Do we need a moderator?
 

I've always liked how open this forum was and the lack of supervision. Most of the time everything worked it's way out, but these threads the last few days have got me rethinking the lack of a moderator on here. I'm the kind of a guy who will let people fight it out. I'm not sure that's a good approach for here though. I'm afraid we're more than likely just going to lose people instead. We need more :cheers: and less :matchup:. I hate to see us lose anyone because we're not that big of a family.
Another issue I have is I think some of the stickies are outdated and need to be removed or replaced. I also think the forum as a whole needs to somehow try and start getting more involvement from the newer Boxster and Cayman crowd.
What do you guys think?

Agreed, more moderation would be welcome here!

Hi,

well i don't think we need more moderation. Why? Because people are old enough.

A totally outdated forum software would be my point. Also the forum is sometimes very confusing, because there are tons of topics with the same content and sometimes you really don't find what you're looking for. FAQ section would be great.

Just my 2 cents

Regards
Markus

There has not been an active moderator here since Brucelee a few years ago. It normally works out okay, but I agree one or two moderators to quickly deal with any situations like what has happened recently or to just deal with spam would be welcome. That said, I've been on this board a while and I can only recall a handful of threads that needed moderator intervention. If the powers that be decided to appoint a new mod, I wouldn't mind doing it, I'm on here everyday anyway. :cheers:

I would agree that we don't need more active moderators. In the 2+ years I have been on this forum, there have been less than a handful of threads that went off the rails and required intervention. In one case it was almost universal in opinion of shutting it down.

As far as getting more newer Boxster and Cayman people involved, well without wanting to sound like a snob, I would prefer this forum stay focused on the 986, not newer models. There are many other forums that are focused on 987 and 981 models. If would be a shame if this turned into rennlist

Moderation is good if its on a one off basis when things get out of hand, but life and families are also full of disputes so we cant sterilize too much or the moderation starts to compromise the freedom of opinions.

I think a good resolution to the ParticleWave vs Pedro dispute is for a Moderator to ask both to disengage from those threads for the good of the forum.

If that does not work, then delete the threads.

Points have been made on both sides enough so members can investigate further of their own accord if they are interested in the products in question.

The truth is rarely black and white, good or bad, you just have to make up your own mind and move on.

So limited moderation when things get ugly would be my vote.

Actually Smallblock has a point. Perhaps it's time that this forum had a software update?

It's ridiculously old and could do with freshening up.

I agree on the software update.....the ability to 'Like' or 'Agree' with a post would be nice, instead of having to reply with "Looks nice!"

Obviously, an option to block/hide a given thread would be awesome.

All we need is for Mark to step up and act on IMs or reports. It's not too much to ask. Take out the damn trash once in a while.

A newer format would be nice.

I'm on quite a few car forums, and quite honestly, this one is the EASIEST to follow and use. Search is, of course, useless - but other than that I'd say careful what you wish for...

As for Moderation, meh...this will all blow over and we'll get back to :cheers: soon enough...

I've been active on this forum for nearly 12 years. This is, by enlarge, a great group of people with whom to share information, celebrate and commiserate when things go wrong with our aging water cooled porsches. And I've seen a lot of power-posting people come and go.

While we don't have an active moderator, I'm wondering how everyone has experienced the moderators when something is flagged or brought to their attention. If there's a decent response time, I would think we could simply all agree to do a better job of flagging posts and abusive behavior.

Thoughts?

As to Woody's other comment about discussions for newer Porsche owners, I would think a forum of their own might be more appropriate (987forum.com, for example).

Reluctantly, yes we do need a Moderator
 

There are the same few 'contributors' to almost every nasty spat.
There are an even smaller number of initiators.
When the name calling starts, I just unsubscribe. The name calling usually terminates any useful information or help anyway. It just becomes an ugly ,bullying and childish exchange. So it is a waste of time to stay subscribed.
So when the mud-slinging starts, the lack of Moderation obstructs the Forum objective of mutual help with our Boxster problems.
The generally polite and cordial tone of this Forum is what I enjoy. There is another forum where nastiness seems to be tolerated - even condoned. Interestingly the trouble-makers from this Forum seem to be even more vitriolic there. One offender here was banned from the other site - he uses a different 'name' but we all know who he is...
A timely reminder from a Moderator of the Forum Rules and Objectives or a time-out would be helpful for the hot-heads.
That way we keep useful members who just need a little help moderating their statements.For these reasons I suggest all parties would benefit from Moderation..

As far as getting more newer Boxster and Cayman people involved, well without wanting to sound like a snob, I would prefer this forum stay focused on the 986, not newer models. There are many other forums that are focused on 987 and 981 models. If would be a shame if this turned into rennlist[/QUOTE]


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I am with you Woody. Heck my wallet would much lighter with out you. Smallblock hits the point perfectly here. It is confusing having the same problems with no how to section. It would useful to have one that is managed well. We all usually end up with the same problems. Why not have a simpler way of handling them?

As far as getting more newer Boxster and Cayman people involved, well without wanting to sound like a snob, I would prefer this forum stay focused on the 986, not newer models. There are many other forums that are focused on 987 and 981 models. If would be a shame if this turned into rennlist[/QUOTE]

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Issues and solutions for our 986 cars are different than those for the newer cars. Having a mix of 986/987/981 posts would make things really confusing and possibly more contentious.

I self moderate. I don't allow myself to get sucked into the webernets arguments. The leaders of this type of nonsense will drag you in, pull you down to their level and beat you with their experience. Like wrestling a pig, you will get filthy, the pig will win and will like it.

Just my .002

I too self moderate, sometimes throwing in my 3 cents Canadian, 2 cents American other times just grabbing some popcorn & an adult beverage and watch. 99.9% of the time things here are friendly and copacetic.

Sometimes there is mud slinging but it is nowhere near as confrontational as Rennlist. It is way more inclusive and sharing here. And it is a lot easier to navigate.

That said, a moderator to keep things cleaned up administration wise would be nice. But let's keep this a 986 first forum. 987, 981 . . hell 996 are welcome because they all share something with the 986 but the emphasis on our cars is most important i believe.

So here's to us :cheers: and happy Boxstering!

What? We dont have moderators? i have been refraining myself all this time from insulting everybody for no reason! Lol

Well now you can let 'er rip!!

Actually, it's been made clear I can't talk about cats anymore. :confused:

They do keep tabs occasionally. Mark was very cool about it.

We don't need no stink-in Moderators

I would agree that some sort of Voting/Like/Dislike/Disguised against threads that go out side the box or Boxster

Freedom of Speech and all.

Part of the appeal and draw of a forum like this is having some very knowledge and professional contributors that can set the less knowledgeable and learning(Me) on to the right path.

Bashing will drive away those in the know, keep new away and drive the rest of us somewhere else

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Sorry I couldn't help myself...

I agree with your original sentiment Woody... Lets all be civil around here. Our cars are all way too much fun (most of the time) to be on the internet getting upset.

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I don't think I quite agree with you. If I move over to a 987 or 981 I would hate to have to move on from the people and the help that I appreciate so much on this forum.

As far as a moderator, I haven't needed a babysitter to settle things for me since I was about ten.

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Issues and solutions for our 986 cars are different than those for the newer cars. Having a mix of 986/987/981 posts would make things really confusing and possibly more contentious.[/QUOTE]

The challenge with this attitude is that then slowly, this forum will die. 986's are getting older and older and are slowly coming off the road. I personally moved to a 987 late last year as my old 986 was just too beat up to put more money into it.

And as someone pointed out- these forums are simple. Very simply laid out, easy to navigate and, for the most part, a good group of people. Lots of us are looking for an alternative to Rennlist....and I don't see how newer PCar owners will impact that.

The challenge with this attitude is that then slowly, this forum will die. 986's are getting older and older and are slowly coming off the road. I personally moved to a 987 late last year as my old 986 was just too beat up to put more money into it.

And as someone pointed out- these forums are simple. Very simply laid out, easy to navigate and, for the most part, a good group of people. Lots of us are looking for an alternative to Rennlist....and I don't see how newer PCar owners will impact that.[/QUOTE]


The forum will not die but it will change... The age will drop to the mid 20's and late teens as the 944 forums have over the years

great, just what we need, being overrun by a bunch of Millennials :barf:
LOL

Big Jake, does not apply to you :)

Yes - and rumour has it they all eat at the Cheesecake Factory!

I'm pretty happy with the current software and don't really think this place needs a mod. I do wish I could like posts though.


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We'll see. I have noticed a lot of members that have moved on to other cars, yet keep coming back. Change is inevitable. I plan to keep a couple 986s around as long as they care to stay, but expect I'll migrate to a 987 as well. My guess is that this will remain the best Boxster forum and slowly gravitate to the newer (yet still old) cars.

As for moderators, for the most part the forum is self-cleansing. Landa, cats, street racing... When things get way out of hand, Wayne or one of his people do eventually lock or delete the bad threads. Looking at the post count and view count, the worst threads do attract the most attention. That "Submit Reply" button can be dangerous. Maybe they should add another button after that says, "Are You Sure?"
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Let me put this on my snapchat story, put on my SnapBack, do some burnouts in a police station parking lot write a thread about picking up babes in the box and then I'll get back to you on that ;).

you forgot to add
stuffing a girl in the frunk :p

When you reply to a post that you like or agree with, just type "+1"

Maybe someone that also has an air cooled Porsche and knows an air cooled forum can verify wether or not its popular, is keeping members, and adding new members as well getting contributions and good quality information?

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My updated campaign photo:p. Seriously though, Rick3000 can have it because I'm not sure I'm qualified to do it. It looks like most of us would prefer no moderator or just someone to clean house every once in awhile.

When I say I want newer model in the mix, I'm thinking more activity in the 987 section of this forum. I think we could benefit from having newer models to learn from. Shifter, air box, that kind of stuff. Meeting of the minds kind of information.

Not to thread jack... But Woody, you have 944's now too?! I just bought an '84 944 to turn in to a track car 8 weeks ago. Personally this could be a positive development for me! PM me if you do!!

Cheers,

-Rob

FWIW I have been on this forum about as long as Randall and we have seen some changes over the years. A long time ago there was a moderator who was very involved and a regular poster (Bruce Lee). Sometimes things got too personal and caused heartburn even with an active mod. We have seen some very interesting personalities over the last 10 years but this is still the best and friendliest car forum I know.

There are no perfect solutions. With any group of people there will occasionally be disagreements and folks get feelings hurt. Remember that this is just a car forum among friends. Don't take this stuff personally. If you find yourself needing to go all "keyboard commando" over someone's post, check yourself and maybe take a break from 986 for a few days. It's just a car forum.

I owned my 986 for 10 years and she was a great car. Probably the most fun car I have ever owned. I now have a 987.2 and am enjoying new adventures but still pop in here out of long time friendships with others who have similar interests. Hopefully my experiences with the Boxster will still be useful to others and I enjoy reading other's experiences as they discover their 986 along the way.

Rock on 986Forum!

I was on this forum when Bruce Lee was mod and I left it for years because of him. This forum, with few exceptions, is well run by its members who typically exercise control over their emotions. If you compare this forum with the Pelican Parts forum this forum is well mannered and informative and not the wild west where you have to wear a flame retardant suit when you log on and I hope this forum doesn't turn into it. I vote for restraint before we elect a sheriff and see how it goes for a while. We can't let one or two incidents cause an over reaction as the members seem to be capable of handling the situations.:cheers:

I'm for self-regulation with the exception of maintaining subject discipline in the threads- a 'moderator' could help steer folks when they start to stray off topic.

If we cannot be gentlemen (and ladies) in this forum, then that behavior should not be tolerated by the group. Maybe disagreements get two civil replies max, then you take it off line. A reminder of our shared purpose would be well timed when things start to slip. Self-regulation can handle this if we all agree to help out.

Moderators can be a very positive addition to any forum, provided that:

1. The forum rules are clearly stated, and agreeing to them is a requirement of joining.
2. The moderator(s) actions are equitable and according to the forum rules you agreed to when you joined.
3. The moderator's actions are both quick and appropriate to the incident at hand.

There are other Porsche related forums that function in this way, maintaining a "no nonsense" approach to rules violations. If the latest incident had begun there, it would have quickly been over, with those involved first warned, and then permanently banned (yes, that can be done) if the offense reoccurred. It works well, encourages civil exchanges, and eliminates such unfortunate threads.

Unfortunately, self regulation on internet forums is more of an idealistic concept rather than a reality. We live in a world where it takes locks to keep honest people honest...........

For a splendid example of a very well Moderated and useful Forum ,I suggest the curious check out RennTech. Susrprised JFP didn't mention it :-).