03-29-2006, 08:32 PM
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"Can someone please tell me why you would put an American engine a PORSCHE? The 914 with the Volkswagen engine was one thing,it was not 100% true Porsche. Putting a v8 in a Boxster isn't what Porsche is about. Porsche has used smaller engines and created amazing out put out of them,they are the whores of engines. Why would you want to mess with that? Keep it in the family,put a 3.4 in there. If you put in the American engine you would also as well lose the Porsche whine,there is no substitute."
See thats the thing, I dont posses this brand loyalty thing at all..One thing to consider is that yes they are smaller displacement but I'm willing to bet the LS1 might almost weigh just the same, is way cheaper to mod and helluva alot more responsive and not to mention more reliable. I just dont see any advantages other then keeping the "purists" happy by swapping another p-motor in there that cost more in basically everything, isnt as responsive, etc etc. I'll let the purists have the whine, I like being dirty
"if joe dirt wants a LS1 or a 350 in his boxster, let him. who are you to tell him what he should park in front of his trailer home. .......i think i just used my first warning."
I'll tell you this, when I get it done I'll drive around in a mullet just to show ppl that you can redneck anything including a porsche even if you are asian
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03-29-2006, 08:35 PM
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i guess my post was more to entertain myself and not really to insult you. glad to see you have a sense of humor too.
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03-29-2006, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by boostiality
"See thats the thing, I dont posses this brand loyalty thing at all..One thing to consider is that yes they are smaller displacement but I'm willing to bet the LS1 might almost weigh just the same, is way cheaper to mod and helluva alot more responsive and not to mention more reliable. I just dont see any advantages other then keeping the "purists" happy by swapping another p-motor in there that cost more in basically everything, isnt as responsive, etc etc. I'll let the purists have the whine, I like being dirty 
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You saying the 3.4 engine is as responsive?
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03-30-2006, 04:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkwatt
You saying the 3.4 engine is as responsive?
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No see the bottom of the paragraph. I stated it its not as responsive.
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03-30-2006, 08:35 AM
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Sounds like an intruiging project. I wouldn't want to actually own one myself, but then what was the Cobra but a Brit roadster with a V8 stuffed in it.
Just don't expect to be welcomed with open arms by the PCA crowd. Or any crowd that wears collared shirts, for that matter.
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03-30-2006, 08:39 AM
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That would be a monster. I don't know which would be more impressive - the V8 Boxster or an Asian with a mullet. Either way, I support this project.
I remember seeing a company in Canada that shoved 5.0 V8s in Miatas. I can't imagine...
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03-30-2006, 10:02 AM
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This topic reminds me of a Car and Driver review of the then new supercharged MR2. They summed it up in one statement:
"Too much engine for its chassy"
Frankly, this only made me want to trade in my 1986 MR2 for it as soon as possible but the wife vetoed the idea as it came forth from my lips. I didn't even get to finish the thought!
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03-30-2006, 12:50 PM
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if u did actually fabricate all the parts to relocated things and connect things, then you would have to start a new business. people w blown p-engines would be your target.
still think its a stupid white trash idea
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03-30-2006, 01:11 PM
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I love this forum and I get a kick out of all the upgrades, mods, and design effects people attach to their Boxsters. In any case, I have driven a Mustang convertible for the past 4 years before I bought a "bargain" Porsche Boxster. It's a '97, great condition and an "every-day driver". My goal is to keep it completely stock, drive it conservatively (to a point) and hopefully recoup enough of my investment to move up to a newer Boxster in about 18 months. For us old guys who historically have been intrigued by "Muscle Cars" the Boxster is a real eye opener. The response, handling, and even the acceleration on a 2.5 is quite different from an American sportscar. This is a Classic vehicle. For those of us who drive the old ones, hang in there..they are still truly Porsche's and worthy of the nameplate. As Randall states, be prepared for expenses. But if the car was well maintained, documented, and passes a PPI, you can still get a lot of car for the money. I don't sweat the maintenance too much since my Box is paid for. Big advantage due to the age of the car when I purchased it. Stuff goes wrong on 9 year old sportscars..I am prepared to deal with it! The key thing is to preserve the Porsche mistique, reputation, and desireability. Hold up the resale values and unique magic that surrounds the namebrand. I have No regrets for buying an "old one!"
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03-30-2006, 01:26 PM
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What really interests me about this type of swap is the torque that a Ls1 would add to the Box. This low rpm, low speed umph is a dimension of the driving that the Box lacks.
Together with the LS1's light weight, I think the result would be stunning. Low speed grunt, top speed thrills.
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03-30-2006, 03:03 PM
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if i can remember a few years ago someone in germany had a bi motor boxster made, it could have been gemballa but i am not so sure!
as for the Cobra any one that i have seen, regardless of this wonderful V8 you are all drooling over was fairly crap, lots of speed in a straight line, when it manage to go, but forget about corners, one of our member as a beautiful silver car with blue pipes and tubes and all, it looks good but what a hip of ****************e on the road!
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03-30-2006, 03:09 PM
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If we are speaking about the original Cobra, we are talking about 1960s technology. Having said that, it was very very fast and handled very well FOR ITS TIME.
If we are talking the Cobra kit cars, we they are kit cars.
Nuff said.
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Originally Posted by olly986
if i can remember a few years ago someone in germany had a bi motor boxster made, it could have been gemballa but i am not so sure!
as for the Cobra any one that i have seen, regardless of this wonderful V8 you are all drooling over was fairly crap, lots of speed in a straight line, when it manage to go, but forget about corners, one of our member as a beautiful silver car with blue pipes and tubes and all, it looks good but what a hip of ****************e on the road!
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03-30-2006, 03:12 PM
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05-19-2009, 10:04 PM
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Small Block Chevy in a Boxster is a great idea
[QUOTE=boostiality]"Can someone please tell me why you would put an American engine a PORSCHE?
Yes. Torque. An LS7 has twice the HP, but three times the torque. Also, Boxster is a great, balanced car and having more power is just mo better. It's really that simple. Everytime you jab the accelerator you get a thrill.
Putting a v8 in a Boxster isn't what Porsche is about.
That's a very nice opinion, but tell me why you have that opinion.
Porsche has used smaller engines and created amazing out put out of them,they are the whores of engines.
What are the whores of engines? Chevys?
Keep it in the family,put a 3.4 in there.
Well, I have one in my Boxster. And yeah, it's nice, but...
I had a TPC supercharger on it - and it had a very nice V8 like push to it. But I wanted more. I put in the 3.4 (oh, I might add that the very NIGHT BEFORE I did the swap, I burned a hole in a piston in the 2.5). The supercharged car felt faster because of the low end torque (like how an early '70 Porsche 911T felt faster than the 911S ) but when you stand on it and shift at the redline, well, it is faster.
But 427 aluminum block V8? Whoah Black Betty Bam-a-lam!
If you put in the American engine you would also as well lose the Porsche whine, there is no substitute.
You really need to make a good point here. Maybe something about weight. Becuase instead of a nice shredding whine (and my 3.4 with some aftermarket exhaust/headers sounds pretty great) - bu tthe V8 would give you a nice rumbling growl. I grew in the San Fernando Valley. I've always been into sports cards, but some of my buddies had hot rods with all manners of v8s.
"There is no substitute". Well there's another saying, there's no replacement for displacement.
See thats the thing, I dont posses this brand loyalty thing at all...
It really sounds like you do. I don't. I pays me money, I get what I want. I am no purist, but I am a pig for power.
"if joe dirt wants a LS1 or a 350 in his boxster, let him. who are you to tell him what he should park in front of his trailer home. .......i think i just used my first warning." I'll tell you this, when I get it done I'll drive around in a mullet just to show ppl that you can redneck anything including a porsche even if you are asian  [/
Joe Dirt? Mullet? Like I'm unsophisticated because I like SBC in a Boxster? Buddy boy - I've got a cellar full of aging Bordeaux. You might prefer a grenace, or a chianti or something, but I like muscle. And finesse.
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05-20-2009, 03:19 AM
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I hope that you suceed in your adventure. It is because of people like you that allowed a High Performance 289 to be regularly put into an MGB. When the suspension was slightly tuned it was a monster. It was with great pleasure that I used to embarris just about anything that tried to play. Good Luck. The world needs people like you. Ed
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05-20-2009, 07:50 AM
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Man, I would love to see you do this. My other car is an LS1 car, and that is one incredible engine. Though the Boxster sounds cool, it doesn't sound anywhere near as cool as an LS1 (even with the quiet exhaust I've got). The thing would be a beast!
Have you considered whether or not the chassis is strong enough to take all that torque?
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