718 Style Tail Lights (interest)

[Escott1622]

Originally Posted by PLP

I got them from eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/123676523736
they were about 700, but I returned them.

I advise NOT to get them.
While the brake lights were OK, blinkers are very weak. To the extent I find them unsafe to drive, even at night.
Blinker is OK only at night when not braking, meaning the brake light is not on.
Once the brake is lit - turn signals are barely visible.

I compared it to OEM light bulb and the LED 718 style is way weaker.

They looked cool, although on black car it looked kind of weird, like too much black in the back.

On a separate note - passenger side was leaking. I washed the car and water got inside. I dried it as I thought maybe I did not tighten them enough.
Next rain - water inside again... and that was the main reason for the return.
Dim light - I would be looking how to get them fixed...

I’ve seen others not report any issues with brightness? Could it possibly be like a pre updated version

[JBauer]

Originally Posted by PLP

I got them from eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/123676523736
they were about 700, but I returned them.

I advise NOT to get them.
While the brake lights were OK, blinkers are very weak. To the extent I find them unsafe to drive, even at night.
Blinker is OK only at night when not braking, meaning the brake light is not on.
Once the brake is lit - turn signals are barely visible.

I compared it to OEM light bulb and the LED 718 style is way weaker.

They looked cool, although on black car it looked kind of weird, like too much black in the back.

On a separate note - passenger side was leaking. I washed the car and water got inside. I dried it as I thought maybe I did not tighten them enough.
Next rain - water inside again... and that was the main reason for the return.
Dim light - I would be looking how to get them fixed...

You must of purchased a bad or cheaper set. I've had mine for around 2 years and none of that is true with the set I bought. The blinkers are plenty bright and I've had 0 leaks.

[BRAN]

not sure, if you had fluid water in them, if so --> instant return, no doubt

They tend to fog up a little, nothing major, if it is rainy and the temperature difference (inside/out) is high. But that happens with most OEM lights, too.
Other than that, no probs so far.

[Escott1622]

I got word that they are indeed out of stock will be November or December then the lister will drop prices back down

[PLP]

Originally Posted by Escott1622

I got word that they are indeed out of stock will be November or December then the lister will drop prices back down

Apparently.... they are in stock and have been for a while, but the price is crazy high.
Based on their performance, they are worth maybe 10% of the asking price now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184907329121?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=jttC3_NbQHG&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=DjOmHBhRQui&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[JBauer]

Originally Posted by PLP

Apparently.... they are in stock and have been for a while, but the price is crazy high.
Based on their performance, they are worth maybe 10% of the asking price now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184907329121?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=jttC3_NbQHG&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=DjOmHBhRQui&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

He doesn't really expect to sell any at that price. He raises the price to keep the listing active when he's out of stock. As soon as them are available they'll be price as before.

10% based on what performance? 🤷

[PLP]

Originally Posted by JBauer

10% based on what performance? 🤷

Blinker is very dim almost, dangerously dim.

I had a pair. I spent nearly $800 then and while I was trying to justify the blinker's lack of intensity, I could not live with water finding its way into the light.
The right one was leaking. After washing the car, or any rain, would result in anywhere from mist to several ml of water collected on the bottom of the passenger side taillight.

The brake light was great.
The parking light - a bit too intense with comparison to the brake, but still ok-ish.
Blinker - as I said, way too dim. You could "kinda" see it at night with the brake on, while on a sunny day - almost impossible to see.

I was thinking of maybe swapping OEM 718 internals - there are cheap ones on eBay, damaged (cracked lens or broken tabs). All LED functional. So taking the blinker out and swapping to this assembly could be the way to go, but in the end that would be way over $1000 taillight project (about 200 per side plus 800 plus my time)...

So I am back to what I had.

[ike84]

amazon had them a few days ago for $300 a pair, not sure if they're still available though

[JBauer]

Originally Posted by ike84

amazon had them a few days ago for $300 a pair, not sure if they're still available though

The $395 ones on Amazon aren't the same lights. Cheapo version but they're still available.

[PLP]

Maybe yours was better...

This is what I recorded.
Granted, my "original" taillight had a problem with LEDs (hence I wanted to replace them), so it does not compare well, but at least you can see the difference in the light intensity of regular, tungsten blinker vs 718 style LED.

https://youtu.be/vvBmsfrH2P8

https://youtu.be/lq0iWJ-YFjg

You might be able to notice light intensity change for the parking lights at some point.


For me, they did not perform safe enough.

[JBauer]

I see what you mean, definitely smaller, not as bright. Those are the good ones too. Still not terrible, I've never noticed.