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particlewave 03-08-2014 04:52 PM

Need opinions - Painted Headlight
 
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I'm thinking of offering this as a part of my headlight retrofit service.
I have this spare headlight that I like to experiment with and have always wondered what it would look like with the inner shroud painted to match the car color. This is just some off the shelf gloss white to get the idea, but I do have Glacier White matched paint for any final drafts.
I would also install Nine8Six's projectors and probably use my clear set if I built these.

I'm going to experiment with methods of removing the silver eyeliner so I can try painting it to match as well and will post pics.

Good? Bad? Tacky? Just Don't do it!?

Tucker2 03-08-2014 04:59 PM

Oh my gosh....that is AWESOME in white. Two thumbs way way up. Very sexy stuff. Well done.

Lobo1186 03-08-2014 05:00 PM

I like it. Might look good in black too... (with your current color scheme)

eicheldp 03-08-2014 07:48 PM

This looks great in white! If you could somehow paint the chrome trim, it could make the headlight "disappear"

Timco 03-08-2014 09:31 PM

http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2c69712d.jpg

particlewave 03-08-2014 09:41 PM

I thought it looked really cool, but wasn't sure if it was just the paint fumes :confused:
I need to find a way to remove the silver paint from the perimeter without damaging the clear plastic so that I can paint it, too. I've read that brake fluid works. There's one way to find out. ;)

I'll work on that silver paint and report back.
I think it's what this is trying to achieve, but actually looks good and fits the car instead of being tacked on.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...AD968165_1.jpg

j.fro 03-08-2014 09:42 PM

+1 looks great.

rick3000 03-08-2014 09:43 PM

I have never been a fan of amber on white Boxster's, but I think it would look great on clears with the light modification, especially if you could also paint the silver edge to match. You might also consider all black which I think would look really slick with those rims, top, and side stripes. :cheers:

particlewave 03-08-2014 10:02 PM

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Thanks ;)

I have the all black look now, but have a second set of amber headlights that I want to do this with and install custom projectors, possibly also painted to match.

particlewave 03-08-2014 10:04 PM

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This is the look I am after.

BRAN 03-09-2014 12:40 AM

Looks very good, but keep the silver eyeliner.
--> A woman without eyebrows = no go ;)

Barteur 03-09-2014 01:34 AM

I like both I think in the end its to choose between originality and a more standard refresh look. The nice thing is that you already have the headlights so you could swap them from time to time.

Lobo1186 03-09-2014 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 390246)
This is the look I am after.

you may need some orange paint... But ya it looks good. what is the deal with your litronic headlights. they look different.

Troy.Boxster 03-09-2014 07:55 AM

I love that look! As for the perimeter, I think it would look cool white and the gaps would provide a nice, subtle, outline. I thought that maybe even a black perimeter, to match your other accents, would look cool, but after doing a quick touch-up to your picture, no... just, no... way too much thick black on the front.

BruceH 03-09-2014 08:30 AM

Looks great! I think the silver outline should stay. Will the paint hold up to the heat if parked in the sun?

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Originally Posted by Lobo1186 (Post 390262)
you may need some orange paint... But ya it looks good. what is the deal with your litronic headlights. they look different.

His projectors are custom from the "Porsche Headlight Retrofit [from CAD, prototyping to finish)" thread.

particlewave 03-09-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BruceH (Post 390283)
Looks great! I think the silver outline should stay. Will the paint hold up to the heat if parked in the sun?
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The paint that I'll be using is OEM Glacier White and clear coat, so I sure hope so! :eek: :p

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Originally Posted by Lobo1186 (Post 390262)
you may need some orange paint... But ya it looks good. what is the deal with your litronic headlights. they look different.

Lit what? Like Bruce said, these are custom made. The projectors are made by Nine8Six (See here...) and I use them to build these headlights for 986 and 996 owners ;)

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...A2D2AF530E.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...9963782E3D.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...F42DBDDDB0.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...000000009B.jpg

Perfectlap 03-09-2014 09:22 AM

I think it looks too 1990's to be fully monochromatic. I could see doing something that will play better with the white than going with the full contrast of black, like maybe pearlescent or mettalic finish with a greyish/bluish hue, like when you look into an HID bulb. Or like a Tintanium color coupled with a gun metal projector.

p.s.
I definitely want to be one of your customers! On a sliver car, the black look totally changes the whole design of the front end.

particlewave 03-09-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Troy.Boxster (Post 390279)
I love that look! As for the perimeter, I think it would look cool white and the gaps would provide a nice, subtle, outline. I thought that maybe even a black perimeter, to match your other accents, would look cool, but after doing a quick touch-up to your picture, no... just, no... way too much thick black on the front.

I wondered if you were ever going to post :D
Yeah, I'm thinking that the thin lines created by the headlight/car gasket and the headlight/housing seal will create enough "eyeliner", but we shall see. You've also got to try to picture them with much more modern looking projectors ;)



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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 390288)
I think it looks too 1990's to be fully monochromatic.

That's kind of what I thought, but I have 2 sets, so I'll probably keep playing with this spare headlight until I find something I like ;)

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p.s.
I definitely want to be one of your customers! On a sliver car, the black look totally changes the whole design of the front end.
Any time, buddy :)
Spring is just around the corner and with shipping time both ways, most retrofits are taking 6-8 days.

Perfectlap 03-09-2014 10:19 AM

I still have a set of the halogens so maybe I'll do those as well. Your mod definitely increases their value.

So you can do this mod with Litronics too and not just the pumpkins?

rfuerst911sc 03-09-2014 11:14 AM

Does the paint color have any affect on the lights performance ? Or is it strictly cosmetic ? I'm trying to figure out what to do on my arctic silver car.

particlewave 03-09-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 390294)
I still have a set of the halogens so maybe I'll do those as well. Your mod definitely increases their value.

So you can do this mod with Litronics too and not just the pumpkins?

I've never had a request to do litronics, so I honestly don't know.


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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 390297)
Does the paint color have any affect on the lights performance ? Or is it strictly cosmetic ? I'm trying to figure out what to do on my arctic silver car.

It's strictly cosmetic. Since yours is already silver, the liner would already be nice and subtle ;)
That would be interesting to see.

particlewave 03-11-2014 08:08 PM

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While my photoshop skills are less than great, I'm not sure I like either of these options. I was planning on going with a white bezel, but it may be too much.

Tucker2 03-11-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 390645)
While my photoshop skills are less than great, I'm not sure I like either of these options. I was planning on going with a white bezel, but it may be too much.

Yes...agree too much. Skip the white bezel. Fantastic other than that.

Lobo1186 03-12-2014 03:20 AM

If I had the skill and time I would see if there was a decently easy way to get rid of all the extra headlight and make a fender/headlight assembly that was just the oval from the headlights. without all the extra foglight and junk.

jb92563 03-12-2014 06:33 AM

I like the dark black lights best as it looks more dramatic and interesting to me.

The white takes away the focus on the lights and makes it look a bit too plastic and uninteresting. Its like having an albino car.

The dark lights are like a girls eyes with makeup, more interesting and sexy.

The oval light masks make it look like another cars headlights, Jag or Mercedes?
I like that Porsches lights are very distinctive and different than the rest.

Thats just my opinion so if you like it more power to you, the workmanship and creativity is awesome in any case and I applaud that you are exploring and pushing boundaries...kudos! ;)

jb92563 03-12-2014 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lobo1186 (Post 390669)
If I had the skill and time I would see if there was a decently easy way to get rid of all the extra headlight and make a fender/headlight assembly that was just the oval from the headlights. without all the extra foglight and junk.

You mean Frog eyes slant nose style?

That would be interesting, we need a photoshop mockup of that.

Nine8Six 03-12-2014 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 390645)
While my photoshop skills are less than great, I'm not sure I like either of these options. I was planning on going with a white bezel, but it may be too much.

Option 1: Full white interior with "black" bezels
Option 2: Full black interior with "white" bezels

I kinda like the idea & the look of the full white interior Charles. Looks clean, modern. Double thumbs up mate

particlewave 03-12-2014 08:51 AM

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Thanks for the opinions. I'm sticking with black for now, but it was a fun experiment and now I have pictures if someone down the line wants to know what it looks like to have the inner shroud painted to match the car ;)

Now...I need to order some new projectors because I cannot be the official installer for these whilst running the Mk1 projectors. Must be up to date :)

Here are some different color options that I'm toying with. I like the white bezel on black headlights, but I kind of like them all.
Blue is quite nice on white :cool:
Unfortunately, both blue and red would require new caliper paint and I'm not looking forward to doing that again any time soon. That, and I really like my green calipers. So torn...

Edit: I think on a white car and with the overall monochromatic look, my only real options are neutral colors; black, silver, white, and maybe gunmetal.

BruceH 03-12-2014 09:27 AM

I think the painted enclosure is too much on a white car because of the comparative darkness on the turn signal. It just didn't look "right" to me. Might look better with the amber lights. I think the black looks best. I do like the white bezel with the black, and I agree you should probably stick to white or silver.

Perfectlap 03-12-2014 11:06 AM

how about only the oval part white. The rest in black. Sorta 997'ish. With smoked side markers..

http://986forum.com/forums/attachmen...mall-white.jpg

BruceH 03-12-2014 12:38 PM

Just the oval part would probably look better.

WillH 02-02-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 390195)
I'm going to experiment with methods of removing the silver eyeliner so I can try painting it to match as well and will post pics.

Good? Bad? Tacky? Just Don't do it!?

Any luck removing the eyeliner? Would like to black out the lights but don't want to be stuck with the silver eyeliner.

Thanks,
Will

particlewave 02-02-2015 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WillH (Post 434340)
Any luck removing the eyeliner? Would like to black out the lights but don't want to be stuck with the silver eyeliner.

Thanks,
Will

I haven't actually tackled a whole headlight yet, but brake fluid seems to work well. ;)

rdass623 02-02-2015 08:44 PM

painting the headlight interiors really looks great. with the body color match the lights seem to blend in well, and the headlights appear much smaller. if the silver rings were covered in the body color, the lights would all but disappear... good work

WillH 02-03-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 434409)
I haven't actually tackled a whole headlight yet, but brake fluid seems to work well. ;)

Have you had success using brake fluid on a portion of the liner on one of your scrap pieces? Brush it on, let it sit, brush it out? It looks to be textured as well. Can that be removed or best not? Acetone too strong?

Sorry for all the questions, I haven't opened one up yet, don't know what I'm getting into, and don't want to scrap the lights...

I like the looks of those LED headlights without the eyeliner on EBay and Amazon, just not the price, apparent fitment, or quality problems I've read about.

You should make it an option for your retrofit.

Nine8Six 02-03-2015 05:19 PM

Will - can't comment on the brake fluid, haven't done it.

We managed to get the silver lip removed with sand blasting it at low psi. You just need to cover the lens with plastic wrap (by Saran). Easy to clean, just air blast the unit when completed.

Came out with a sweet satin finish < you want that otherwise it's see-through :/

WillH 02-04-2015 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 434578)
Will - can't comment on the brake fluid, haven't done it.

We managed to get the silver lip removed with sand blasting it at low psi. You just need to cover the lens with plastic wrap (by Saran). Easy to clean, just air blast the unit when completed.

Came out with a sweet satin finish < you want that otherwise it's see-through :/

Great :cheers:
Thanks for the info. It's now on my project list.:)

jbryshun 09-14-2016 03:50 PM

Sand blasting the eyeliner off worked? Has anyone tried the brake fluid or acetone? What about sanding off?

I want to black out headlights but also want to do this when I do the interior. I think it would look great like that on black car.

WillH 09-14-2016 04:49 PM

Feel free to try blasting, but I had no luck getting the final bits of silver out of the corrugated backing where it meets the lip that fits into headlight case. The other issue I had was static and blowing clean the inevitable blasting media that gets past the masking material. Sanding was a no go in the same area. Perhaps with more patience and a willingness to remove the corrugation and a section of the lip to get to the very last points of silver that can be seen from the exterior.

Ended up painting the exterior shell to get rid of the eyeliner. Epoxy black was a good match to the factory black paint but fades in sun. Will redo this winter,(paint and polish), then seal with 2k clear.

JBauer 09-27-2017 12:24 PM

Gotta quit trolling the old threads. Gives me ideas ��

Now somehow I deleted my pic. Well it's up there ��


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