war on neighbors cat

[Ebell914]

Wow, you really think the cat will damage your car? You apparently have never had a cat.

[TypeA]

Originally Posted by Ebell914

Wow, you really think the cat will damage your car? You apparently have never had a cat.

I have had cats with dirty paws scratch my paint (either with the dirt or with their claws) in their scramble to remove themselves from my vehicle (or in the act of climbing up or down). So, yes, yes indeed they can damage your car. To say nothing of the nuisance...youve obviously never had fur and dirty cat prints from one end of your clean car to another. If you had, you would know that these dirt trails do not just simply rinse off. No, they must be washed off. A far as Im concerned, that dirt trail is damage. BTW there is also the potential that they will use a covered car as a scratching post, damaging your car cover.

[JayG]

Originally Posted by TypeA

I have had cats with dirty paws scratch my paint (either with the dirt or with their claws) in their scramble to remove themselves from my vehicle. So, yes, yes indeed they can damage your car. To say nothing of the nuisance...youve obviously never had fur and dirty cat prints from one end of your clean car to another. If you had, you would know that these dirt trails do not just simply rinse off, they must be washed off.

First of all, I have dogs and cats

The is no way in hell a cats claws will scratch the paint on your car, they simply are not hard enough
And yes, I have had one of my cats climb on my car after I have washed it. No big deal. Bird poop is far worse. Just use a quick spurt of detailer and any paw prints are gone.
In fact, the prints you leave from touching or leaning on the car are far worse. You leave oils and other things from your skin that are in fact corrosive to the paint

Shooting a cat is just plain cruel and stupid. You don't deserve to own a Porsche.
How about I shoot your dumb ass with BB gun or zap you with an ignition coils and see how you like it .

[TypeA]

Originally Posted by JayG

First of all, I have dogs and cats

The is no way in hell a cats claws will scratch the paint on your car, they simply are not hard enough
And yes, I have had one of my cats climb on my car at I have washed it. No big deal. Bird poop is far worse. Just use a quick spurt of detailer and any paw prints are gone.
In fact, the prints you leave from touching or leaning on the car are far worse. You leave oils and other things from your skin that are in fact corrosive to the paint

Shooting a cat is just plain cruel and stupid. You don't deserve to own a Porsche.
How about I shoot your dumb ass with BB gun or zap you with an ignition coils and see how you like it .

Im sure theyre the pride of the neighborhood.

Ive had it happen to me. So yeah we disagree. A cat can easily scratch paint, especially with dirty paws.

I own a cat too, have for many years. But heres the catch: MY cat has never trespassed or dug up someones flowerbed. He has never left a coiled pile on the lawn for the next time someone mows, or chased off wildlife by hunting game. Why? Because I am an urban dweller who posses the intelligence and maturity to keep my cat indoors! It is owners (and those who support them) who are "cruel and stupid" for letting their animals roam free and violate other's rights. Want an outdoor cat? Buy yourself a plot of land where I wont catch your cat on my Porsche. Cause otherwise, if Im your neighbor, your cat violating my rights makes him free game sir. I dont have the time to trap and take him to the pound but you can consider yourself lucky I dont do so.

[Ebell914]

Originally Posted by TypeA

He has never left a coiled pile on the lawn for the next time someone mows, or chased off wildlife by hunting game.

Right there shows you know nothing about cats. Cats will NEVER leave evidence of their poop. You must have a dog leaving that.

Most cities have leash laws - yes, even for cats. You should contact animal control and let them handle it.

[TypeA]

Originally Posted by Ebell914

You should contact animal control and let them handle it.

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy. Besides, animal owner irresponsibly is such an epidemic that calling someone is unlikely to be effective. I have tried everything and spent many hours of my free time attempting to protect myself from irresponsible pet owners. The only thing I have found that truly works is my original suggestion.

[Ebell914]

Originally Posted by TypeA

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy. Besides, animal owner irresponsibly is such an epidemic that calling someone is unlikely to be effective. I have tried everything and spent many hours of my free time attempting to protect myself from irresponsible pet owners. The only thing I have found that truly works is my original suggestion.

That says it all. You are 'protecting' yourself from a cat that knows no better by harming it with a BB gun? Wow.

[JayG]

Originally Posted by TypeA

Im sure theyre the pride of the neighborhood.

Ive had it happen to me. So yeah we disagree. A cat can easily scratch paint, especially with dirty paws.

I own a cat too, have for many years. But heres the catch: MY cat has never trespassed or dug up someones flowerbed. He has never left a coiled pile on the lawn for the next time someone mows, or chased off wildlife by hunting game. Why? Because I am an urban dweller who posses the intelligence and maturity to keep my cat indoors! It is owners (and those who support them) who are "cruel and stupid" for letting their animals roam free and violate other's rights. Want an outdoor cat? Buy yourself a plot of land where I wont catch your cat on my Porsche. Cause otherwise, if Im your neighbor, your cat violating my rights makes him free game sir. I dont have the time to trap and take him to the pound but you can consider yourself lucky I dont do so.

Chase off wildlife? I have never heard of a house cat hunting wild game! A mouse or rat maybe, even a bird, but wild game, that almost funny. What wildlife do you have Urban Dweller?

If you have a cat, then you would know that cats don't leave a coiled pile on a lawn, they bury their poop

If you did in fact posses intelligence or any maturity, you would NEVER propose harming someone pet.

If it was your neighbors kid that dared "trespass" would you advocate shooting or shocking them?

you better be careful or karma will cause some raw eggs to land on your car (probably from the neighbor whose cat you injured or killed), hopefully when you are away for a few days and it can then really eat into the paint.

BTW, intentionally causing harm to a animal is a crime and a felony in some states

I am confused, I thought Portland had good caring people, obviously I was wrong

[TypeA]

Originally Posted by JayG

Chase off wildlife? I have never heard of a house cat hunting wild game! A mouse or rat maybe, even a bird, but wild game, that almost funny. What wildlife do you have Urban Dweller?

Semantics. Is that the best you got? Any non domesticated animal is game. In my yard its birds, squirrels, chipmunks, and when I was in Florida, turtles. Hell, even my own domesticated pets deserve protection if in MY yard.

BTW, cats will not always bury their poop. They will sometimes just go in the grass. Again, we disagree on the whole "always" phrases you are throwing around.

[JayG]

Originally Posted by TypeA

Semantics. Is that the best you got? Any non domesticated animal is game. In my yard its birds, squirrels, chipmunks, and when I was in Florida, turtles. Hell, even my own domesticated pets deserve protection if in MY yard.

BTW, cats will not always bury their poop. They will sometimes just go in the grass. Again, we disagree on the whole "always" phrases you are throwing around.

I'm done.
I have better things to do than deal with someone like you
Have a nice life and karma is a b_tch

[Ebell914]

Originally Posted by TypeA

In my yard its birds, squirrels, chipmunks, and when I was in Florida, turtles. Hell, even my own domesticated pets deserve protection if in MY yard.

BTW, cats will not always bury their poop. They will sometimes just go in the grass. Again, we disagree on the whole "always" phrases you are throwing around.

OK, TypeA, I am confused...you actual want chipmunks and squirrels? Maybe it is their paw prints on your car But I must throw an ALWAYS out there....cats ALWAYS bury their poop, unless they are caged and have no where to bury it. And also - they do not just go out in the open, like in the middle of a lawn. You clearly do not understand cat psychology. They are very self conscious animals - they are like women - they never fart in public :dance:

[TypeA]

Originally Posted by JayG

BTW, intentionally causing harm to a animal is a crime and a felony in some states

BTW, "leash laws" are in effect for MOST major cities these days and many cities have ordinances for felines also. Some cities charge big bucks to get your pet out of jail.

[Timco]

Originally Posted by JayG

Chase off wildlife? I have never heard of a house cat hunting wild game! A mouse or rat maybe, even a bird, but wild game, that almost funny. What wildlife do you have Urban Dweller?

If you have a cat, then you would know that cats don't leave a coiled pile on a lawn, they bury their poop

If you did in fact posses intelligence or any maturity, you would NEVER propose harming someone pet.

If it was your neighbors kid that dared "trespass" would you advocate shooting or shocking them?

you better be careful or karma will cause some raw eggs to land on your car (probably from the neighbor whose cat you injured or killed), hopefully when you are away for a few days and it can then really eat into the paint.

BTW, intentionally causing harm to a animal is a crime and a felony in some states

I am confused, I thought Portland had good caring people, obviously I was wrong

Yes, cats chase off my birds I feed.

Yes, cats stalk my chickens.

Yes, cats don't leave it on the lawn. They dig up your flower beds.

Outdoor cats and their careless owners suck. If I don't want it on my property, why is it all my bad??

[JayG]

Originally Posted by Timco

Yes, cats chase off my birds I feed.

Yes, cats stalk my chickens.

Yes, cats don't leave it on the lawn. They dig up your flower beds.

Outdoor cats and their careless owners suck. If I don't want it on my property, why is it all my bad??

You don't have a problem with the birds pooping on the paint and top? I don't hear anyone advocating shooting, trapping or otherwise messing with birds.

Cats don't randomly dig up a garden (dogs will), they are just burying their poop. You should thank the cat for fertilizing your garden.

[Pirate50]

Originally Posted by TypeA

Im sure theyre the pride of the neighborhood.

Ive had it happen to me. So yeah we disagree. A cat can easily scratch paint, especially with dirty paws.

I own a cat too, have for many years. But heres the catch: MY cat has never trespassed or dug up someones flowerbed. He has never left a coiled pile on the lawn for the next time someone mows, or chased off wildlife by hunting game. Why? Because I am an urban dweller who posses the intelligence and maturity to keep my cat indoors! It is owners (and those who support them) who are "cruel and stupid" for letting their animals roam free and violate other's rights. Want an outdoor cat? Buy yourself a plot of land where I wont catch your cat on my Porsche. Cause otherwise, if Im your neighbor, your cat violating my rights makes him free game sir. I dont have the time to trap and take him to the pound but you can consider yourself lucky I dont do so.

Wow, don't really fit the mindset of most Portlanders do you? I also try to keep the cat inside for various reasons, but if he got out and someone did something to him for crapping in their yard or climbing on their car, they would have far more to worry about than crap in their yard or dirty footprints on their car, if you get my drift.

[Timco]

Originally Posted by Pirate50

Wow, don't really fit the mindset of most Portlanders do you? I also try to keep the cat inside for various reasons, but if he got out and someone did something to him for crapping in their yard or climbing on their car, they would have far more to worry about than crap in their yard or dirty footprints on their car, if you get my drift.

If your cat ends up in my yard, and those things happen, I would not worry about you. It would just be gone....or would not come back to my yard.

[tonichristi]

Originally Posted by Timco

If your cat ends up in my yard, and those things happen, I would not worry about you. It would just be gone....or would not come back to my yard.

I know a great place for you to get that vasectomy. Please do, for the sake of the rest of us.

Rapists and serial killers often exhibit signs of violence against animals first.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by TypeA

I own a cat too, have for many years. But heres the catch: MY cat has never trespassed or dug up someones flowerbed. He has never left a coiled pile on the lawn for the next time someone mows, or chased off wildlife by hunting game. Why? Because I am an urban dweller who posses the intelligence and maturity to keep my cat indoors! It is owners (and those who support them) who are "cruel and stupid" for letting their animals roam free and violate other's rights. Want an outdoor cat? Buy yourself a plot of land where I wont catch your cat on my Porsche. Cause otherwise, if Im your neighbor, your cat violating my rights makes him free game sir. I dont have the time to trap and take him to the pound but you can consider yourself lucky I dont do so.

The DNA of a cat is not to be tied down to the four walls of a man-made structure. It's DNA is to go outside and hunt for prey, just like its big cousins the tiger, panther, mountain lion, cheetah,etc.
Keeping a cat indoors its whole life makes about as much sense as putting a 25,000 pound killer whale in a swimming pool. Or a bald eagle in cage. At least let these animals some free time in actual nature. It's not their fault that mankind decided that they should be kept indoors for man's personal amusement!

Secondly, cats and birds and possums and squirrels were part of the suburban landscape before you ever arrived with your award-winning flower bed. You knew that going in. Most likely there are no laws that indicate that you have the right to live in a suburban setting free of the aforementioned creatures, so I'm not sure how you discern that your rights are being violated. And I'm sure there aren't any laws that say cat owners can't let their cats outside or that they must be on a leash like with dogs. Are you going to take a sling shot to all the birds that poop from overhead for deliberately violating your right to a shiny Porsche? Seems like a big stretch to mention 'rights' in this context. If you want to hermetically separate your man-made Porsche from the natural enviorment of a suburb, then the best course of action would be to park in a garage. Sounds better than your suggestion of using a pellet gun, certainly involves less pain and drama.

Originally Posted by Pirate50

Wow, don't really fit the mindset of most Portlanders do you? I also try to keep the cat inside for various reasons, but if he got out and someone did something to him for crapping in their yard or climbing on their car, they would have far more to worry about than crap in their yard or dirty footprints on their car, if you get my drift.

I have a neighbohr that walks his cat on a leash just like a dog. This person must have the patience of Job to pulled off that training.

[Mark_T]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

And I'm sure there aren't any laws that say cat owners can't let their cats outside or that they must be on a leash like with dogs.

Actually, in this city, that is the law. Cats are not allowed to run loose. If you have problem cats (problem owners actually) in your area you can borrow a live trap from animal control, trap the cat, and turn it in. The owner then has to pay big bucks to get his damn cat back.

Where this becomes an issue is that the animal control office is about a 40 minute drive for me, whereas the river is only a couple of blocks away. I wouldn't make that 40 minute drive twice for the same cat.

It's interesting that, since the implementation of the cat law, the inner-city bunny population has increased dramatically. Personally, I'd rather have the bunnies. Bunnies don't crap in my grandkid's sandbox.

[TypeA]

Originally Posted by Pirate50

Wow, don't really fit the mindset of most Portlanders do you? I also try to keep the cat inside for various reasons, but if he got out and someone did something to him for crapping in their yard or climbing on their car, they would have far more to worry about than crap in their yard or dirty footprints on their car, if you get my drift.

Yeah thats just it, I always give them a friendly warning first. But almost without fail you chase them off verbally and they come back eventually. Once I start to recognize the same cat, that is having to scale my fence to get in, well then clearly they havent gotten the hint and more stringent measures are called for. I dont poison, abandon, allow my dog to attack or shoot to maim but I will always get the point across with a mild BB shot to the rump (we're talking a weak gun from 50' here). If I was of the mindset of most Portlanders I wouldnt be making a point to keep my own cat indoors. Seems to me if your indoor cat gets out it getting run over by a car would be far more of a concern than what someone might do to him for crapping in their flower bed.