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				Cam Lock Tool for IMS update...Dimensions?
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			Does anybody have the dimensions for the "Cam Lock" tool for when I do my IMS bearing? 
All I need is for someone to do a 1:1 scan of it on a scanner, and then send me a file with the dimensions. A CAD drawing would be awesome, but not expected. I also need to know the thickness of the part.
 
I have the car torn apart, but the engine is not removed (986 3.2). My back is shot, so R&D'ing the part to make a new one from scratch is not looked forward to with enthusiasm, as it would require under-the-car gymnastics. No, well, not if someone could help me in this thread. lol
 
Before anybody says "You can't make those!", yes I can. I have a lathe and a mill in my basement, and a LOT of clean scrap steel plate.
 
I tried searching for such a subject, but failed.
 
BTW...That part is a $10 part if made in quantity.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-13-2016, 03:16 PM
			
			
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			I believe it's these... 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-14-2016, 09:21 PM
			
			
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			Make me a set and I will pay you $20
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-14-2016, 09:37 PM
			
			
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			Oops, never mind.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-14-2016, 11:26 PM
			
			
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			My understanding is you don't need spec drawings at all. Make your own. Owning the M96 engine is all you need. Apparently; 
 
Our porsche indy/specialist here regularly drop by my place to profile & machine parts off my manual mill so I can't imagine it as being that difficult using the basic engine measurements (which you already have). Hand written notes on a greasy piece of paper and off he goes. 
 
All I know is his parts are all similar looking to those you posted. All for diff engines... he does it all himself mate, he's fun to watch also
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-15-2016, 04:31 AM
			
			
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			If I understand his post correctly, he wants to build the parts before he tears the engine apart.  Hence the request for dimensions.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-15-2016, 04:44 AM
			
			
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				If I understand his post correctly, he wants to build the parts before he tears the engine apart.  Hence the request for dimensions. 
			
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Noticed the "back hurt" part just now also :/ I read faster than my little brain can follow. Too technical to explain, don't ask!
 
Just txt'ed my indy for pics, got "busy" as reply. Hopefully someone else can snap a high resolution pics with a ruler as reference. Think that'd be enough to get those 2D parts drawn quickly
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-15-2016, 05:01 AM
			
			
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			The year matters. The tool is different for 2003 and later.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-15-2016, 09:08 AM
			
			
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			these are the measurements for the 5 chains locking tool. 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			07-15-2016, 12:34 PM
			
			
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			^ 3 chain.  The five chain is the long one with two locking tabs.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-15-2016, 03:01 PM
			
			
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				^ 3 chain.  The five chain is the long one with two locking tabs. 
			
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the short tool is for the 5 chains as the the grooves in the camshafts do not line up. 
you can lock only the lower camshaft. (which is fine as the 2 camshafts are connected via another chaine)
  
on the 3 chains they will line up, so you can tie them against each other with the long tool.
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			07-15-2016, 09:39 PM
			
			
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			OMG... I knew I should have checked this earlier! 
 
I ended-up tweaking my back out to just make my own three-chain cam locks. Yes, they turned-out almost exactly like the one pictured above, but instead of a hole for bolt, I made an open-ended slot. 
 
The one for the front, banks 1-3 is flat, The one for the back, banks 4-6 I made offset. Worked fine so far, 
 
Thanks again! 
 
PS...This is now a dead-end thread, as I am going to go post a new thread about what I found inside my IMS...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-16-2016, 01:56 AM
			
			
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			800mm length, that's nearly a metre long, pretty bi tool, is it supposed to be 80mm? 
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				these are the measurements for the 5 chains locking tool. 
  
			
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			07-16-2016, 07:37 AM
			
			
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				800mm length, that's nearly a metre long, pretty bi tool, is it supposed to be 80mm? 
			
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LOL! 
Yes.  It is 80.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-14-2023, 05:53 AM
			
			
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				800mm length, that's nearly a metre long, pretty bi tool, is it supposed to be 80mm? 
			
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I know this is old thread but I need to make one of these. Is there any dimensions on the hole for locking it to the head ?+
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-14-2023, 06:24 AM
			
			
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