06-19-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dbth
USA is Porsche target audience probably the biggest buyer of Boxster.
MSRP can be pegged by manufacturer , but final cost is ultimately determined by supply and demand.
That is why Phaeton was discontinued by VW and last of the model went for 20k under sticker.
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And 20k under sticker makes that the most phenomenal automotive bargain in the world, yet still nobody bought those fantastic vehicles. Nobody wants such an expensive VW with VW service - they want Audi/MB/BMW/Lexus/Infiniti service, and the cachet that goes with those brands. In Europe, there is not such brand snobbery.
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06-19-2006, 03:40 PM
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Ahh... so that's what "Bitter" feels like!  I now understand how some of the older boxster owners must've felt when Porsche bumped displacement on them.
Man, I'll have had mine for only a year and a half probably before these start showing up in the showrooms. Ah well, that's how Porsche plays. I wouldn't sell my car for a measly 15 horses anyhow. I'll wait a couple more years and see what happens...
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06-19-2006, 05:03 PM
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I'm struggling to understand why anyone with an older model would feel slighted. Since the 356, Porsche has ALWAYS increased the displacement of their offered engines over time. The Boxster has already done it once in 2000. And there's a price premium for the new car. So you got what you paid for.
If anything, it's a positive sign for the Boxster's continued production.
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06-19-2006, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by blue2000s
I'm struggling to understand why anyone with an older model would feel slighted. Since the 356, Porsche has ALWAYS increased the displacement of their offered engines over time. The Boxster has already done it once in 2000. And there's a price premium for the new car. So you got what you paid for.
If anything, it's a positive sign for the Boxster's continued production.
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Who cares about continued production? People are in love with their car, they're not in love with Porsche. Well, generally.
I can fully understand. Now, if I'd bought my car in 2003 it probably wouldn't bother me--that's a reasonable time period for which to change a car. The switch from 986 to 987 wouldn't have been so exciting either because you would've known that a new one was on the way as it was in the mags for ages and all the dealers were discounting the 2004's so heavily and the model was DEFINITELY due for a refresh.
But no other manufacturer that I know of charges their customers so much and then changes their offerings so quickly on them.
Imagine if you'd bought a 2006 this month. How would you feel now?
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06-19-2006, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by eslai
Who cares about continued production? People are in love with their car, they're not in love with Porsche. Well, generally.
I can fully understand. Now, if I'd bought my car in 2003 it probably wouldn't bother me. No other manufacturer that I know of charges their customers so much and then changes their offerings so quickly.
Imagine if you'd bought a 2006 this month. How would you feel now?
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I disagree with the first statement. I've driven Porsches of all kinds for many years. The Boxster is a great car, but the Marque is special and it's in every car they make (well, maybe not the SUV).
I'd feel just fine about having bought a 2006. Thanks. They put a glass rear window and glove compartment in the 2003, does it make me feel like I got screwed on my 2000, no.
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06-19-2006, 07:24 PM
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I just bought my Boxster 4 months ago and this really doesn't bother me at all. I think the addition of 15 hp needs to be put in perspective. That's maybe a 1/10 of a second reduction in 0-60 and a bit more torque (Cayman listed at 5.1 to 60 and Boxster S at 5.2). How much is the average driver even going to notice this?
Now if they jumped it up to 320hp or more, I would be very bitter.
Point being, I'm in no hurry to sell my 280hp car for 295hp and little other difference.
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06-19-2006, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by blue2000s
I disagree with the first statement. I've driven Porsches of all kinds for many years. The Boxster is a great car, but the Marque is special and it's in every car they make (well, maybe not the SUV).
I'd feel just fine about having bought a 2006. Thanks. They put a glass rear window and glove compartment in the 2003, does it make me feel like I got screwed on my 2000, no.
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Okay, so you're a Porsche Fan Boy, nothing wrong with that at all  I'm just saying that I can fully understand why someone would be bummed out.
drburton, I agree--I'm not rushing out to put a down payment on a 2007 either, but I don't consider myself the "average driver"--I wouldn't have bought the Boxster if i was feeling average about driving. 15 horsepower would be noticeable, although not really significant. Like I said, I'll wait for the next horsepower increase before getting excited.
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