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Old 05-18-2015, 04:54 PM   #1
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Shop manuals???!!!!

Some people's kids!!

So a very gracious member here shared a set of manuals. They were printed in 1998 so no 6-speed trans.

So I search for them. I find two or more that advertise 1998-2004 and one is 2000-2004. I buy one, then the other, and BOTH are printed in 1998-1999, and have zero revisions, and not my trans obviously.

I asked both how a manual printed in 1998 was supposed to cover 2004 parts as advertised??

Where can I find current ones?????

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factory shop manuals or the haynes ones ?
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Old 05-18-2015, 05:28 PM   #3
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Sooo....what's goin' on with all those extras?
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Related, have you looked into the PDF ones on eBay? Only 20-30 bucks...claim to be the same...tempting.
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haynes ones

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Old 05-18-2015, 06:43 PM   #6
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Related, have you looked into the PDF ones on eBay? Only 20-30 bucks...claim to be the same...tempting.
These are what I bought. Two.

They are real PDF shop manuals, but older. Both said printed in 1998 and 1999. Must be a ton of those around.

I'd like to buy the factory shop manuals that cover the 2004. The real ones. I have the Bentley and 101.
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The PDF ones are all circa 1999, I bought one for around $10 on DVD, then later found a free download of the same stuff. (no idea from where at this time)

It is useful, but as JFP in PA has said, it is missing all the updates.
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I know where to get the 1997-2004 Service Manual.
PM me if you want the link.
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670 pages, by the way
It should be a thirteen volume set:



And should have another volume of just updates if it is complete......
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It should be a thirteen volume set:



And should have another volume of just updates if it is complete......
I need PDF. I would have those smothered in grease in an hour!!

Maybe a clean room guy? Hey, Guy!! Look up torque on the Johnson rod!! NOW!!!
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Me no see nating, senor........
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Me no see nating, senor........
The link is for the Bentley manual, not the shop manuals.
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The link is for the Bentley manual, not the shop manuals.
I have that manual right here.

Thanks, though!
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I have been tempted to buy theses so-called 'Complete Sets' but without the updates they are not worth much. How would you know if all the updates and supplements are included ?
A wise man already said :"And should have another volume of just updates if it is complete......"
Now id anyone had a complete set of updates - that would be useful !
Or a pdf with all the updates.
Please note the EBay sellers never seem to know what updates(if any)are/are not included in their Listing.

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Timco find a 2005 -2008 shop set. It will be very close to your car over all. I used one to rebuild my engines as reference material because just like you found out the 2000 to 2004 are all wrong for a 2003 or 2004. If you cant find one PM me I have the PDF version.
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I have been tempted to buy theses so-called 'Complete Sets' but without the updates they are not worth much. How would you know if all the updates and supplements are included ?
A wise man already said :"And should have another volume of just updates if it is complete......"
Now id anyone had a complete set of updates - that would be useful !
Or a pdf with all the updates.
Please note the EBay sellers never seem to know what updates(if any)are/are not included in their Listing.
Back when these were in print, when you spent the $2300 for the 13 volumes, you were put on the update mailing list. There were a lot of updates for all of the manual sets, which is not unusual. My 996 set alone has over 100 separate updates.

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