It could happen to you......

[black pegasus]

I thought I'd wanted one of these cars. I've even drove a few. But nevertheless I don't think this car is for me. Porsche used the customer to propel its transition to water cooled cars all the while leaving them in the dust as well as their lustrous history.

[DWBOX2000]

So what was the purpose of that ad? It lists all these horrible problems and mentions one solution. Were they trying to scare folks the from water cooled cars? If I saw that, I would have turned off and probably not bought a boxster way before they even got to the IMS.
That seems like air cooled propaganda to me. Maybe The secret order of 911 guys funded this footage to prevent the expansion of water cooled Porsches. Seems like a conspiracy to me. 😄

[pilut2]

Originally Posted by black pegasus

I thought I'd wanted one of these cars. I've even drove a few. But nevertheless I don't think this car is for me. Porsche used the customer to propel its transition to water cooled cars all the while leaving them in the dust as well as their lustrous history.

If you are totally risk averse, a Boxster or any other older high end sports car, is not for you. I have owned mine for three years and she is absolutely one of the best purchases of my life. At almost 19 years old she runs and drives like a brand new car, and looks fantastic. The fun factor and permagrin while driving her more than offsets the purely financial side of ownership. If you are going to play, then you have to pay! If she does blow up, I'm sure that I will briefly question my decision making. But that won't erase the joy of the experience.

Life is meant to be lived. Driving a Boxster certainly makes you feel alive!!

[grc0456]

Originally Posted by pilut2

If you are totally risk averse, a Boxster or any other older high end sports car, is not for you. I have owned mine for three years and she is absolutely one of the best purchases of my life. At almost 19 years old she runs and drives like a brand new car, and looks fantastic. The fun factor and permagrin while driving her more than offsets the purely financial side of ownership. If you are going to play, then you have to pay! If she does blow up, I'm sure that I will briefly question my decision making. But that won't erase the joy of the experience.

Life is meant to be lived. Driving a Boxster certainly makes you feel alive!!

Well said! That's why most of us are here. Sh#t can and does happen. Plan for it. Now would I be devastated in my M96 went ka-boom - yes, I would. But I try to take all steps I can to make sure that won't happen. But remember, as others have said, these cars are 13-20 years old.

In the meantime, it's a nice early winter day here in New England, and as soon as my car is done at the indie (having her annual check-up, and getting braided brake lines installed) I plan on feeling alive later today!

Carpe Boxster!

[black pegasus]

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[black pegasus]

Originally Posted by pilut2

If you are totally risk averse, a Boxster or any other older high end sports car, is not for you. I have owned mine for three years and she is absolutely one of the best purchases of my life. At almost 19 years old she runs and drives like a brand new car, and looks fantastic. The fun factor and permagrin while driving her more than offsets the purely financial side of ownership. If you are going to play, then you have to pay! If she does blow up, I'm sure that I will briefly question my decision making. But that won't erase the joy of the experience.

Life is meant to be lived. Driving a Boxster certainly makes you feel alive!!

I'll just stick to my 86 air cooled 911 and you can have fun in your ride. I was just stating that reliability is no more with the water cooled 986s. This is a 986 forum and I respect that you enjoy your rides but reading the op's situation makes me not opt for a 986.

[particlewave]

Originally Posted by black pegasus

I'll just stick to my 86 air cooled 911 and you can have fun in your ride. I was just stating that reliability is no more with the water cooled 986s. This is a 986 forum and I respect that you enjoy your rides but reading the op's situation makes me not opt for a 986.

I hope you don't stay locked in your house because you read the news once.

[black pegasus]

Originally Posted by particlewave

I hope you don't stay locked in your house because you read the news once.

Oh so only one 986 engine has blown?
Silly...

[particlewave]

Originally Posted by black pegasus

I thought I'd wanted one of these cars. I've even drove a few. But nevertheless I don't think this car is for me. Porsche used the customer to propel its transition to water cooled cars all the while leaving them in the dust as well as their lustrous history.

Originally Posted by black pegasus

I'll just stick to my 86 air cooled 911 and you can have fun in your ride. I was just stating that reliability is no more with the water cooled 986s. This is a 986 forum and I respect that you enjoy your rides but reading the op's situation makes me not opt for a 986.

Originally Posted by black pegasus

Oh so only one 986 engine has blown?
Silly...

So, you've only read one scary news story?
My point is that the post said nothing about the engine failing due to an IMSB failure and even if it did, the rate of failure is small and the issue completely overblown. Engines are complex and any engine in any car can fail. By your logic, you should never do anything, ever.

You don't own a 986 and say that you won't buy one, yet you're posting on a 986 board.
I think the kids call that "trolling".

[Robert993TT]

I'm sorry to hear about the engine failure.

I bought my 986 550SE less than 1,5 years ago and have been drivning it 20000 km. It's been perfectly reliable. I was a bit worried about all the IMS tales at first. It even got me thinking never to buy a Boxster or 911 once.

Now that the 986 are priced the way they are. I could not pass the opportunity.

I won't change the IMS. Not even thinking about it until the day the clutch go or I get indication that I may save the engine in time. Life is to short to worry. That way you can never enjoy the car. I will be keeping my 550 SE long term. I drove a 987 and to be honest. It was a bit dull with bigger wheels. More Audi like interior. The 986 are still a simple roadster. The newer versions are more grown up and mature.

[Jager]

Originally Posted by black pegasus

I'll just stick to my 86 air cooled 911 and you can have fun in your ride. I was just stating that reliability is no more with the water cooled 986s. This is a 986 forum and I respect that you enjoy your rides but reading the op's situation makes me not opt for a 986.

How many miles on your 911?

[black pegasus]

Originally Posted by Jager

How many miles on your 911?

220,000 miles

[jdraupp]

Originally Posted by black pegasus

I thought I'd wanted one of these cars. I've even drove a few. But nevertheless I don't think this car is for me. Porsche used the customer to propel its transition to water cooled cars all the while leaving them in the dust as well as their lustrous history.

The water cooled cars saved Porsche from bankruptcy (specifically the boxster) and are more reliable and durable especially in use as a daily driver than the air cooled cars are. If you've really put 220k on an 86 911, then you know how much work you've had to do to that car. Boxsters need maintenance too. However, all engines fail. Nothing is impervious. Hope your 911 motor isn't next. For the amount you can get a boxster vs an air cooled 964 or 993, I'll take a boxster with a slim chance of motor failure any day.

[stephen wilson]

Each to their own, but you're missing out by passing up the Boxster. Because of IMS fears I bought a 987 ( I don't track the car ) , it's been probably the best purchase of my life. Other than annoying top issues it's been trouble free. I agree, you can't beat it for the money. I test drove almost every modern sports car in the price range, and none handled better. The BMW's had good power, but less confident handling.

[Porsche9]

Originally Posted by jdraupp

The water cooled cars saved Porsche from bankruptcy (specifically the boxster) and are more reliable and durable especially in use as a daily driver than the air cooled cars are. If you've really put 220k on an 86 911, then you know how much work you've had to do to that car. Boxsters need maintenance too. However, all engines fail. Nothing is impervious. Hope your 911 motor isn't next. For the amount you can get a boxster vs an air cooled 964 or 993, I'll take a boxster with a slim chance of motor failure any day.

Plus they will run circles, especially an S, around a 964 or 993 in terms of overall performance especially in the hands of a typical driver.