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boostiality · 03-29-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ephidaboost

This would be awesome, seems like I have seen a v8 swap done to everything except the boxster. But Id really be suprised if this could be done without major modifications to the chassis. length wise you are very limited... pop the service cover on one and take some measurements... the flat 6 is literally crammed into the car.

Lets hope not, but there probably will have to be some massaging done to get her in there. With the 914s for space, some folks have resorted to banging the firewall a bit to just clear the belt assembly as well as moving the tranny back a few inches. I guess its time to start visiting dealerships with a ruler and tape.

Brucelee · 03-29-2006, 08:01 PM

The LS1 is very light and with the FI, fairly low. I think you could get that bad boy n there.

350HP and 375 Ft lbs of torque-2002 spec.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Brucelee · 03-29-2006, 08:02 PM

The LS1 fits in the 944 and the 911.

See renegade hybrids.com

blinkwatt · 03-29-2006, 08:54 PM

Can someone please tell me why you would put an American engine a PORSCHE? The 914 with the Volkswagen engine was one thing,it was not 100% true Porsche. Putting a v8 in a Boxster isn't what Porsche is about. Porsche has used smaller engines and created amazing out put out of them,they are the whores of engines. Why would you want to mess with that? Keep it in the family,put a 3.4 in there. If you put in the American engine you would also as well lose the Porsche whine,there is no substitute.

Finallygottaporsche · 03-29-2006, 09:02 PM

if joe dirt wants a LS1 or a 350 in his boxster, let him. who are you to tell him what he should park in front of his trailer home. .......i think i just used my first warning.

RandallNeighbour · 03-29-2006, 09:27 PM

Oh you are in such big trouble now...

boostiality · 03-29-2006, 09:32 PM

"Can someone please tell me why you would put an American engine a PORSCHE? The 914 with the Volkswagen engine was one thing,it was not 100% true Porsche. Putting a v8 in a Boxster isn't what Porsche is about. Porsche has used smaller engines and created amazing out put out of them,they are the whores of engines. Why would you want to mess with that? Keep it in the family,put a 3.4 in there. If you put in the American engine you would also as well lose the Porsche whine,there is no substitute."

See thats the thing, I dont posses this brand loyalty thing at all..One thing to consider is that yes they are smaller displacement but I'm willing to bet the LS1 might almost weigh just the same, is way cheaper to mod and helluva alot more responsive and not to mention more reliable. I just dont see any advantages other then keeping the "purists" happy by swapping another p-motor in there that cost more in basically everything, isnt as responsive, etc etc. I'll let the purists have the whine, I like being dirty

"if joe dirt wants a LS1 or a 350 in his boxster, let him. who are you to tell him what he should park in front of his trailer home. .......i think i just used my first warning."

I'll tell you this, when I get it done I'll drive around in a mullet just to show ppl that you can redneck anything including a porsche even if you are asian

Finallygottaporsche · 03-29-2006, 09:35 PM

i guess my post was more to entertain myself and not really to insult you. glad to see you have a sense of humor too.

blinkwatt · 03-29-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boostiality

"See thats the thing, I dont posses this brand loyalty thing at all..One thing to consider is that yes they are smaller displacement but I'm willing to bet the LS1 might almost weigh just the same, is way cheaper to mod and helluva alot more responsive and not to mention more reliable. I just dont see any advantages other then keeping the "purists" happy by swapping another p-motor in there that cost more in basically everything, isnt as responsive, etc etc. I'll let the purists have the whine, I like being dirty

You saying the 3.4 engine is as responsive?

BigBoxster · 05-19-2009, 11:04 PM

[QUOTE=boostiality]"Can someone please tell me why you would put an American engine a PORSCHE?

Yes. Torque. An LS7 has twice the HP, but three times the torque. Also, Boxster is a great, balanced car and having more power is just mo better. It's really that simple. Everytime you jab the accelerator you get a thrill.

Putting a v8 in a Boxster isn't what Porsche is about.

That's a very nice opinion, but tell me why you have that opinion.

Porsche has used smaller engines and created amazing out put out of them,they are the whores of engines.

What are the whores of engines? Chevys?

Keep it in the family,put a 3.4 in there.

Well, I have one in my Boxster. And yeah, it's nice, but...

I had a TPC supercharger on it - and it had a very nice V8 like push to it. But I wanted more. I put in the 3.4 (oh, I might add that the very NIGHT BEFORE I did the swap, I burned a hole in a piston in the 2.5). The supercharged car felt faster because of the low end torque (like how an early '70 Porsche 911T felt faster than the 911S ) but when you stand on it and shift at the redline, well, it is faster.

But 427 aluminum block V8? Whoah Black Betty Bam-a-lam!

If you put in the American engine you would also as well lose the Porsche whine, there is no substitute.

You really need to make a good point here. Maybe something about weight. Becuase instead of a nice shredding whine (and my 3.4 with some aftermarket exhaust/headers sounds pretty great) - bu tthe V8 would give you a nice rumbling growl. I grew in the San Fernando Valley. I've always been into sports cards, but some of my buddies had hot rods with all manners of v8s.

"There is no substitute". Well there's another saying, there's no replacement for displacement.

See thats the thing, I dont posses this brand loyalty thing at all...

It really sounds like you do. I don't. I pays me money, I get what I want. I am no purist, but I am a pig for power.

"if joe dirt wants a LS1 or a 350 in his boxster, let him. who are you to tell him what he should park in front of his trailer home. .......i think i just used my first warning." I'll tell you this, when I get it done I'll drive around in a mullet just to show ppl that you can redneck anything including a porsche even if you are asian

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Joe Dirt? Mullet? Like I'm unsophisticated because I like SBC in a Boxster? Buddy boy - I've got a cellar full of aging Bordeaux. You might prefer a grenace, or a chianti or something, but I like muscle. And finesse.

Brucelee · 03-30-2006, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by blinkwatt

Can someone please tell me why you would put an American engine a PORSCHE? The 914 with the Volkswagen engine was one thing,it was not 100% true Porsche. Putting a v8 in a Boxster isn't what Porsche is about. Porsche has used smaller engines and created amazing out put out of them,they are the whores of engines. Why would you want to mess with that? Keep it in the family,put a 3.4 in there. If you put in the American engine you would also as well lose the Porsche whine,there is no substitute.

Sorry, but IMHO, the ls1 and the ls2 is simply a much better engine that any normally aspirated Porsche now being produced. Cheaper, more power, more topque, more durable, on and on.

Bring the conversion kit on, I am ready!

boostiality · 03-29-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brucelee

The LS1 is very light and with the FI, fairly low. I think you could get that bad boy n there.

350HP and 375 Ft lbs of torque-2002 spec.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Thats exactly what I'm talkin about

. Mid engine, rwd, under 3000lbs with that kinda power = goodbye 997. I wonder what it would be like with a proper heads and cam combo at around 450rwhp

Oh yeah I know about renegade. Its just the 986 platform has everything better to offer. Well maybe not engine bay space but cant win them all.

boostiality · 03-30-2006, 09:30 PM

Lets see here...

-Ronzi
The car will see track time but it is never going to compete in anything due to the fact that it would be stuck in unlimited class (ala all out race cars) in any sanctioning body which this car certainly is not. Besides I dont think people buy or modify cars to make others happy, especially PCA or this collared shirt crowd you speak off.

-Dr. Kill
I wonder what people will be intrigued in more, the lopey v8 thats coming out of a stock looking boxster or the mullet sporting asian driver

-RandallNeighbour
I bet porsche never envisioned that 20 years after the 914, enthusiast would be putting all sorts of p-motors, v6s, v8s etc into a chassis and aswell as the transmission that were originally designated for less then 100hp all the while being VERY competetive in any of the sanctioning bodys This just goes show how overly engineered the cars are in the fact that even with the extra power the chassis took it like a champ. The funny thing was that the 914 was made over 30 years ago, so you can imagine just what the boxster chassis can do given the right circumstances.

-rdancd816
I hope I dont come off as some muscle car nut which I'm certainly not. Muscle cars have their place, just not in my garage and this porsche is not going to be in that sterotype either. What I want is an all around performer and not some drag car.

-Finallygottaporsche
The bang for the buck for both the c5 or any of the 911s is just not happening for me when compared to the ls1/boxster combo. The FD rx7 guys have been doing this and the same principal can be applied here. I dont see whats the point of spending more for a lesser car, especially here in socal where 911s and c5s are almost just as numerous as hondas/toyotas. What other mid engine rwd car, that will probably weigh lighter then the CGT, do you see thats as good as this platform for this price? As for working on them, its not like the things are easy to work on as they are now so I'll bite the bullet.

-olly986
On paper alone it looks like it wont drastically change the handling which is what I'm going for. Google the LS1 and you'll see what I mean. As for the emissions thing, the law here in cali states that you can use any motor aslong as its from a newer car along with its stock emissions devices. Someones already mated an LT1 to a boxster 5spd and the LS1 is basically about the same bolt pattern. I think he quoted somewhere under a grand to get it done (thats along with the clutch/pressure plate, etc )

mach schnell · 03-30-2006, 10:21 PM

I don't live to far from Pomona

(yeah, I know, I'm not that excited about that fact either) - anyway, I passed by that area on the I-10 and believe it or not, saw an asian with a super tight mohawk/mullet driving a hot 78 Camaro with the back end jacked up atleast 4 feet. Ironic thing, it had a center exhaust and a Japatucky personalized license plate, wshiwasabox -

I think this whole thread is a scam by a schlitz drinking, luke duke loving Hemi hopper who's just trying to get a rise out of a bunch of guys who appreciate true automotive engineering and drive real cars!

boostiality · 03-31-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mach schnell

I don't live to far from Pomona

(yeah, I know, I'm not that excited about that fact either) - anyway, I passed by that area on the I-10 and believe it or not, saw an asian with a super tight mohawk/mullet driving a hot 78 Camaro with the back end jacked up atleast 4 feet. Ironic thing, it had a center exhaust and a Japatucky personalized license plate, wshiwasabox -

I think this whole thread is a scam by a schlitz drinking, luke duke loving Hemi hopper who's just trying to get a rise out of a bunch of guys who appreciate true automotive engineering and drive real cars!

Yeah well we cant all have fate smile upon us now can we? Your more then welcome to come see it when I have the appropraite funds to do it since your near. Besides, quote any one of my reponses where I got out of line inorder to get a rise out of people. Theres already enough sterotypes about boxster owners that I'm not even going to get into, so I would suggests not fueling them even more.

Btw, heres my recently sold 914

With matching Corvette 283

986Jim · 03-31-2006, 04:53 AM

I'm just not quite sure how an LS1 would fit. The motor and tras are quite long, I'm wondering how you would fit the rear end assembly in there as well. The drive shaft would be 3" long at best if it would all fit together. The boxster is basically like a FWD motor in the middle of the car, ie no rear end no drive shaft, just motor trans to a set of half shafts right out of the diff located inside the trans like a FWD car.

There really isn't much length to play with, I can see the motor and trans fitting in but the rear end would probablly touch the transmission not even allowing for a drive shaft to be fitted, there just isn't that much room for a long motor/rear end setup like that.