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			I went for a spontaneous drive while the parents were away on their anniversary trip. 
A 100 mile round trip up over the eastern continental divide and back down.
 
I saw some amazing sights and enjoyed the drive. However while chugging through North Carolina, the car made a strange sound like something was dropped in the engine behind me. Zero smoke. Zero power. I pulled over and cut the engine.
 
The car has had on O2 sensor CEL for a while and developed a tick in the past week that we were planning to get checked out next week.
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2015, 12:35 PM
			
			
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			Someone managed to capture the IMS failure  on video during a drive. I believe the forum member was British. He said something like "was that my engine?". It sounded like rocks in a blender and lasted maybe 3 to 5 seconds. See if you can find that video on YouTube.  I  recall he said he had a rebuilt  engine installed soon after. Jake Raby posted that he would like to use the video for his classes.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			05-03-2015, 12:51 PM
			
			
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			Rocks in a blender, sounds about right. I have seen the video of an ims going out on the top gear track.  
 
Not sure what to about the car right now, just getting it sent back to South Carolina. I'm currently sitting on a porch with 70+ year old simply chatting with the best mountain backdrop ever. 
 
If the car did die, it died doing what it loved.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2015, 01:10 PM
			
			
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			Just made up my mind to bribe my Indy whatever he wants to get my IMS done before I get that back together.  
 
Before reading this, I was starting tomorrow to put it back together as is, and roll my dice. 
 
ETA, Jake, best of luck with this. Here's to a belt or something fixable. Good vibes from UT, man. 
 
ETA 2, I do not want to see any mention of any go fund me site!!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-03-2015, 01:12 PM
			
			
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			That's a good attitude Jake. what's done is done. No point stressing when that energy can be used to find a engine from a local wrecker, search online and get some math on paper so you can weigh your options.  Mewhile the mechanics can confirm the extent of the damage.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2015, 02:08 PM
			
			
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			Jake, I am in little Switzerland, an hour northwest of Asheville if I can help.  Got a trailer , lift and a lot of tools.  Bad news is I had ims failure a few years ago in my C4 and it sounded a lot like you described.  bob 828 385 3100
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2015, 02:25 PM
			
			
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			Oh no! Sorry to hear that jake. I got the link to that video somewhere but yeah mot good.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-03-2015, 02:36 PM
			
			
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			Sorry to hear that Jake.  Your reaction to this from shutting it down to your attitude after the fact are fantastic.  Kudos to Mountainman for the offer to help.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-03-2015, 02:36 PM
			
			
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			05-03-2015, 03:09 PM
			
			
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			Sorry to hear this! Could be a lot of things other than IMS but zero power is always worrisome.  
 
As our Boxster's age (in years and miles), there will be more and more engine issues coming to the forefront.  
 
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			05-03-2015, 03:16 PM
			
			
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			Thanks all for the nice words. The car is on a wrecker on its way to the dealer and I've made it back home. I got lost on the way. 
 
I ended up ontop of sassafras mountain, the highest point in South Carolina! 
  
This second photo is where the car died. 
 
And don't worry timco, no go fundme for this one.
 
I had 6k in my first boxster, insurance allowed me to an S, but in the end, the family only spent 6k which is not much more than what a roller goes for. 
 
We will see, hoping it was just a belt, it felt like the car lost power steering as I coasted to a stop.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2015, 03:20 PM
			
			
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Sadly this does sound comparable. The car was not under load. Simply cursing past some cyclist going 40 or so when it happened. Mine sounded like the video but stopped very quickly. As I depressed the clutch and scurried to the side of the road.
 
My first reaction was actually to check my waterbottle that was in the door pocket, as it had sounded as if something plastic had fallen. A sack of mostly empty water bottles or something.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-03-2015, 03:55 PM
			
			
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That video has fewer views than there are cars that have had their IMS replaced...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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and this is exactly why I am out. I truly enjoyed my Boxster for the year and a half I had it, but the thought of a torpedoed engine just wasn't fun anymore. The M96 power plant has far too many issues for my liking. 
to the OP, hope yours is something inconsequential. Best of luck!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-03-2015, 06:05 PM
			
			
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As our Boxster's age (in years and miles), there will be more and more engine issues coming to the forefront. 
  
			
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Well, more and more that failed to have the IMS done at any point during that time. 
 
Otherwise, same is true for any engine it seems.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-03-2015, 06:34 PM
			
			
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				and this is exactly why I am out. I truly enjoyed my Boxster for the year and a half I had it, but the thought of a torpedoed engine just wasn't fun anymore. The M96 power plant has far too many issues for my liking. 
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Same here, I loved the car, owned it 1 day short of a year.
 
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			05-03-2015, 06:44 PM
			
			
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			Jake - fingers crossed for you buddy! 
 
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			05-03-2015, 06:52 PM
			
			
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				and this is exactly why I am out. I truly enjoyed my Boxster for the year and a half I had it, but the thought of a torpedoed engine just wasn't fun anymore. The M96 power plant has far too many issues for my liking. 
			
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Pick your poison. Rebuild an air cooled engine every x number of miles at great cost... Or go water cooled and replace it whole every x number of miles? 
you can't really daily drive an air cooled car and not take a beating every time the odometer ticks up 10k miles. and you can't garage queen a water cooled and not take a beating on depreciation period.   
Do you come out ahead buying a water cooled Porsche cheap and doing the IMS, water pump every five years, etc. vs paying UP for an aircooled car if you're registering high miles on both? Porsches become money pits once you start driving them a lot and not just on a sunday afternoon to get ice cream cones.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			05-03-2015, 08:56 PM
			
			
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			Jake how many miles are on this car?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-03-2015, 09:35 PM
			
			
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			Hate to hear this for anyone..best of luck! 
Did you try to start the car after coasting to the side?  If so, what happened (other than not starting)?
		 
		
		
 
		
		
		
		
		
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