Too much oil??!?!?!? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

MNBoxster · 05-14-2006, 09:58 PM

Hi,

The short answer is YES. But, if all it is is a single Bar over, it's nothing to worry about. Problem is, if it's at the Top Bar, it could be much higher with no additional Bar(s) to measure it.

In these Cars, it's better to run a little on the Low side rather than the High side. This is because with almost 9 Qts. it's gonna still have plenty of Oil, even if it is a tad Low. But, if it's High, this can foul the Plugs and lead to premature death of the Cats and O² Sensors.

My suggestion is to drive it for a day, park it on level ground overnight and then check it by using the Countdown Oil Measure by just turning the Ignition to ON (but without going all the way to Start). The Digital Gauge is notoriously inaccurate (though some are OK) and you may find that the Oil had just not fully circulated and so was registering a bit High.

If it is still high, return to the Dealer and have them drain a little. You don't have a dipstick and so can't use the MityVac Extraction Method.

Ask the Dealer how much they put in (which probably means nothing because they won't know emphatically, nor did they measure how much they drained out). Also, be sure to ask them if they changed the Filter (for $280 they Bloody well should have) along with the Change (if not, they could have overfilled the system by NOT allowing for the Oil which didn't drain from the Filter). I am so distrustful of Dealer Oil Changes, not to mention the $$, that I would never let them do it, but that's me. I would also wear my size 12's and raise a stink considering they are the Dealer and they charged you $280 to NOT get it right. Oil Changes are not Rocket Science, they really have no excuse to have been so careless if it turns out they did in fact overfill it. Worse case, they'll give you a discount on the next service or Oil Change. Hope this helps...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99 (thanking God he has a Dipstick)

Rondog · 05-14-2006, 10:20 PM

Jim,

Thanks for the input... I will call the dealer tomorrow and ask them as well....
Nothing like adding injury to insult..paying thru yur ass for the Oil Change and then having them do it incorrectly......life aint always fair!

I am guessing there will be a lot of hemming/hawing and denials----we'll see...

Brucelee · 05-15-2006, 05:39 AM

This is all assuming the little bars device is accurate.

I for one don't trust these devices but without a dispstick, what is our choice?

dezigns · 05-26-2006, 08:35 PM

hi all...any update on this particular incident? i just got the first oil change on my 987S at the dealer as well...now I have full bars (all bars highlighted, even the top small one). I think I will call the dealer tomorrow...is this anything to worry about?

what was the outcome of the post topic? did they siphon oil out?

986Jim · 05-27-2006, 06:56 AM

987 doesn't have a dip stick? Thats bizzare.

Brucelee · 05-27-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 986Jim

987 doesn't have a dip stick? Thats bizzare.

Neither do the new BMW 3 series. This is a trend, which I do not like.

In addition to having to trust these fundamentally unreliable electronics and sensors (with our $15K motors at risk) we cannot use an evacuator to remove oil.

To me, it is the continuing effort to make sure we MUST go back to the dealer for service.

Rondog · 05-27-2006, 12:19 PM

i called and talked to the service manager expressing my concern at the "full bars".... He told me that he was confident that the tech did not overfill AND that he encourages his techs to fill to the top bar--- i aint making that up....

He also told me that i could bring it by and they would double check it..."from the back". I dont know what that means and while i should have asked...... i didn't.

I have not had the time to drop by...so i continue to drive with "full bars" -- i have not noticed any performance difference, but still have that lingering concern.

This also brings up another point that has been discussed --- DEALER SERVICE---

While i am not one to necessarily rag on the dealer for having higher (sometimes MUCH higher prices) on parts and service-- The one thing i DO expect is superior customer service and HONESTY. ---(naive..am i!)
I must sadly say that my few encounters with my local dealer has not lived up to my expectations....While they are courteous... i am often put on hold for long periods..... When i leave messages, they never seem to call back promptly when they even call back at all--- When i had my car serviced, i asked for a pricing on a couple of other services----- (ding removal and windstop installation) and had to call them back 2 times before they remembered to quote it....(they finally quoted the windstop on my service receipt.... i called and had it requoted a few weeks later when i decided to do it and the new quote was $100 cheaper) My last car was a MB e320 and the dealer, a HUGE dealer, made me feel like a million bucks. --- My Porsche dealer makes me feel as if i am a bother to them.--- Maybe i am being a little harsh here and maybe i have not had enough experience with them, but i just expected more.

I run a client oriented business and i am very sensitive about giving my clients MORE than they expect. These guys need a refresher course in customer relations.

RD

dezigns · 05-27-2006, 03:06 PM

no sir...nothing in the manual either...of course I'm new to the car - but I cant locate one for the life of me (dipstick that is). damnit, the dealer is closed until Tuesday. I really actually like my dealer - good, knowledgeable people that understand we care that much about our cars. I'll let you know what transpires when I talk to them.

Brucelee · 05-27-2006, 03:15 PM

You don't have a dipstick in your 05!

MNBoxster · 05-27-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dezigns

no sir...nothing in the manual either...of course I'm new to the car - but I cant locate one for the life of me (dipstick that is). damnit, the dealer is closed until Tuesday. I really actually like my dealer - good, knowledgeable people that understand we care that much about our cars. I'll let you know what transpires when I talk to them.

Hi,

No from '01 MY onwards, there is no Dipstick. The difference between the Full mark (1 below the Top Bar) and the minimum is 1.6 Qts. If you go below this level, the bottom Bar will flash. Hope this helps...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99