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jacabean 11-29-2014 02:00 PM

996 getting close to 986 prices ?
 
this car is for sale down the street from me . i decided to stop in and take a look . as i already own a 996 i was curious. this car was in really good condition and has some really nice options . The wood is gross but overall a nice car . you could probably get this car for 18k that is real close to 986S prices . Curious to know what others up here think about low priced 996s ? 2001 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA COUPE , 74K MILES, 6-SPD, MUST SEE!!!!

woodsman 11-29-2014 02:12 PM

it's like the roof falling down in a house fire...

NewArt 11-29-2014 02:17 PM

Looks nice although I could do without the funky wing (just personal taste, looks like a Subaru). You're right, the faux wood is gross! I'd say it is still 5K more than a same year 986S, and the motor is in the wrong place! :rolleyes:

Bfan 11-29-2014 02:31 PM

I say one hell of a deal considering the GT3 body kit. But I agree, the wood is gross

BIGJake111 11-29-2014 03:00 PM

A fair amount of 98 and 99 911s have been listed for a few under 20 latly, which is comparable with 03 and 04 boxsters base or S. It'll make the buying process tough for some. Do you want the bigger power and the "worst 911" or a great mid engine roadster with polarizing styling and a "lack of power."

As an aside most affordable 996s I have seen have been cabriolets.

TeamOxford 11-29-2014 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 426701)
A fair amount of 98 and 99 911s have been listed for a few under 20 latly, which is comparable with 03 and 04 boxsters base or S. It'll make the buying process tough for some. Do you want the bigger power and the "worst 911" or a great mid engine roadster with polarizing styling and a "lack of power."

As an aside most affordable 996s I have seen have been cabriolets.

If you see a '98 for under $20K, scoop it up. It was the last year of the 993s.

TO

BIGJake111 11-29-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 426703)
If you see a '98 for under $20K, scoop it up. It was the last year of the 993s.



TO


I must be mistaken, the car was a 996, must've been a 99, I know for a fact the car was a 90s model though.

BIGJake111 11-29-2014 03:32 PM

http://m.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=385007167&numRecord s=5&firstRecord=6&zip=29673&searchType=both

Prime example of a nice car, one thing I have noticed with these cheap 911s is that they have fairly low miles, there are a decent amount of 120k plus boxsters but few 911s with over 90k miles.

Joe B 11-29-2014 03:35 PM

I agree about the wood. That spoiler is gross too! I wouldn't mind having the back seats so my wife could come along when my dog and I go for a ride.

Joe B 11-29-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 426701)
latly

Latly :confused:?

;)

jdraupp 11-29-2014 03:56 PM

Jake, the Boxster came in 97, but the 996 didn't show up until 99. A 98 boxster for 20,000 would be like investing in apple for 3 bucks a share.

RedTele58 11-29-2014 06:12 PM

That is a hella nice 996. Lots of options and good miles. It was probably a $100k+ sticker car when new. The aerokit by itself adds $10k to the car. For you guys that don't know, that aerokit w/ the taco spoiler is the body kit that was on the first year GT3 that was introduced in Europe.

There is nothing wrong with the 996. They have fantastic performance and their reliability and potential maintenance problems are the same as the Boxster. If you love your Boxster, you will love a 996.

I own a '99 996 with the aerokit. I paid $19,300 for mine w/ 85k miles. It was/is worth every penny and then some.

Rick

JayG 11-29-2014 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 426701)
A fair amount of 98 and 99 911s have been listed for a few under 20 latly, which is comparable with 03 and 04 boxsters base or S. It'll make the buying process tough for some. Do you want the bigger power and the "worst 911" or a great mid engine roadster with polarizing styling and a "lack of power."

As an aside most affordable 996s I have seen have been cabriolets.

The worst 911??? Where do you get that from? The 996 is a great car and when it was new it was ground breaking in technology and performance.
Have you ever driven one?
If the 996 is the worst 911, then the 986 is the worst Boxster as well....
Don't buy into the negative hype, if so I guess you like driving the cheap hair dresser Porsche

I think the wood is a factory option,not aftermarket
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. YMMV

I have seen 996 (non-roller) listed for as low as $12k

BIGJake111 11-29-2014 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG (Post 426712)
The worst 911??? Where do you get that from? The 996 is a great car and when it was new it was ground breaking in technology and performance.

Have you ever driven one?

If the 996 is the worst 911, then the 986 is the worst Boxster as well....

Don't buy into the negative hype, if so I guess you like driving the cheap hair dresser Porsche



I think the wood is a factory option,not aftermarket

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. YMMV



I have seen 996 (non-roller) listed for as low as $12k


I love the 996 hence why I put worst in quotations. The car is perceived styling wise as the ugly duckling, but this allows great performance to be bought for a great possibly unmatched price, I can't think of many cars with comparable performance and prestige to the 911 available under 20k.

I have never seen any for anything like 12k, it'd be hard for me not to upgrade to a 911 if one comes by for that price.

RedTele58 11-29-2014 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 426714)
I have never seen any for anything like 12k, it'd be hard for me not to upgrade to a 911 if one comes by for that price.

I think Tom paid that or less for his 996 and it's a very nice car. They are out there. There's a 996 Cabriolet in Wichita Ks for $14 that looks like a nice ride.

I'm seeing Boxsters in the $4-6k range...

TeamOxford 11-29-2014 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG (Post 426712)
The worst 911??? Where do you get that from? The 996 is a great car and when it was new it was ground breaking in technology and performance.

Agreed. The early 996 models get no respect, just like the 914 and 924 when they were first introduced.

A clean '99-'01 model with an IMSB upgrade can be a fine example of a 911.

TO

Pdwight 11-29-2014 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacabean (Post 426692)
this car is for sale down the street from me . i decided to stop in and take a look . as i already own a 996 i was curious. this car was in really good condition and has some really nice options . The wood is gross but overall a nice car . you could probably get this car for 18k that is real close to 986S prices . Curious to know what others up here think about low priced 996s ? 2001 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA COUPE , 74K MILES, 6-SPD, MUST SEE!!!!

Not a bad looking car....except that spoiler is hideous .....If I had it that would have to go

thstone 11-29-2014 07:01 PM

Hey, let's not forget this $10K 996 - its still parked in my driveway. Very low priced 996's are out there; you just have to look a little harder and show up with a stack of cash. :)

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/44227-986-wrecked-got-996-today.html

JayG 11-29-2014 08:32 PM

Dont get me wrong, I LOVE my Boxster, but this ain't no ugly duckling and my wife loves it, as well as it being a blast to drive


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1417325357.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1417325528.jpg

particlewave 11-29-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thstone (Post 426722)
Hey, let's not forget this $10K 996 - its still parked in my driveway. Very low priced 996's are out there; you just have to look a little harder and show up with a stack of cash. :)

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/44227-986-wrecked-got-996-today.html

I was going to mention your $10k find...amazing!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdwight (Post 426720)
Not a bad looking car....except that spoiler is hideous .....If I had it that would have to go

Respect The Taco!

j.fro 11-30-2014 03:22 AM

I Picked up my 996 almost two years ago. 1999 Carrera 4, 6sp, 50k for $18000. It's everything my 986 isn't: all-wheel drive, bone stock, both my wife and the dog love it!
It sometimes seems 996/986 prices are going up!
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1417350064.jpg

BIGJake111 11-30-2014 04:37 AM

996 getting close to 986 prices ?
 
My assumption is that while fairly stagnate, the Boxster has already bottomed out and people are asking for a little bit more than they did a year or two ago, while 996s are just now bottoming out.

With word of turbos, 4 cylinders, and electric drive in the future, water cooled 6 cylinder porsches are about to be the second chapter for porsche with the first pages of the third chapter already visible in the e hybrids and now turbo GTS cayanne as well as the 919, if history repeats itself porsches latest and greatest is usually off of last years race car. Notice the comparison of the 996 gt3 and gt2 with the gt1 racecar.

Of course many of these watercooled porsches were mass produced so they are are not big collectables, but the watercooled era particularly the fore runners can likely expect to stop dropping in price at the least, the 996 is essentially bottomed out or at least will be soon, so if you want one, by my inept 17 year old analysis, now would be the time to buy.a

itsnotanova 11-30-2014 05:24 AM

I kind of dig the wood trim. Maybe because it's not something you see every day.

I attempt to buy Porsches on a daily basis and I think the prices have gone up on all Porsches. There's always a mark up in price when the word "Porsche" is on something. I have a theory that the aircooled bubble is sucking all the other models up with it too.

jacabean 11-30-2014 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsnotanova (Post 426754)
I kind of dig the wood trim. Maybe because it's not something you see every day.

I attempt to buy Porsches on a daily basis and I think the prices have gone up on all Porsches. There's always a mark up in price when the word "Porsche" is on something. I have a theory that the aircooled bubble is sucking all the other models up with it too.

I wonder what the cost of that wood was back in the day ? Prices in my region seem to be dropping . The above mentioned car would have been around 25k two years ago .

ChrisZang 11-30-2014 06:41 AM

In my neck of the woods even 2002/3 996 are now in the lower $20k range

LagerAle 11-30-2014 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 426701)
A fair amount of 98 and 99 911s have been listed for a few under 20 latly, which is comparable with 03 and 04 boxsters base or S. It'll make the buying process tough for some. Do you want the bigger power and the "worst 911" or a great mid engine roadster with polarizing styling and a "lack of power."

As an aside most affordable 996s I have seen have been cabriolets.

Is there a posting contest that i am unaware of? So many, so little substance...

cfos 11-30-2014 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LagerAle (Post 426762)
Is there a posting contest that i am unaware of? So many, so little substance...

Interesting observation. But, to answer you question, no; I think you are among the newer (and more restrained) members (posters). Most others have adapted to Jake and either find humor, reminisce about their own lost youth, or ignore it/him/me. Personally, I'm still wondering about his thread on the Boxster being the best track car. Can't think of a thread where he ever said he's been on the track or an autocross from which to develop an opinion, yet opinions are free and, from what I've learned, you can't teach a new dog anything - I've tried. Jake is quite young and I think they now learn l33t in kindergarden instead of cursive in elementary. :o:o

http://www.currybet.net/images/blog2..._your_base.png

BIGJake111 11-30-2014 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfos (Post 426767)
Interesting observation. But, to answer you question, no; I think you are among the newer (and more restrained) members (posters). Most others have adapted to Jake and either find humor, reminisce about their own lost youth, or ignore it/him/me. Personally, I'm still wondering about his thread on the Boxster being the best track car. Can't think of a thread where he ever said he's been on the track or an autocross from which to develop an opinion, yet opinions are free and, from what I've learned, you can't teach a new dog anything - I've tried. Jake is quite young and I think they now learn l33t in kindergarden instead of cursive in elementary. :o:o

http://www.currybet.net/images/blog2..._your_base.png


Did you ever read the thread about it being a track car, I simply posted a link for others to read, I have absolutely never had track experience but am looking forward to it sometime soon.

cfos 11-30-2014 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 426771)
Did you ever read the thread about it being a track car, I simply posted a link for others to read, I have absolutely never had track experience but am looking forward to it sometime soon.

Really?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 426042)
I've gotta say if your giving yourself a 15 margin you could get a much cleaner and track ready boxster within the margin; as for my opinion on the other vehicles, I vote neigh on the Mazda 3, that FWD stuff is blasphemy, and the triumph would make a good project car but likely not track car.

I guess you're right. You have no opinion(s) about what would make a "good" track car -- see I even used quotes like you did. :rolleyes:

cfos 11-30-2014 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 426771)
Did you ever read the thread about it being a track car, I simply posted a link for others to read, I have absolutely never had track experience but am looking forward to it sometime soon.

And since I have some time as I finish my coffee, a little constructive criticism:

"Did you ever read the thread about it being a track car,..."

Ok -- this sounds like a question, so you want to use a "?" instead of a ",". Also, "even" would be a better choice than "ever" -- I think what you are going for is a little bit of angst and/or frustration rather than "ever" which implies something else.

"..., I simple posted a link for others to read,... " This is an independent clause and can stand by itself. However, I would like to state that this is not true as you also posted opinions in the thread.

"... absolutely never..." I, and many others, know what "never" means. I don't think you need to qualify never with "absolutely", but to each their own.

particlewave 11-30-2014 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfos (Post 426767)
Interesting observation. But, to answer you question, no; I think you are among the newer (and more restrained) members (posters). Most others have adapted to Jake and either find humor, reminisce about their own lost youth, or ignore it/him/me. Personally, I'm still wondering about his thread on the Boxster being the best track car. Can't think of a thread where he ever said he's been on the track or an autocross from which to develop an opinion, yet opinions are free and, from what I've learned, you can't teach a new dog anything - I've tried. Jake is quite young and I think they now learn l33t in kindergarden instead of cursive in elementary. :o:o

Your obsession with Jake is...odd.

cfos 11-30-2014 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 426777)
Your obsession with Jake is...odd.

You call it an obsession, I call it a hobby. Would you rather I spend time wondering why you've chosen to put "potato" in your name/avatar? I mean you put it there for a reason, right? Are you trying to be funny? What is it about the potato that perks your interest? Does it have something to do with Dan Quayle and tomato?

Oh, before I forget, how was that time you spent hanging with Danger in the nether? Remember? You said something about an absence with your 2000th post - how did that work out for you? What was it like? Was it potato-rific? Inquiring minds want to know! :)

particlewave 11-30-2014 08:30 AM

There's nothing bad about a potato ;)

You catch more flies with honey...

cfos 11-30-2014 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonichristi (Post 426783)
Old men that make teenage boys their hobby usually go to prison.
Step away from the keyboard and find a real hobby or address your homosexual pedephile desires.

Interesting diagnosis. A little bit of projection, wouldn't you say? Why so protective? Jake has always held up to my (and others) comments, right? Why do you feel the need to protect him? Also what's with the pedophile charges? Really? You know me so well? You know my age? I have to say that's a bit harsh, but I guess we all know where your head is at, don't we? :o

If you do the research, I also respond to PL's posts with the same vigor. Difference, of course, is our respective opinions on a great many things differ, and PL knows how to use the English language. In fact, I'm not sure anyone noticed, but a historical event occurred recently - PL said he liked the fried egg lights - which to my recollection is the first time this occured on the 986 forum. I haven't quite figured out a proper way to recognize this historic event. Has anyone else?


Edit: oh, never mind Toni, I did a bit of research. Nothing will be gained from our continued conversations - you are far too worldly for the likes of me. Surprised you condescended to posting to me. Also, surprised that you request the proper use of English.... Except, I guess, when it comes to Jake where you obviously have a soft spot. Kinda creepy, if you ask me. I guess I prefer to treat each equally without the favoritism. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonichristi (Post 419107)
Your point is moot. I was speaking of the fact that LEOs are not all angels and wanting to protect yourself is not paranoia. Obviously.
There are plenty of cases of police misbehaving during traffic stops.


MarkT - I am far from new. Though my current account reflects 15 months of membership, I have been posting on the forums for years (had to start a new account after a hiatus and forgotten password/defunct email address).
I am all too familiar with JFP, don't like him and give respect to those deserving of it. That guy is nothing more than a Durametric peddler.

"The guy that knows more about these cars than the rest of us put together?" Ha! What a joke. Sure, that applies if what you're asking about has to do with a diagnosis tool.
Would you like some lube to make the job easier? How do you type with yours in one hand and his in the other? ;)

"An long-time member"? Who's the moron? Use proper English, please. :)


BIGJake111 11-30-2014 09:18 AM

Darn, this topic was interesting and now it's another jake thread, let me get the popcorn. I used ever instead of even as I found even to be disrespectful. Yes I posted opinions but the point of the post the link, "not hey everyone I think the boxster is best track car look at this link that agrees."

Anyways back to your pedophiliac accusations, I mean you know what they say about men that drive convertibles ;).

My personal diagnosis would be that cfos secretly sees a bit of himself in me.

kjc2050 11-30-2014 09:48 AM

No pun intended!

particlewave 11-30-2014 10:18 AM

I have to admit that I've been looking at 996's. The problem is trying to justify a second toy.
I'm not getting rid of the Boxster! :D

Ckrikos 11-30-2014 10:22 AM

Looks like a great car. I want a base 996 but my wife would kill me if I bought a second porsche and not a bigger house.

Jake Raby 11-30-2014 11:34 AM

But all the cars still cost the same to repair... I see people;e all the time that can afford to buy these cars, but they cannot afford to own them.

Approach with great care and understand that the cars are no cheaper to own than they were when they had tens of thousands of dollars higher selling prices. Honestly, today the cars are more expensive to own then they used to be.

Go in with both eyes open; expect the worst and always be prepared for it, while hoping for the best. Low mileage doesn't help, either.

thstone 11-30-2014 12:14 PM

Buying a low priced 996 is a great first experience in 911 ownership. And as a Boxster owner (or previous Boxster owner) you will already know 90% of what you need to know about the car and the financial commitment to ownership.

With that being said, I am seriously thinking of selling my 996. I have nothing bad to say about the car; 996's are an incredible deal right now and you'll never find another car with that level of performance, luxury, and panache for under $20K anywhere.

But now that I own the 78 911SC, I'd rather drive that car most of the time and the 996 is gathering a lot of dust...


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