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Pdwight 05-07-2016 08:40 PM

A place for my piece
 
I have been looking for a place to carry legally licensed handgun in my car that would not be the usual place to look if i thief were in there. I'm thinking of the "Pizza Oven" where it stays stored now in a yellow manila envelope sealed up. I thought if I ground off the "Nubs that allow you to slide the doors open and insert a Porsche Loge where the handles were it would cover up where they were ground off. Only glue one side so it only looks like panel with a Porsche Badge on it.....Thoughts ??

Thanks in advance

Dwight

Timco 05-07-2016 08:51 PM

I have my places to carry, but many on here will whine about gun talk. Get ready.

For me it's a sub compact .45 in the door. Glove box has my paperwork for work and such.

78F350 05-07-2016 09:27 PM

Buy Gator's CDR-210, gut it and convert it into a handgun safe. Put a hinged door behind the faceplate or use a cable-lock to keep your gun secured.
...Or gut the passenger airbag and use that space. Hey, that could be converted to a glove box on my '99. I hear that 10+ year old airbags just shoot shards of metal out now anyway. :eek:

Deserion 05-07-2016 10:09 PM

Generally I lock up my Glock in the console (barely fits) when I head in to work. Plus it's a good place to keep it if needed on the road. I do like the door pocket idea, Timco.

If I have my Walther on me that goes in the glovebox. But that's not too often since I'm "husky" and afraid of printing. :(

Alan Mackew 05-08-2016 01:48 AM

Oh my. God, only in America
 
You guys are insane with your guns, in my opinion,

With regret,

Alan

peterbrown77 05-08-2016 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Mackew (Post 495085)
You guys are insane with your guns, in my opinion,

With regret,

Alan


I'll tell you this - I got robbed at gunpoint at a gas station two years ago. Just as I was leaving, a guy came right in my passenger door with Glock in his hand. I rolled right out the driver's door. Gave him my wallet and he ran.

Lesson learned? The 9mm in my nightstand didn't do me one bit of good. Have to keep it close.

itsnotanova 05-08-2016 04:18 AM

Maybe not the most convenient location to get to quick, but what about tucked behind the engine firewall carpet? There's some foam inserts that can be removed easily.

jdraupp 05-08-2016 04:21 AM

Alan, why did you even post? If you have nothing pertinent to say, then say nothing.

My opinion? The best place for that gun is on you. Don't hide it in the car, carry it with. If you have to leave it there, center console and lock it. That's what I do.

Joe B 05-08-2016 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Mackew (Post 495085)
You guys are insane with your guns, in my opinion,

With regret,

Alan

+1. I've owned, shot and hunted with guns for >50 years (I own 12 now) and I have never seen the need to carry one in my car. It doesn't sound like having a gun in his car would have kept peterbrown77 from getting robbed. It's kind of hard to get your gun out when someone's already pointing one at you.

Giller 05-08-2016 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe B (Post 495098)
+1. I've owned, shot and hunted with guns for >50 years (I own 12 now) and I have never seen the need to carry one in my car. It doesn't sound like having a gun in his car would have kept peterbrown77 from getting robbed. It's kind of hard to get your gun out when someone's already pointing one at you.

Well said. If someone already has a gun pointed at you, it's far too late and doesn't matter where your gun is.

Sheesh, just give up the wallet and live to tell about it.

Timco 05-08-2016 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Mackew (Post 495085)
You guys are insane with your guns, in my opinion,

With regret,

Alan

I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks. :D

Timco 05-08-2016 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe B (Post 495098)
+1. I've owned, shot and hunted with guns for >50 years (I own 12 now) and I have never seen the need to carry one in my car. It doesn't sound like having a gun in his car would have kept peterbrown77 from getting robbed. It's kind of hard to get your gun out when someone's already pointing one at you.

If that was the only situation then that would fly. Two weeks back I pulled a very large para ordinance .45 Hy cap on a sexual predator jerking himself as he pulled next to my truck by my shop. The sheer terror in his actions and speed-away said it all. It's a sick, crazy world. I'll keep the upper hand and defend my space and family as I can.

78F350 05-08-2016 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe B (Post 495098)
+1. I've owned, shot and hunted with guns for >50 years (I own 12 now) and I have never seen the need to carry one in my car. ...

In Oklahoma and many other states there is a rapidly increasing number of people with concealed carry permits. Open carry is becoming more permissive in places. People who carry firearms outside the home need a place to secure them when they go into places where firearms are not permitted.
Keep one permanently in the car? Not my preference, but a friend who is on the police tactical unit keeps a short AR mounted in his POV.

CHRISP357 05-08-2016 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Mackew (Post 495085)
You guys are insane with your guns, in my opinion,

With regret,

Alan

No one asked for your opinion here.


With pity for the women and children in your family,

Chris

CHRISP357 05-08-2016 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe B (Post 495098)
+1. I've owned, shot and hunted with guns for >50 years (I own 12 now) and I have never seen the need to carry one in my car. It doesn't sound like having a gun in his car would have kept peterbrown77 from getting robbed. It's kind of hard to get your gun out when someone's already pointing one at you.

Your diatribe promoting weakness and victimization are not asked for here. Read the title of the post. Not interested? Move on. See how easy that is?

CHRISP357 05-08-2016 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Giller (Post 495102)
Well said. If someone already has a gun pointed at you, it's far too late and doesn't matter where your gun is.

Sheesh, just give up the wallet and live to tell about it.

Like a good little victim. Boy, that'll help put a stop to crime!
SMDH

CHRISP357 05-08-2016 07:19 AM

My opinion? The best place for that gun is on you. Don't hide it in the car, carry it with. If you have to leave it there, center console and lock it. That's what I do.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I hate to sound like an advertisement but invest in a Milt Sparks belt and holster and you'll never take it off. Even in the snug Porsche seats.

mavis.d 05-08-2016 07:21 AM

Only in America
Get a grip guys
Sorry but had to be said

Giller 05-08-2016 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CHRISP357 (Post 495121)
Like a good little victim. Boy, that'll help put a stop to crime!
SMDH

Be careful Chris. Because right now, there is ZERO proof that carrying a handgun reduces crime in any way.

Frankly - the crime rate is much higher in the US than it is in Canada, Australia, New Zeland, England......and the list goes on. Countries that do not allow you to own/carry handguns have lower crime rates. That's a fact.

While carrying a handgun may make you feel better, it sure isn't reducing crime that I can see.

BRAN 05-08-2016 07:27 AM

With a gun in your face...what is the benefit of a handgun, stowed away somewhere in your car?

I do see the need for self-defense in the states, but honestly I am more scared of a nutter with a gun going mental.
As I had to serve in the army, loooooong time ago, i had to fire all possible guns. Been there, done that. Most fun was the MG3...everything else is a toy :D

No need to carry guns here, thank god.

CHRISP357 05-08-2016 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Giller (Post 495126)
Be careful Chris. Because right now, there is ZERO proof that carrying a handgun reduces crime in any way.

Frankly - the crime rate is much higher in the US than it is in Canada, Australia, New Zeland, England......and the list goes on. Countries that do not allow you to own/carry handguns have lower crime rates. That's a fact.

While carrying a handgun may make you feel better, it sure isn't reducing crime that I can see.

Day dream about Utopia much? Australia disarmed all of their victims and murder rates with guns are up 7 percent and armed robberies are up 44 percent. Places like the UK, where they haven't allowed the lower caste to own guns forever, don't really count. (Although crimes with edged weapons are up massively) Canada has increasingly high numbers of gun use crimes. The only country in the world with decreasing crime? Yep. Right here.
Side note, I can guarantee no crime against myself or my daughter will be any where near as easy for the bad guys as it would be against you.

CHRISP357 05-08-2016 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 495127)
With a gun in your face...what is the benefit of a handgun, stowed away somewhere in your car?

I do see the need for self-defense in the states, but honestly I am more scared of a nutter with a gun going mental.
As I had to serve in the army, loooooong time ago, i had to fire all possible guns. Been there, done that. Most fun was the MG3...everything else is a toy :D

No need to carry guns here, thank god.

I wonder if those women who were raped, robbed and molested at your festival feel the same?
Listen, other countries, if you enjoy being passive potential victims then fine. I won't criticize you for it.
Most of us here prefer to be responsible for the safety of our families. Will we succeed every time? Sadly, no. But our odds are far better than anyone else's.

achillies 05-08-2016 07:43 AM

^^^^^Really too bad you need to go on and on about your "opinion" the OP asked for a place to put a gun in the car. I really could care less about your beliefs etc. You made your response to Alan but then needed to go on and on and on and on.

Chuck W. 05-08-2016 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsnotanova (Post 495093)
Maybe not the most convenient location to get to quick, but what about tucked behind the engine firewall carpet? There's some foam inserts that can be removed easily.

This is a great idea. A thief would never look there and it would be easily assessable if needed.

jdraupp 05-08-2016 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mavis.d (Post 495124)
Only in America
Get a grip guys
Sorry but had to be said

Actually it didn't need to be said. Like at all. You live in the UK. You were raised in a different culture. Don't pretend to sit on a hill and look down on us like you have the answers and superior point of view. I said this in the other thread that somehow has gotten to a gun right discussion...and i say it for our austrailian friends, our canadian friends, really anyone who isn't American. You don't understand our culture or rights. I sure dont pretend to understand yours. Stop judging us through your lens. Further, if you have nothing constructive to say then say nothing. I'm sure our cultures share that idea.

paulofto 05-08-2016 08:28 AM

I have only one comment to make . . . . . . Oh never mind . . . .

Timco 05-08-2016 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mavis.d (Post 495124)
Only in America
Get a grip guys
Sorry but had to be said

Oh, I have a grip. Many. Hogue (sp?) is the best.

BRAN 05-08-2016 09:24 AM

Guys, guys...no one wants to take your toys away, you can keep 'em, if it makes you feel better.
Is there a full moon coming?

Timco 05-08-2016 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 495145)
Guys, guys...no one wants to take your toys away, you can keep 'em, if it makes you feel better.
Is there a full moon coming?

Have you seen Hilary Clinton speak???

BIGJake111 05-08-2016 09:47 AM

I feel that the door pocket or even behind the passenger seat would be best. You could access the pocket behind the passenger seat very quickly if you have longer arms and be prepared to exercise your right to defend yourself, your loved ones, and your property, from foreign invaders, the government, and criminals alike. Just in case. I believe in gun ownership because it takes too long to learn kung fu like Jackie chan.

A majority of people left and right in America are peddling authoritarian government, the individual deserves a defense, in case of the worst case scenario.


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BRAN 05-08-2016 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 495147)
Have you seen Hilary Clinton speak???

Do i have to? What did she say now? OMG did I quote her......nooooooooooooooo :D

Giller 05-08-2016 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHRISP357 (Post 495128)
Day dream about Utopia much? Australia disarmed all of their victims and murder rates with guns are up 7 percent and armed robberies are up 44 percent. Places like the UK, where they haven't allowed the lower caste to own guns forever, don't really count. (Although crimes with edged weapons are up massively) Canada has increasingly high numbers of gun use crimes. The only country in the world with decreasing crime? Yep. Right here.
Side note, I can guarantee no crime against myself or my daughter will be any where near as easy for the bad guys as it would be against you.

Canada has increasingly high numbers of gun use crimes? Where do you get that stat from?

You can talk about reducing crime in the states all you like, it is still far far far higher than countries who don't allow guns.

Unfortunately, all the facts and stats show it is far safer to live unarmed than armed.

If you want to argue it's your right, go ahead. I'm not taking that away. I'm just talking facts. Yes, it's your right. But don't try to pretend it's safer when it clearly isn't.

Deserion 05-08-2016 10:14 AM

I wonder how difficult it would be to fab up a small metal lockbox to bolt in under the passenger seat.

mavis.d 05-08-2016 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdraupp (Post 495134)
Actually it didn't need to be said. Like at all. You live in the UK. You were raised in a different culture. Don't pretend to sit on a hill and look down on us like you have the answers and superior point of view. I said this in the other thread that somehow has gotten to a gun right discussion...and i say it for our austrailian friends, our canadian friends, really anyone who isn't American. You don't understand our culture or rights. I sure dont pretend to understand yours. Stop judging us through your lens. Further, if you have nothing constructive to say then say nothing. I'm sure our cultures share that idea.

Just the response I was expecting I'm not looking from any hill but it's all down to the law of demimishing returns if you have a stick I'll get a bigger one
Oh btw please tell your president to mind his own business and stop telling me how to vote in a national election if the boot was on the other foot I'm sure it wouldn't go down too well

jdraupp 05-08-2016 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mavis.d (Post 495162)
Just the response I was expecting I'm not looking from any hill but it's all down to the law of demimishing returns if you have a stick I'll get a bigger one
Oh btw please tell your president to mind his own business and stop telling me how to vote in a national election if the boot was on the other foot I'm sure it wouldn't go down too well

If you wish to look past my point, that's fine. All I'm trying to say is I don't pretend to understand your culture. I do, however, respect that it's different than mine. In a similar way, I don't expect you to understand why we Americans enjoy our rights to own guns, but I would expect as a reasonable human being that you could at least respect it. I don't get that vibe from your snotty comment, and I invite you to better clarify your comment to me if I am wrong.

"My" president doesnt listen to much. In fact he's the reason for the spike in gun sales. He does whatever he wants. Will likely go down as one of the worst in history if you ask me. I'm guessing you aren't asking me though because you obviously lump all Americans together and have disdain for all of us due to the actions of one. Do a little more free thinking and zoom in on his approval rating first.

And timco is right. Hillary isn't too fond of the rights guaranteed by our country's founders and she'd fight tooth and nail to take every gun from citizens who abide by laws and legally own firearms for hunting or protection. Meanwhile, the criminal element will continue to obtain them and use them for malice. That's a whole other conversation though.

Timco 05-08-2016 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mavis.d (Post 495162)
Just the response I was expecting I'm not looking from any hill but it's all down to the law of demimishing returns if you have a stick I'll get a bigger one
Oh btw please tell your president to mind his own business and stop telling me how to vote in a national election if the boot was on the other foot I'm sure it wouldn't go down too well

One thing clear. Not every gun owner straps their AR15 on their back at Walmart or the mall. That's the stereotype the left wants the world to see. Drink that koolaid if you wish.

And all add one more thing. He is NOT my president. Didn't vote for him, disagree on almost everything he says, and I'm tired of being the world's police force. We should indeed stay out of your business.

Timco 05-08-2016 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdraupp (Post 495165)
If you wish to look past my point, that's fine. All I'm trying to say is I don't pretend to understand your culture. I do, however, respect that it's different than mine. In a similar way, I don't expect you to understand why we Americans enjoy our rights to own guns, but I would expect as a reasonable human being that you could at least respect it. I don't get that vibe from your snotty comment, and I invite you to better clarify your comment to me if I am wrong.

"My" president doesnt listen to much. In fact he's the reason for the spike in gun sales. He does whatever he wants. Will likely go down as one of the worst in history if you ask me. I'm guessing you aren't asking me though because you obviously lump all Americans together and have disdain for all of us due to the actions of one. Do a little more free thinking and zoom in on his approval rating first.

And timco is right. Hillary isn't too fond of the rights guaranteed by our country's founders and she'd fight tooth and nail to take every gun from citizens who abide by laws and legally own firearms for hunting or protection. Meanwhile, the criminal element will continue to obtain them and use them for malice. That's a whole other conversation though.

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mavis.d 05-08-2016 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdraupp (Post 495165)
If you wish to look past my point, that's fine. All I'm trying to say is I don't pretend to understand your culture. I do, however, respect that it's different than mine. In a similar way, I don't expect you to understand why we Americans enjoy our rights to own guns, but I would expect as a reasonable human being that you could at least respect it. I don't get that vibe from your snotty comment, and I invite you to better clarify your comment to me if I am wrong.

"My" president doesnt listen to much. In fact he's the reason for the spike in gun sales. He does whatever he wants. Will likely go down as one of the worst in history if you ask me. I'm guessing you aren't asking me though because you obviously lump all Americans together and have disdain for all of us due to the actions of one. Do a little more free thinking and zoom in on his approval rating first.

And timco is right. Hillary isn't too fond of the rights guaranteed by our country's founders and she'd fight tooth and nail to take every gun from citizens who abide by laws and legally own firearms for hunting or protection. Meanwhile, the criminal element will continue to obtain them and use them for malice. That's a whole other conversation though.

Wow a reasonable human being what a comment if my comment is snotty what is yours?
I respect ever body's right to be themselves. Surely that's part of being a democracy.
The point I'm trying to make is that if you carry a big stick someone else is going to catty a bigger one. If you decriminalise guns all that will be left will be the illegal ones so in that sense your up ship creek without a paddle.
I have no distain for you or your country and maybe I don't understand why you feel the need the bear arms but what I do know is that I live in a major city and can sleep well in my bed at night or drive around with the roof down where I want.
I know that there a number of countries in the world that have worse gun problems than yours but is that anything to be proud of?

On a separate note I don't envy your choice, Trump or Clinton :o

CHRISP357 05-08-2016 12:14 PM

On a separate note I don't envy your choice, Trump or Clinton :o[/QUOTE]

From the country that just elected a Muslim mayor for London. Let us know how that works out for you.

CHRISP357 05-08-2016 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Giller (Post 495155)
Canada has increasingly high numbers of gun use crimes? Where do you get that stat from?

You can talk about reducing crime in the states all you like, it is still far far far higher than countries who don't allow guns.

Unfortunately, all the facts and stats show it is far safer to live unarmed than armed.

If you want to argue it's your right, go ahead. I'm not taking that away. I'm just talking facts. Yes, it's your right. But don't try to pretend it's safer when it clearly isn't.

Facts and statistics are very easy to learn in this modern world. The problem is, you lefties don't like facts.


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