Looking for advice

[particlewave]

Originally Posted by nicecar

The only people who say not to get an S is people that dont have one. Sort of like people who say" money doesnt matter" they either have way too much or none.

Well, that's an asinine comment that appears to actually be about yourself.

All "S" models have a single row IMSB (don't bug me with the "well, my 2000S might have a dual row because it was a transition year" ). They also have the weird gearing of the 6sp trans...these things could also be a factor in their choice.

I've driven both a base and an "S" back to back and noticed ZERO difference in acceleration or torque. The gearing on the "S" was also awful. Of course, there are tons of variables and maybe one is better maintained than the other.

Money doesn't matter

[kjc2050]

Originally Posted by particlewave

All "S" models have a single row IMSB.

This is not true. 2000 was the transition year: early model year 2000's had the dual row, later 2000's had the single row. My 2000 S had a dual row bearing. I've even heard of 2001's that had the dual row.

[Steve Tinker]

Originally Posted by kjc2050

This is not true. 2000 was the transition year: early model year 2000's had the dual row, later 2000's had the single row. My 2000 S had a dual row bearing. I've even heard of 2001's that had the dual row.

You are correct kjc - my early 2001 S has the dual row bearing but I suspect the engine was built some time in 2000 and then shipped to Finland & co-joined with the chassis in January 2001.

[tommy583]

I have a base model and am more than happy with it. I have also driven my buddies S and Cayman S models. While both are faster, they don't really seem faster. Maybe the lowish torque in the flat six engines has something to do with it. They just don't pin you to the seat like a WRX and Evo would. When I drove a friends Evo the other day I couldn't believe it had the same HP as the Cayman S, it felt much stronger. Of course with the turbo 4 it also sounded like crap compared to a flat six.

[particlewave]

Originally Posted by kjc2050

This is not true. 2000 was the transition year: early model year 2000's had the dual row, later 2000's had the single row. My 2000 S had a dual row bearing. I've even heard of 2001's that had the dual row.

Yes, we all know that, but it's a complete crapshoot. The only way to tell is to pull the tranny and look at the flange. Even then, it's not always easy to figure out and you have maybe a 50/50 shot.

So, let me rephrase: "every 'S' model has a single row IMSB unless you're willing to pull the tranny and prove me otherwise (with pics)".
Of course, Shrödinger would say that until you look, you have both a dual row, a single row and no IMSB all at the same time.

[paulofto]

Originally Posted by particlewave

Yes, we all know that, but it's a complete crapshoot. The only way to tell is to pull the tranny and look at the flange. Even then, it's not always easy to figure out and you have maybe a 50/50 shot.

So, let me rephrase: "every 'S' model has a single row IMSB unless you're willing to pull the tranny and prove me otherwise (with pics)".
Of course, Shrödinger would say that until you look, you have both a dual row, a single row and no IMSB all at the same time.

Shrödinger . . . Isn't he the engineer who developed the IMS? My mistake, he is the one who developed the Cat Back exhaust system. Sorry I couldn't resist.