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Old 02-20-2018, 07:37 PM   #1
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Hi 78F350,

Thank you for your response, my suspicion is right that was the module for the tiptronic transmission.

It would be nice to reuse the 2003 harness since i already have everything prepared. I also have a 7.8 DME arriving this week. I still need the additional information where i could or could not reuse the 2003 harness with deleted automatic module?

In addition, the water mix issue is a big mess, the car was parked since 2016. Due to the oil on the water line almost all rubber hoses are damage from the oil. Also confirmed the cause of the heating. The radiators are obstructed with dirt and leaves, i urges everyone to inspect your radiators and clean them properly. You'll need to remove the front bumper and hydraulic radiators to proper clean out debris hidden in between. Unfortunately, the water hosing outside the bumper scheme is not sufficient.

On the donor engine. i found some water pump impeller debris inside the oil cooler. looks like the donor engine also suffer from water pump failure at some point. This issue of partial impeller getting lodge inside the engine is real. I opted to use metal version to avoid previous issue. I would rather have some gouges on my block than plastic debris stock somewhere inside my engine, just my opinion.

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Old 02-20-2018, 07:51 PM   #2
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Hi Seningen,

According to another site and base on the Porsche part list, 02 and 03 has different DME. The 7.8 was introduce to Boxster starting 03, so 02 are still 7.2 DME.

My 02 engine has Variocam with single control line. The 03 engine with Variocam has two wires. I heard early Variocam have ON/OFF response like vtech. The newer version has infinite adjustment, not sure what year if that limited only to Variocam Plus.

I hope i can reuse the existing 03 harness, i'm willing to modify if needed. I just need the wiring mods. Hopefully someone has actually done it>?

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Old 02-21-2018, 05:25 AM   #3
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I would compare the locations of the various electric components on the 03 to the 02. They might be the same. I put an 02 manual engine in my 01 Tip and it was just a matter of pulling the plenums off the top and switching the harness and some vacuum lines from one engine to the other. Switched the clutched alternator to the unclutched alternator, too. I ended up using the 01 throttle body and that part of the plenum system, too. On an 02 (which started life as an 00) everything lined up perfectly with the 01 components.

As far as the tiptronic connectors, on mine, there is a blue connector in the trunk that goes to a blue component. And two plugins for the transmission. & an extra vacuum switch for the other side of the trans. which is part of the engine part of the harness, I think.

Logically, I think, it would be easiest and best to use the harness that came with your car. Switch out any senders, sensors that are obviously different.
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Old 02-21-2018, 05:54 AM   #4
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The water pump is an item to preemptively replace at some interval of years and or miles. Most folks here will say to use only the OEM water pump with a composite impeller. I'm one of the heretics that went with the metal impeller water pump. The issue with the metal impeller, which you've pointed out, is that it will grind away the water pump cavity in the block if the bearing is worn to the point of the impeller contacting the block. Even a little wear can increase the cavity space to the point that the water pump no longer adequately pumps and circulates the coolant. My first water pump with a metal impeller started to fail and my temperature gauge light started blinking indicating I had a low coolant level condition. I was able to drive the car about 50 miles to get home. Then I had the car flatbed towed to my independent Porsche specialist. The bearing had started to leak, causing the low coolant condition, but it was not worn sufficiently to allow the impeller to come in contact with the block. Based on that I decided to again have a metal impeller water pump installed and I'll replace it proactively or the first sign of any coolant leakage around the bearing. The thing I don't like about the composite impeller is that it becomes brittle and cracks after some number of heating and cooling cycles. So you can have a chunk of impeller break off and get lodged in a cylinder head, which will cause a hot spot and ruin the engine. But I am very much in the minority on this opinion.

Good luck with your project!

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On the donor engine. i found some water pump impeller debris inside the oil cooler. looks like the donor engine also suffer from water pump failure at some point. This issue of partial impeller getting lodge inside the engine is real. I opted to use metal version to avoid previous issue. I would rather have some gouges on my block than plastic debris stock somewhere inside my engine, just my opinion.

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Old 02-21-2018, 02:04 PM   #5
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Brian,

Initially I have the impression that we have plenty of historical documentation people posted the necessary info for others to use. I was surprise not much really to follow on the electrical except for taking the engine and transmission, ohh well.

Additional pictures where you can see the debris getting suck in between the two radiators. I believe (please someone confirm) the radiator fan air direction suck air from front to back. When the front radiator become clog with debris, the low pressure get created on the side forcing the debris the low-pressure side. Ones its inside (in-between) its not going away even water pressuring it (please don’t do that!), just saying. With that much debris blocking the radiator no wonder why cracking cylinder head are common on this car. Then you find the intermix issue to late adding most cost to the actual recovery to get the car back.

I would encourage to please check yours now and set aside a weekend or less to this job.

Paul,
I understand others concern the metal impeller would cause if NOT found soon enough, but no large chunk of plastic that will get lodge inside the engine. Base on my experience, water pump bearing will induce some noise before it fail and since you have it just behind the driver you should hear this warning noise. Or more so just replace it every 40K? I also replace my thermostat to 160, this is not necessary if water cooling system are service regular. But since I’m going to drive this car for fun (hard spanking from time to time), just for added assurance. I think normal driving stock thermostat will do.

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