246)
First, I applaud anyone willing to spend time, energy and effort (not to mention money) on trying to upgrade and treat these cars well. However, in the end I have to agree with Charles on this one. We seem to be losing the respect and admiration for what this car really is and has become which is a classic in every sense of the word. They are beautifully crafted cars in their own right and we seem to continue to try to turn them into something they were never meant to be by applying more and more makeup. At some point they look more like a street walker rather than the beautiful girl she really is. Again, I take nothing away from what you did and credit you for it. If it's right for you...well done and go for it.

Streetwalker???!!! Leave Farah Abraham and the Kardashians out of this.

Geof3 05-16-2019 09:54 PM

As said, kudos for sure. For that coin, I would rather just do a litronic upgrade. As Particleweave mentioned, most of those aftermarket LED lamps really are pretty bad quality wise. I just ditched my DEPO tail lights to go back to stock. The fit and finish was crap, they looked cheesy in the end, and when I pulled them (I didn’t install them) the housing was all broken and worthless. Threw them away. I’ve got relatively clear stock headlights with upgraded lamps and I just got my silver corners, which makes the amber work better IMO.

YellowS2000 05-16-2019 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgkram (Post 595246)
First, I applaud anyone willing to spend time, energy and effort (not to mention money) on trying to upgrade and treat these cars well. However, in the end I have to agree with Charles on this one. We seem to be losing the respect and admiration for what this car really is and has become which is a classic in every sense of the word. They are beautifully crafted cars in their own right and we seem to continue to try to turn them into something they were never meant to be by applying more and more makeup. At some point they look more like a street walker rather than the beautiful girl she really is. Again, I take nothing away from what you did and credit you for it. If it's right for you...well done and go for it.

Got to agree 100%, one of the things I love about my gen 1 S is its age and originality. No one wants to see their granny in a miniskirt and high heels.

Embrace age and let your boxster embrace it too. If these cars ever do start to become collectable it will be the standard ones that people want.

Yes those headlights may be made well but made better that the OEM ones? nah

Its great your investing time and money in your car but do it in other ways

jmitro 05-17-2019 03:19 AM

I have to agree that I prefer the OEM style, but that's not what this thread is about.
Kudos to OP for doing what he wants to - it's not my style but they do look nice and I'm sure the light output is improved over the halogens

piper6909 05-17-2019 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Starter986 (Post 595272)
That looks soooooo good. Nice and clean. Do you find they fit well? No gaps here and there? Are you running the 718 lights on the back?

And your wheels... the stock color. I'm missing mine now. I have two sets: gloss black and a semi-metallic grey/silver. I think I'm going to change a set back to the stock color.

PW likely is correct in that a year the lights will peter out, as he is quite knowledgeable about our headlights and tail lights. I'm looking forward to your critique in 12 months... how they've held up. ;)

Now you just need a set of clear side markers.

Cheers!

I don't know how old they are because they came with the car, but feel free to remind me in a year and I'll report back.

The fit is very nice. My only complaint is that they don't lock in place and you can wiggle them out. Unlike of the originals, where you have to use the tool to rotate the cam. It seems to me that the tabs where the cam locks into don't have lobes to lock the cam in place. If I get a change I'll post pics. I found a workaround to keep the cam from rotating and so far it's holding up well.

:cheers:

piper6909 05-17-2019 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jgkram (Post 595246)
At some point they look more like a street walker rather than the beautiful girl she really is.

Even beautiful girls use different eye shadow than they did nearly 20 years ago. :D:D

MaddogsMotorSports 05-17-2019 03:52 AM

led headlights
 
MichaelV, I like the looks of them big time and if you like them thats all that matters.

particlewave 05-17-2019 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelV (Post 595251)
These are the gen 2 version and they are updated to not have any of those issues anymore and they also have a warranty.



As I said above these are the gen 2 version which have had all those issues corrected and they also come with a warranty so there should be no worry. I've had them on my car for a month now without an issue.

I understand your optimism, but your statement is false. The "new" version is simply an updated look. The materials and LEDs are the same and some have already failed.

The first generation also had a warranty, but it was nearly impossible to get anyone to honor it. I know that a certain member here had to wait almost 2 years to get a replacement from Xtreme and still had the same quality issues.

Best of luck, though. :)

JBauer 05-17-2019 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 595242)
Those headlights would look dope on an old Honda Civic with a fart can exhaust. :D
I can't believe they're still getting people to buy them.

They will be yellowed, peeling and failing electronically in a year or less.
Sorry that you wasted so much money on them because they are junk. :(

Don't sugarcoat it, tell him how you really feel. 😲

particlewave 05-17-2019 02:26 PM

I did. They're garbage. ;)

I'm not trying to make the guy feel bad, just trying to prevent others from flushing $1,000 down the crapper.
Yes, after working on them, I really despise them. Terrible quality...

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JBauer 05-17-2019 03:08 PM

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Boxtaboy 05-17-2019 03:42 PM

Hmmm, I don’t have my Boxster anymore, but here’s a pic of it when I did have it the year prior with the OEM headlamps, and I think it looked good with the plain old headlights. Lol. Sorry, but those headlights look really aftermarket to me. And darn...for $1k, you can get a used set of the factory Litronics.

https://i.postimg.cc/C5N0TpGr/62-C0-...74-DC70-AC.jpg

Oh, and what’s wrong with the OEM tail lights? I didn’t think they made the car look old at all...

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JBauer 05-17-2019 06:31 PM

I really like the look of those LED taillights.

BRAN 05-29-2019 10:40 AM

WOW...the new headlights are already down to 500€.
Now someone needs to 3D print "Klimtlights" covers, lol.

PaulDash 09-09-2020 05:25 AM

A year on, how are these Gen 2 headlights holding up? Any issues? Any failed LEDs?

Asking as these are now less expensive than a pair of OEM lights and I need to replace both of mine.

To explain: Charles' upgrade (which I'd love) unfortunately impossible for me, and Litronics would require the entire leveling install, which is unfeasible $$$-wise.

clickman 09-09-2020 03:47 PM

IIRC the stock Litronics retrofit can be done but the auto levelling just won't work.

Utefan 09-10-2020 11:23 AM

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Even beautiful girls use different eye shadow than they did nearly 20 years ago. :D:D

This comment sealed my decision to switch out the headlights on my wife's birthday present. I installed the 1st generation DRL Headlights (silver edging).


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Newsguy 09-10-2020 01:40 PM

Still don't like that look of a bunch of LEDs; looks cheap. I didn't even like it on early versions on Audis, but love the solid edging they've used since 2013. Chevys and Nissans have these rows of LEDS and it is not a artful look.

PaulDash 09-12-2020 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by clickman (Post 624028)
IIRC the stock Litronics retrofit can be done but the auto levelling just won't work.

It'll work if you install ALL the components. This includes sensors on your suspension. The full kit is expensive, but a requirement if you want to do it according to Polish regulations.

Okay, so everyone is commenting about the looks. De gustibus non disputandum est.

How about saying something about their reliability?

dozzy 08-19-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 595336)
I don't know how old they are because they came with the car, but feel free to remind me in a year and I'll report back.

The fit is very nice. My only complaint is that they don't lock in place and you can wiggle them out. Unlike of the originals, where you have to use the tool to rotate the cam. It seems to me that the tabs where the cam locks into don't have lobes to lock the cam in place. If I get a change I'll post pics. I found a workaround to keep the cam from rotating and so far it's holding up well.

:cheers:


How are they holding up? I just put the 718 tails on mine and upgrading the headlights is next on my list, I think the black set w/o chrome would look great.


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Scotydog 09-08-2021 05:40 AM

LED's Defective after 20 Hours
 
I would agree with all of the negative comments in regard to aftermarket LED replacement headlights. I purchased a set of the black ones from a large eBay seller and they lasted about 20 hours before 2 of the 4 small led lights that surround the main headlight bulb started blinking non stop. The eBayer will not replace the headlight as it is past the 90 day warranty. So I'm out over $1000 for about 20 hours of headlight life. They did look great IMHO but they are typical junk with really poor manufacturer support and apparently no quality control. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1631108116.jpghttp://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1631108198.jpg

JBauer 09-08-2021 10:35 AM

That's a good reason to make your own. The complete LED headlight kit was approximately $300 and after almost a year of use one of my panamera bulbs goes off and on by itself. If you tap the headlight it comes back on but I need to replace it. A complete DLR kit is between 40 and 60 dollars. They dont photograph well because the LEDs are bright and mess with the camera but its an easy fix.

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Radman 09-09-2021 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Scotydog (Post 641704)
I would agree with all of the negative comments in regard to aftermarket LED replacement headlights. I purchased a set of the black ones from a large eBay seller and they lasted about 20 hours before 2 of the 4 small led lights that surround the main headlight bulb started blinking non stop. The eBayer will not replace the headlight as it is past the 90 day warranty. So I'm out over $1000 for about 20 hours of headlight life. They did look great IMHO but they are typical junk with really poor manufacturer support and apparently no quality control. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1631108116.jpghttp://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1631108198.jpg

That really sucks. Have you looked to see how hard it would be to replace the projectors in those units? You might be able to go JBauer's route with the newer enclosures.

JBauer 09-09-2021 04:14 PM

If they can be taken apart like factory headlights I'd be looking into a fix.

Radman 09-10-2021 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JBauer (Post 641767)
If they can be taken apart like factory headlights I'd be looking into a fix.

That's my long term plan. I like the overall look of the aftermarket lights way better than stock. If I have to cut the enclosure open and then plastic weld it back together one day to fix/replace with quality projector units I'm fine with that lol!

JBauer 09-14-2021 06:49 AM

Went in and changed my bad bulb. Would of took about hour and a half but decided to add some chrome to my blacked out inner headlight. I think it kinda dresses it up.

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Radman 09-14-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JBauer (Post 641919)
Went in and changed my bad bulb. Would of took about hour and a half but decided to add some chrome to my blacked out inner headlight. I think it kinda dresses it up.

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Where do you get the fried egg covers? How is the fit?

JBauer 09-14-2021 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Radman (Post 641924)
Where do you get the fried egg covers? How is the fit?

They fit really well, have a 3D quality below the light but are expensive.You have to specify the new no turn signal hole version. $425.shipped.

https://varielautomotive.com/


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