11-17-2015, 11:52 AM
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Side Porsche
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brake pad wear sensor
Are they the same on front and rear?
I can't find any definitive information after searching for about an hour. I figured it was an easy question.
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11-17-2015, 12:11 PM
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I would say yes. They appear to be the same to me.
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11-17-2015, 12:40 PM
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Yeah, I noticed that as well, but that doesn't change that places sell a set of 4 with all same part numbers. That does not mean that the Porsche part isn't slightly different but plausible to use on both front and back either...... guess i'll find out and report back.
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11-17-2015, 01:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
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Well that wouldn't surprise me. I'm wrong a lot.....just ask my wife
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11-17-2015, 01:15 PM
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Last edited by Frodo; 11-17-2015 at 01:20 PM.
Reason: Accidental double post
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11-17-2015, 01:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mipstien
Yeah, I noticed that as well, but that doesn't change that places sell a set of 4 with all same part numbers. That does not mean that the Porsche part isn't slightly different but plausible to use on both front and back either...... guess i'll find out and report back.
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Yeah, you may be right on that. In one of the reviews the corroborates what you say:
Installed on my 2002 986S
By Paul S., submitted May 27, 2014
Comments: Fit for fronts and rears. Works great. Same part number for all 4 wheels.
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11-17-2015, 03:08 PM
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Artist, 986S tinkerer
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Sometimes it's just the length of the wire that differs, as with the O2 sensors.
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05-25-2017, 05:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mipstien
...... guess i'll find out and report back.
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Can you please report back?
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05-25-2017, 06:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulDash
Can you please report back?
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They worked great. They were short but not too short and fit snug without stretching.
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05-25-2017, 07:24 AM
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You really don't need them at all.
Its really easy to see the pads through a wheel
Most people I know that track or AX their cars don't use them at all.
Just tie them off with a cable tie
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05-25-2017, 07:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JayG
You really don't need them at all.
Its really easy to see the pads through a wheel
Most people I know that track or AX their cars don't use them at all.
Just tie them off with a cable tie
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I personally didn't want the ecu error and they are easy to change. Just my opinion
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05-25-2017, 08:26 AM
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There is no "ECU error", they just illuminate a dash cluster bulb.
Also, there is no "sensor". It's just a "U" shaped piece of wire. Save yourself $40 and make your own (or remove the cluster bulb).
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05-25-2017, 08:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by particlewave
There is no "ECU error", they just illuminate a dash cluster bulb.
Also, there is no "sensor". It's just a "U" shaped piece of wire. Save yourself $40 and make your own (or remove the cluster bulb). 
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Not many bought these cars to budget build! Why ghetto it?
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05-25-2017, 08:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mipstien
Not many bought these cars to budget build! Why ghetto it?
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Maybe, maybe not. I would guess that a lot of us who frequently track our cars spend more time wrenching and jerry-rigging stuff than worrying about the niceties of proper part numbers. Different philosophies, I guess.
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05-25-2017, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewArt
Maybe, maybe not. I would guess that a lot of us who frequently track our cars spend more time wrenching and jerry-rigging stuff than worrying about the niceties of proper part numbers. Different philosophies, I guess. 
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I don't track my car. So not relevant to me.
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05-25-2017, 08:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mipstien
Not many bought these cars to budget build! Why ghetto it?
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LOL - not 'ghetto' at all. That's actually an extremely ignorant statement.
In all sincerity, the sensors are just a simple form of idiot light b/c too many idiot drivers ignored the metal noise makers (tabs on pads which made them squeal at min thickness).
Likewise, sensors are very susceptible to breakage from the elements - heat in particular. As stated w/ minimal 'effort', and would would be considered proper maintenance, one can easily inspect the pads, their thickness, condition i.e. chamfering which occurs with use and can be dangerous. All of which is not reportable w/ the idiot sensor.
Ghetto - LOL.
Good luck!
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05-25-2017, 08:49 AM
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most track pads don't come with openings for the sensors. further, at the track you should be visually inspecting your brakes, not waiting for a light to come on. finally, heat from track use can cause the sensors to fail prematurely.
soln? snip the wires just short of the plug and twist them together. ecu sees continuity and assumes all is good.
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05-25-2017, 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burg Boxster
LOL - not 'ghetto' at all. That's actually an extremely ignorant statement.
In all sincerity, the sensors are just a simple form of idiot light b/c too many idiot drivers ignored the metal noise makers (tabs on pads which made them squeal at min thickness).
Likewise, sensors are very susceptible to breakage from the elements - heat in particular. As stated w/ minimal 'effort', and would would be considered proper maintenance, one can easily inspect the pads, their thickness, condition i.e. chamfering which occurs with use and can be dangerous. All of which is not reportable w/ the idiot sensor.
Ghetto - LOL.
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Maybe it wasn't politically correct for you but I find it spot on to what I meant by it. It is what it is. Not really up for an internet argument. We all know how that ends and besides it's just opinion lol. Don't get your panties inn a wad.
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05-25-2017, 09:05 AM
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Haha, I guess that makes me guilty! Dropped my engine, locked the cams, redid the cam chains, pads and put it all back together and never bought one "special Porche tool # " in my life! Works for me!
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