The New Mazda Miata

[Gelbster]

I own a Porsche and a Miata.Had & struggled with NA,NB,NC. But have given up on the ND. Lack of torque,lack of headroom.Lack of power options.One size fits all arrogance from Mazda does not work for me.

[Racer Boy]

Originally Posted by Gelbster

I own a Porsche and a Miata.Had & struggled with NA,NB,NC. But have given up on the ND. Lack of torque,lack of headroom.Lack of power options.One size fits all arrogance from Mazda does not work for me.

The new Miata is nearly as quick as a base 986, with a mid-six second 0-60 time. They are surprisingly quick cars.

Lack of power options? The car is designed to be more of an elemental sports car, and lightweight (as light as the original generation of the Miata). You can manually raise or lower the top quicker than the power top on our 986's can do it.

I've owned Miatas in the past (including a Spec Miata racecar), and they are terrific cars, without many, no, make that any of the designed-in failure points that the Boxster has. Keep in mind that the Mazda is designed to a much lower price point than a Boxster. You can get a new Miata for around $25K. What is the base list for a new Boxster? Really, comparing the two cars is like apples-to-oranges.

Ironic that a Porsche owner accuses Mazda of being arrogant!

[jdraupp]

Originally Posted by Racer Boy

The new Miata is nearly as quick as a base 986, with a mid-six second 0-60 time. They are surprisingly quick cars.

Lack of power options? The car is designed to be more of an elemental sports car, and lightweight (as light as the original generation of the Miata). You can manually raise or lower the top quicker than the power top on our 986's can do it.

I've owned Miatas in the past (including a Spec Miata racecar), and they are terrific cars, without many, no, make that any of the designed-in failure points that the Boxster has. Keep in mind that the Mazda is designed to a much lower price point than a Boxster. You can get a new Miata for around $25K. What is the base list for a new Boxster? Really, comparing the two cars is like apples-to-oranges.

Ironic that a Porsche owner accuses Mazda of being arrogant!

Sounds to me like you should be on a miata forum and passing your Boxster off to someone who can really appreciate it.

[litespeedp]

I'm for any light,tossible fun car with decent quality and driver involvement!

[Mark at Pelican Parts]

Originally Posted by litespeedp

I'm for any light,tossible fun car with decent quality and driver involvement!

Well stated and agree.

[Porsche9]

I actually went to test drive the new Miata the other day and was hopeful that at 6'4" that I'd fit. Real close, just short on the head room.

The prior generations it wasn't even close so this one is better and would take either getting the stock seat lowered or put in a different seat.

Some might still call it a girly car but I wouldn't care. I imagine on a tight roadcourse that this car would tear up quite a few "faster" cars. Giant killer. I recall another car company once being known for it's giant killer cars.

[Racer Boy]

Originally Posted by jdraupp

Sounds to me like you should be on a miata forum and passing your Boxster off to someone who can really appreciate it.

Well, I have a lot more experience with a Miata than a Boxster. So far, I like my Boxster, and expect to like it more once I rebuild the worn out suspension. But for me, I can tell that the Boxster isn't as much fun to drive as a Miata on the street.

The Miata is more responsive and gives so much more feedback at lower speeds than the Boxster. Obviously, the Boxster is faster in a straight line, and has better brakes stock. It's a much more refined car than a Miata. Maybe I'll find the Boxster more fun once I go to a track day. I'm not saying that the Boxster is a bad car - not at all!

And I'll admit to having a chip on my shoulder about what other people think of Miata's. You do get tired of all the "girls car" comments, and perceived arrogant attitudes from drivers of more expensive cars.

But I'm looking forward to enjoying my Boxster experience as time goes by!

[911monty]

Originally Posted by Racer Boy

And I'll admit to having a chip on my shoulder about what other people think of Miata's. You do get tired of all the "girls car" comments, and perceived arrogant attitudes from drivers of more expensive cars.

But I'm looking forward to enjoying my Boxster experience as time goes by!

Oh better tighten your suspenders then! Just wait until you get that attitude from fellow REAL PORSCHE drivers of the 911 and now even the Cayman crowd. I just went to a local PCA event and the first guy I run into says" Oh driving one of those!?! Most people have switched to the Cayman now !" Unbelievable.....:ah:

[Muskie]

Originally Posted by 911monty

Oh better tighten your suspenders then! Just wait until you get that attitude from fellow REAL PORSCHE drivers of the 911 and now even the Cayman crowd. I just went to a local PCA event and the first guy I run into says" Oh driving one of those!?! Most people have switched to the Cayman now !" Unbelievable.....:ah:

Well Put, Kind Of.

If you want to look down on the Miata please don't complain if your position in the P-car Hierarchy is pointed out, Lol.

Sports Car Guys are just that, Enthusiasts. Going out of your way to piss on the perceived "Lower Class" will garner nothing but resentment.

Stupid is as Stupid Does...................................:ah:

[Pdwight]

Originally Posted by Muskie

Well Put, Kind Of.

If you want to look down on the Miata please don't complain if your position in the P-car Hierarchy is pointed out, Lol.

Sports Car Guys are just that, Enthusiasts. Going out of your way to piss on the perceived "Lower Class" will garner nothing but resentment.

Stupid is as Stupid Does...................................:ah:

Well said in plain language

[Timco]

Originally Posted by Muskie

Well Put, Kind Of.

If you want to look down on the Miata please don't complain if your position in the P-car Hierarchy is pointed out, Lol.

Sports Car Guys are just that, Enthusiasts. Going out of your way to piss on the perceived "Lower Class" will garner nothing but resentment.

Stupid is as Stupid Does...................................:ah:

Well, Coreseller would know......

Maybe you should IM a few more members and cry about me......lol.

[thstone]

Originally Posted by 911monty

Oh better tighten your suspenders then! Just wait until you get that attitude from fellow REAL PORSCHE drivers of the 911 and now even the Cayman crowd. I just went to a local PCA event and the first guy I run into says" Oh driving one of those!?! Most people have switched to the Cayman now !"

911Monty is 100% correct. I get this attitude directed towards me all of the time.

But I very much enjoy showing up to the track in my Boxster and then kicking the crap out of the guys in Cayman's and 911's.

One day after repeatedly passing a 911 on the track, the guy comes over and asks if my car is an "S model with all the extra power"? I said no, its a base 2.5L.

He looks around and then asks what tires am I running? I say, same as you, Nitto NT-01.

Then he looks around and says, "Yeah, but I'm having problems putting all of my power down whereas you don't have that "power problem"".

Yeah dude, that's it; you have too much power and that's what makes my 200hp girly car faster.

[jdlmodelt]

Originally Posted by thstone

911Monty is 100% correct. I get this attitude directed towards me all of the time.

But I very much enjoy showing up to the track in my Boxster and then kicking the crap out of the guys in Cayman's and 911's.

One day after repeatedly passing a 911 on the track, the guy comes over and asks if my car is an "S model with all the extra power"? I said no, its a base 2.5L.

He looks around and then asks what tires am I running? I say, same as you, Nitto NT-01.

Then he looks around and says, "Yeah, but I'm having problems putting all of my power down whereas you don't have that "power problem"".

Yeah dude, that's it; you have too much power and that's what makes my 200hp girly car faster.

Nice. Keep kicking their "girly" cars around the track.

[steved0x]

Originally Posted by thstone

One day after repeatedly passing a 911 on the track, the guy comes over and asks if my car is an "S model with all the extra power"? I said no, its a base 2.5L.

He looks around and then asks what tires am I running? I say, same as you, Nitto NT-01.

Then he looks around and says, "Yeah, but I'm having problems putting all of my power down whereas you don't have that "power problem"".

Yeah dude, that's it; you have too much power and that's what makes my 200hp girly car faster.

Same conversation after my last autocross from an enthusiastic newbie with a new PDK Cayman after getting smoked by better drivers in miatas and frs/brz. He was limited at corner exit because he had too much power. His FB thread did not go the way he thought, but to his credit he changed his thought process after being schooled. He was legitimately looking for the reason why and that was what he landed on