Newbie with some not so FAQs

[boostiality]

Lets see here...

-Ronzi
The car will see track time but it is never going to compete in anything due to the fact that it would be stuck in unlimited class (ala all out race cars) in any sanctioning body which this car certainly is not. Besides I dont think people buy or modify cars to make others happy, especially PCA or this collared shirt crowd you speak off.

-Dr. Kill
I wonder what people will be intrigued in more, the lopey v8 thats coming out of a stock looking boxster or the mullet sporting asian driver

-RandallNeighbour
I bet porsche never envisioned that 20 years after the 914, enthusiast would be putting all sorts of p-motors, v6s, v8s etc into a chassis and aswell as the transmission that were originally designated for less then 100hp all the while being VERY competetive in any of the sanctioning bodys This just goes show how overly engineered the cars are in the fact that even with the extra power the chassis took it like a champ. The funny thing was that the 914 was made over 30 years ago, so you can imagine just what the boxster chassis can do given the right circumstances.

-rdancd816
I hope I dont come off as some muscle car nut which I'm certainly not. Muscle cars have their place, just not in my garage and this porsche is not going to be in that sterotype either. What I want is an all around performer and not some drag car.

-Finallygottaporsche
The bang for the buck for both the c5 or any of the 911s is just not happening for me when compared to the ls1/boxster combo. The FD rx7 guys have been doing this and the same principal can be applied here. I dont see whats the point of spending more for a lesser car, especially here in socal where 911s and c5s are almost just as numerous as hondas/toyotas. What other mid engine rwd car, that will probably weigh lighter then the CGT, do you see thats as good as this platform for this price? As for working on them, its not like the things are easy to work on as they are now so I'll bite the bullet.


-olly986
On paper alone it looks like it wont drastically change the handling which is what I'm going for. Google the LS1 and you'll see what I mean. As for the emissions thing, the law here in cali states that you can use any motor aslong as its from a newer car along with its stock emissions devices. Someones already mated an LT1 to a boxster 5spd and the LS1 is basically about the same bolt pattern. I think he quoted somewhere under a grand to get it done (thats along with the clutch/pressure plate, etc )

[mach schnell]

I don't live to far from Pomona (yeah, I know, I'm not that excited about that fact either) - anyway, I passed by that area on the I-10 and believe it or not, saw an asian with a super tight mohawk/mullet driving a hot 78 Camaro with the back end jacked up atleast 4 feet. Ironic thing, it had a center exhaust and a Japatucky personalized license plate, wshiwasabox -

I think this whole thread is a scam by a schlitz drinking, luke duke loving Hemi hopper who's just trying to get a rise out of a bunch of guys who appreciate true automotive engineering and drive real cars!

[boostiality]

Originally Posted by mach schnell

I don't live to far from Pomona (yeah, I know, I'm not that excited about that fact either) - anyway, I passed by that area on the I-10 and believe it or not, saw an asian with a super tight mohawk/mullet driving a hot 78 Camaro with the back end jacked up atleast 4 feet. Ironic thing, it had a center exhaust and a Japatucky personalized license plate, wshiwasabox -

I think this whole thread is a scam by a schlitz drinking, luke duke loving Hemi hopper who's just trying to get a rise out of a bunch of guys who appreciate true automotive engineering and drive real cars!

Yeah well we cant all have fate smile upon us now can we? Your more then welcome to come see it when I have the appropraite funds to do it since your near. Besides, quote any one of my reponses where I got out of line inorder to get a rise out of people. Theres already enough sterotypes about boxster owners that I'm not even going to get into, so I would suggests not fueling them even more.

Btw, heres my recently sold 914


With matching Corvette 283

[986Jim]

I'm just not quite sure how an LS1 would fit. The motor and tras are quite long, I'm wondering how you would fit the rear end assembly in there as well. The drive shaft would be 3" long at best if it would all fit together. The boxster is basically like a FWD motor in the middle of the car, ie no rear end no drive shaft, just motor trans to a set of half shafts right out of the diff located inside the trans like a FWD car.

There really isn't much length to play with, I can see the motor and trans fitting in but the rear end would probablly touch the transmission not even allowing for a drive shaft to be fitted, there just isn't that much room for a long motor/rear end setup like that.

[Dr. Kill]

Why is everyone so down on this guy’s idea? No, it is not something that I would do, but I am all for innovation and creativity as long as it isn’t practiced on my car. It’s not like he voiced an opinion on concealed weapons carrying .

I don’t imagine the engine is going to be a perfect swap with no other mods required. This isn’t a two hour job, nor will it be cheap, but it can be done. Anything can be done.

This guy obviously has an interesting hobby and his own niche going on. He already did this successfully with a 914 and wants to take it to the next level of complexity, creativity, and performance.

Boostiality, you are breaking new ground here so it appears that there is little our forum can offer you in terms of direct experience with a similar project, but many of these guys (not me) do know quite a bit and will be able to provide you with great insight to specific challenges that you will face along the way.

Go for it man. Good luck, and please keep us posted.

[Brucelee]

I say go for it. I for one would love to be kept up to date on this.

Imagine an engine swap for the Box that doesn't cost $15G!

I have to admit that I like the fact that it will annoy the Porche intelligensia!

Imagine open the bonnet at a PCA meeting?


Hee hee!

[Finallygottaporsche]

post a pic of the mullet please

[chrisg]

Boostiality,
look what you started, you've opened up the 914club's box of motor swap debates !

Hell, unlike the teener, at least with the Box you don't have to mess with plumbing rads and you already have a tranny that can take some extra power.

[boostiality]

-986Jim

Hmm I think your looking at it the wrong way. I'm not trying to swap the t56 here along with the rear, its merely the motor alone. When we do it to the 914s, the only foreign thing that creates more length besides the motor is the adapter plate. which is only several inches. As for its orientation, the motor isnt horizontally mounted like the GSX, its just longitudinally mounted like say most of the worlds supercars. This is actually one of the big reasons why I like the chassis.

-Dr. Kill & BruceLee
I appreciate the support. I have alot of faith that it can be totally done under 10k actually. If you guys' want to check out some of the prices the Rx7/LS1 guys are paying for their swaps (also note we spend less b/c we're not going to buy and support the t56) check out www.hinsonsupercars.com. They even use the stock motor cradle, merely just modifying it with GM mounts and there you have it.

-Finallygottaporsche
Lol I dont have one now, but ironically I already did have the fau-hawk until recently

chrisg
Well great to see someone else with teener knowledge. And your right about the cooling part which just solves alot of headaches and would make the swap alot less complicated. If the 70s teener trannys can take basically 3x the amount of power and torque stock, I wonder what a late 90s boxster tranny can do

LS1 dimensions


Old SBC dimensions