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Old 12-08-2015, 04:41 AM   #1
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det·ri·men·tal
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adjective: detrimental

tending to cause harm.
Yeah, I was wondering why Jake chose that word. Didn't seem to fit the rest of the sentence !
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Yeah, I was wondering why Jake chose that word. Didn't seem to fit the rest of the sentence !
I think he meant instrumental.
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I have been using the Hankook V12's and had them on the car for 3 years already with a Performance driving school, 3-4 Auto-X's, and 2 years of daily driving and the things still have good tread and great traction.

I was hoping to get rid of them by now so I could go to the next stickier version for better Auto-Xing but they are just lasting far too long.

They handle extremely well in the wet as well as I found out during the Performance driving school as it was a little hard to get the car to spin out on the wet sudsy pavement in the parking lot. The instructor had to pull some hand brake at the opportune moment to get her to spin out.
The 60mph braking and dodging a cone in the wet was far too easy as well...very short stopping distance surprised me and the instructor...impressive.

The V12's are a fantastic daily tire for the dry/wet and I feel they were decent on the track but could benefit from more stickiness.

I like doing high performance takeoffs from a light and I have noticed this year that I'm getting a little slipping in the colder weather and actually even squawked the tires the other day instead of them just hooking up solid and launching the car forward with high G's, so perhaps they are starting to reach end of life.

Anyone have a recommendation for a Auto-X / Daily tire thats stickier than the V12's in the dry?

(Probably should just get another set of rims for Auto-X)
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:07 AM   #4
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I have been using the Hankook V12's and had them on the car for 3 years already with a Performance driving school, 3-4 Auto-X's, and 2 years of daily driving and the things still have good tread and great traction.

I was hoping to get rid of them by now so I could go to the next stickier version for better Auto-Xing but they are just lasting far too long.

They handle extremely well in the wet as well as I found out during the Performance driving school as it was a little hard to get the car to spin out on the wet sudsy pavement in the parking lot. The instructor had to pull some hand brake at the opportune moment to get her to spin out.
The 60mph braking and dodging a cone in the wet was far too easy as well...very short stopping distance surprised me and the instructor...impressive.

The V12's are a fantastic daily tire for the dry/wet and I feel they were decent on the track but could benefit from more stickiness.

I like doing high performance takeoffs from a light and I have noticed this year that I'm getting a little slipping in the colder weather and actually even squawked the tires the other day instead of them just hooking up solid and launching the car forward with high G's, so perhaps they are starting to reach end of life.

Anyone have a recommendation for a Auto-X / Daily tire thats stickier than the V12's in the dry?

(Probably should just get another set of rims for Auto-X)
I had V12's and they were great for street driving and I found them OK for AX. They could not handle the heat on the track at all. Once they got hot, very greasy. Mine were toast in about 10k miles

From my research, Hankook RS-3, Dunlop Direzza Star Spec and Bridgestone RE-71 are very popular for sticker tires that are still very streetable.

The RE-71 is definitely the "hot" street tire for AX and track right now, but they wear really fast. Even though they are rated 200TW, they are probably more like 100 TW. Think "cheater" tire, but legal. You just won't get long tread life

RS-3 has been the "hot" tire for a while and is a very good performer. If you are tracking them, they will probably heat cycle out before the tread wears out. A solid choice in any case.

The Star Specs are very popular, maybe slightly less sticky then the RE-71 and last and last. They heat cycle better than the RS-3 and will last longer. the only bad thing I have read about them is they can be noisy. I do know several people running them and they have not complained them being noisy and they are simply great performing tires.

I am putting a set of Star Spec on my AX/track 17" wheels today and will be using them as DD for a few weeks. FYI, 17" tires are a lot less $$ then 18"
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