06-24-2006, 06:35 PM
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Warranty Direct most reliable cars
Warranty direct just published their list of the top 100 cars in terms of reliablitiy, based on the number of claims per car.
The Boxster ranked
#100 Porsche Boxster
BTW-the top car was the Honda Accord.
Here is the complete list!
1 Honda Accord 2 Subaru Forester 3 Mazda MX-5 4 Mitsubishi Carisma 5 Toyota Yaris 6 Honda Civic 7 Nissan Almera 8 Honda CR-V 9 Toyota RAV4 10 Nissan Micra 11 Lexus IS 200 12 Mazda 626 13 Jaguar X-Type 14 Toyota Landcruiser 15 Volvo S/V40 16 MINI (BMW) 17 Suzuki Vitara 18 Mazda 323 19 Toyota Carina E 20 Saab 9-5 21 Lexus LS400 22 Ford Ka 23 Rover 45 24 Hyundai Lantra 25 Mercedes SLK 26 Citroen Xsara 27 Ford Cougar 28 Subaru Impreza 29 Skoda Octavia 30 Audi A4 31 Nissan Primera 32 Toyota Avensis 33 Volvo 850 34 Vauxhall Corsa 35 Seat Toledo 36 Volkswagen Golf 37 Daewoo Lanos 38 Fiat Brava 39 Hyundai Coupe 40 Mitsubishi Shogun 41 Rover 25 42 Mercedes CLK 43 Fiat Marea 44 Ford Focus 45 Peugeot 106 46 MG MG TF 47 BMW Z3 48 Hyundai Accent 49 Volkswagen Polo 50 Fiat Punto 51 Vauxhall Zafira 52 Mercedes C-class 53 Volvo S60 54 Toyota MR2 55 Mazda Xedos 6 56 Ford Puma 57 Vauxhall Astra 58 Vauxhall Omega 59 Chrysler Neon 60 Audi A2 61 Ford Fiesta 62 Ford Mondeo 63 Vauxhall Corsa 64 Citroen Saxo 65 BMW 3 Series 66 Vauxhall Vectra 67 Isuzu Trooper 68 Mercedes M-Class 69 Subaru Legacy 70 Rover 400 71 Fiat Ulysse 72 Mercedes E-Class 73 Renault Clio 74 Toyota Celica 75 Peugeot 306 76 Peugeot 406 77 Volvo S70 78 Rover 75 79 Daewoo Matiz 80 Peugeot 206 81 Mazda MX-3 82 Vauxhall Tigra 83 Seat Ibiza 84 Peugeot 106 85 Renault Megane 86 Peugeot 406 87 Saab 9-3 88 Audi A3 89 BMW X5 90 Mercedes S-class 91 Toyota Corolla 92 Seat Alhambra 93 BMW 5-series 94 Daewoo Nubira 95 Alfa Romeo 145 96 Saab 900 97 Mazda MX-6 98 Jaguar S-Type 99 Daewoo Leganza 100 Porsche Boxster
More on this at http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/
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06-24-2006, 06:57 PM
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Hahhaha, that’s great. The last AJAC poll somewhere Porsche was high in the ratings now were last.
I love those things, lots of fat journalists who can't drive making decisions about what’s best.
I have worked in the Automotive Journalism arena for about 5 years and I can actually drive a car around a lap and most of the guys were spinning out the test cars and stuff. The BFG even last year was hilarious. All kinds of Magazine and Newspaper guys there and none of them could drive. It was pretty funny. The BFG guys were pretty pissed off.
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06-25-2006, 05:18 AM
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These ratings are drawn from paid claims from the WD data base, so it does not appear to be impacted by opinion.
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06-25-2006, 03:43 PM
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Interesting list. I'd like to see model years associated with it. I'm shocked that the Subaru Forester is 2nd on the list. My 2001 model ate wheel bearings, had bad coil pack, and still has a vague CEL occasionally, and bad paint. Not to mention the stop leak required by the mfr. to prevent head gasket failure. There are indeed many ways to measure reliability.
Statistically, we really don't know what the population is of each model. Some of the more problematic vehicles are more prone to get 3rd party warranties than others. Cost of repairs would be another driving factor leading some vehicles to be over represented in the total population of third party warranties. Also, the number of claims may have little to do with the dollar value of the repairs, which I think would be more telling.
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06-26-2006, 07:38 AM
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They already paid out on mine for the MAF, but they're still a grand and a half up.
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06-26-2006, 09:07 AM
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Here's a legible verison of the list...
- Honda Accord
- Subaru Forester
- Mazda MX-5
- Mitsubishi Carisma
- Toyota Yaris
- Honda Civic
- Nissan Almera
- Honda CR-V
- Toyota RAV4
- Nissan Micra
- Lexus IS 200
- Mazda 626
- Jaguar X-Type
- Toyota Landcruiser
- Volvo S/V40
- MINI (BMW)
- Suzuki Vitara
- Mazda 323
- Toyota Carina E
- Saab 9-5
- Lexus LS400
- Ford Ka
- Rover 45
- Hyundai Lantra
- Mercedes SLK
- Citroen Xsara
- Ford Cougar
- Subaru Impreza
- Skoda Octavia
- Audi A4
- Nissan Primera
- Toyota Avensis
- Volvo 850
- Vauxhall Corsa
- Seat Toledo
- Volkswagen Golf
- Daewoo Lanos
- Fiat Brava
- Hyundai Coupe
- Mitsubishi Shogun
- Rover 25
- Mercedes CLK
- Fiat Marea
- Ford Focus
- Peugeot 106
- MG MG TF
- BMW Z3
- Hyundai Accent
- Volkswagen Polo
- Fiat Punto
- Vauxhall Zafira
- Mercedes C-class
- Volvo S60
- Toyota MR2
- Mazda Xedos 6
- Ford Puma
- Vauxhall Astra
- Vauxhall Omega
- Chrysler Neon
- Audi A2
- Ford Fiesta
- Ford Mondeo
- Vauxhall Corsa
- Citroen Saxo
- BMW 3 Series
- Vauxhall Vectra
- Isuzu Trooper
- Mercedes M-Class
- Subaru Legacy
- Rover 400
- Fiat Ulysse
- Mercedes E-Class
- Renault Clio
- Toyota Celica
- Peugeot 306
- Peugeot 406
- Volvo S70
- Rover 75
- Daewoo Matiz
- Peugeot 206
- Mazda MX-3
- Vauxhall Tigra
- Seat Ibiza
- Peugeot 106
- Renault Megane
- Peugeot 406
- Saab 9-3
- Audi A3
- BMW X5
- Mercedes S-class
- Toyota Corolla
- Seat Alhambra
- BMW 5-series
- Daewoo Nubira
- Alfa Romeo 145
- Saab 900
- Mazda MX-6
- Jaguar S-Type
- Daewoo Leganza
- Porsche Boxster
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06-26-2006, 09:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mquillen
Interesting list. I'd like to see model years associated with it. I'm shocked that the Subaru Forester is 2nd on the list...
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Hi,
Yea, but look at the trusty MX-5 Miata - #3... If only...
Happy Motoring!...Jim'99
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06-26-2006, 09:24 AM
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Interesting list...
I contest that the sample data used isn't entirely too accurate when compared to all the cars on the road... This sample only comes from people that have purchased this warranty from Warranty Direct. Repective years would be helpful too.
Based on number of claims... I wonder how that relates to cost per claim.
Then there's the fact that warranties are written in such a way that they are very particular about what they cover (unless it's a bumper to bumper warranty). Some cars could be more enclined to have smaller problems that are covered (more claims), where as others have catastrophic problems that aren't coverd (not claimed). Does that make the hugely problematic cars more reliable?
A Jag, some Audis, MBs, and couple of Peugeots are more reliable than a Corolla? This global perspective sure is different that what perceive.
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06-26-2006, 01:12 PM
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That is all fine and the Boxster is STILL at the bottom of the list.
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06-26-2006, 02:08 PM
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Ranked below a Daewoo! Ouch! I think I'll suscribe to the Daewoo enthusiast's forum. No mid-engines there unfortunatley! BTW - I still love my 986!
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06-26-2006, 02:23 PM
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Ranked below a Daewoo! Ouch! I think I'll suscribe to the Daewoo enthusiast's forum. No mid-engines there unfortunatley! BTW - I still love my 986!
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06-26-2006, 04:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rdancd816
Ranked below a Daewoo! Ouch! I think I'll suscribe to the Daewoo enthusiast's forum. No mid-engines there unfortunatley! BTW - I still love my 986!
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I love the 986 too! I would love it more if Porsche decided to make it a bit more robust!
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06-26-2006, 08:36 PM
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This is silly...
This data is not scientific and more of a novelty than anything.
For example:
Here are the top Brands bought at this grocery store in beverly hills. Would that list be similar to the grocery store in Bugtussle, AL, Hope Arkansas, Hong Kong? Would that list have anything to do with the brands sold total in the US? the World? Nope. Nothing more than the novelty of saying woohoo look who is ranked here.
Not enough data to be significant in any way.
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06-27-2006, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lexuspilot
This is silly...
This data is not scientific and more of a novelty than anything.
Not enough data to be significant in any way.
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I concur. Plus it seems to eliminate trucks, trim levels (certain engines can be more reliable among individual models) and shared models (Land Cruiser=Lexus LX or Jag S-Type=Lincoln LS). Oh, along those lines and what I think also makes it the biggest pile of crap... not a single Acura?!? Must be a UK only study.
Oh yeah, and another thing... # of claims per car? Shouldn't percentages be used? I mean, if they warrantied 1 Bugatti Veyron that only had 1 problem, wouldn't that put it at the top of the list?
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06-27-2006, 04:54 PM
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More from the WD Website.
Your chosen manufacturer:
Porsche
Your chosen range:
Boxster (96-)
Click the information icons for detailed explanations
Reliability Index 257.97
Average Age 4.231757877
Average Mileage 36694.09453
Time off the Road 4.830875866
Average Repair Cost £831.58
Air Conditioning 4.39%
Axle & Suspension 24.56%
Braking System 0.88%
Cooling and Heating System 13.16%
Electrical 19.30%
Engine 19.30%
Fuel System 7.89%
Transmission 10.53%
Inform me of site updates
Read what others have said about the Porsche Boxster
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06-28-2006, 04:34 PM
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Average Mileage 36694.09453
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I would have rounded that number. It is just an average. Crazy Brits.
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06-30-2006, 05:55 PM
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Mg Tf
The MG TF is number 46? These were built in the 50's...and are more reliable than a Boxster?
Hmmm...
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06-30-2006, 06:52 PM
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I hadn't noticed that the MG was listed. As an MG owner, I officially declare this list null and void. In some states, using MG and reliability in the same sentence is a felony.
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07-01-2006, 03:12 AM
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That would be the new MG TF, released a few years ago. Not available in the states.
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07-01-2006, 04:49 AM
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These cars have to be older than the length of the factory warranty correct?
Then they are telling me an audi a4 out of warranty is has less claims than all those cars below it. Perhaps they warranty only one garage queen A4 and 500 MX-6's that are lent to soccer hooligans by Guiness on the weekends.
That fact that anyone would post this so-called data makes me wonder if they just enjoy bashing Boxsters and cling to anything reinforcing their position. I wouldn't try to make any point by posting this list for fear that some of you would consider me an idiot. I understand what the data means to the warranty company, but without the rest of the numbers it is worthless data to the consumer.
A year ago Top Gear rated the Boxster S as the number one roadster. They didn'nt poll anyone, they drove it....hard. Enjoy your Boxster, drive it hard, and if that doesnt make you smile then maybe #5 the Toyota Yaris is for you.
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